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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_10_0_beta_available

NetBSD 10.0 BETA available

December 20, 2022 posted by Nia Alarie

After nearly 3 whole years of development (work started on NetBSD 10 in late 2019), BETA snapshots have finally been published for interested users to test. More changes will be backported from the development branch over the next few months before we tag a final release, so the BETA images will keep getting updated.

What to expect
While NetBSD 10.0 is expected to be a major milestone on performance, especially on multi-core systems, currently the BETA builds have some extra kernel diagnostics enabled that may reduce performance somewhat.

Among the features you can expect to find in NetBSD 10 are reworked cryptography, including compatibility with WireGuardⓇ, automatic swap encryption, new disk encryption methods, and CPU acceleration in the kernel. In hardware support, there are updated GPU drivers from Linux 5.6, support for more ARM hardware (including Rockchip RK356X, NXP i.MX 8M, Amlogic G12¸ Apple M1, and Raspberry Pi 4), support for new security features found in the latest ARM CPUs, and support for Realtek 2.5 gigabit and new Intel 10/25/40 gigabit ethernet adapters. compat_linux has been ported to AArch64 and DTrace has been ported to MIPS. For retrocomputing enthusiasts, there's improved multiprocessor support on Alpha, and more iMac G5 support. The Xen hypervisor support has received a major rework. There are various new userspace programs, including blkdiscard(8) to manually TRIM a disk, aiomixer(1) to control audio volume, realpath(1), and fsck_udf(8). And loads more...

There are many little details that might be relevant to admins when upgrading from NetBSD 9, so wait and read the final release announcement before you upgrade any production systems. Please note that networking setups using tap(4) as a bridge endpoint must be modified to use vether(4) instead, and compat_linux is no longer built into the kernel for security reasons (load it as a module instead). DisplayPort and HDMI audio is now enabled in the default x86 kernel, so you might need to change the default audio device with audiocfg(1) if you're not getting any sound output. blacklistd(8) was renamed to blocklistd(8).

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I’m excited to install this on my retro PC and play around with it for a couple of hours before I get bored

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

NetBSD more like Not B installing

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

- - - 8< - - -

goldmine

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
I can never remember if NetBSD is the "run on anything" or the "security focused" one (OpenBSD). I have to remember they're the opposite of what I'd expect. Maybe they should switch names

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

improved multiprocessor alpha support, gently caress yes :pcgaming:

HamAdams
Jun 29, 2018

yospos
2023 is the year of BSD on the desktop

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

nyetBSD

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

FalseNegative
Jul 24, 2007

2>/dev/null

Hed posted:

nyetBSD

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
I thought he(?) left yospos

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

HamAdams posted:

2023 is the year of BSD on the desktop

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Hed posted:

nyetBSD

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

I thought he(?) left yospos

they live on in our hearts

my homie dhall
Dec 9, 2010

honey, oh please, it's just a machine
2023 is the year of bsd on the anything

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

i installed freebsd last year for some work bs for a minute :)

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
if you're gonna go unix you might as well go bsd

its like linux, but without the schizophrenia

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
or the popularity :cry:

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


post hole digger posted:

NetBSD more like Not B installing

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

my homie dhall posted:

2023 is the year of bsd on the anything

SDF has been running NetBSD in production since 2001

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Hed posted:

nyetBSD

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

is this a linux op

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

neat, netbsd is my favourite bsd

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

git apologist posted:

is this a linux op

it’s worse

matti
Mar 31, 2019

OldAlias posted:

neat, netbsd is my favourite bsd

HamAdams
Jun 29, 2018

yospos

OldAlias posted:

neat, netbsd is my favourite bsd

pretty neatBSD

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band
way too much bsd hate in here

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I haven’t touched my SDF account in months. NetBSD coffee mug is still going strong though.

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
nutbsd

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Silver Alicorn posted:

I haven’t touched my SDF account in months. NetBSD coffee mug is still going strong though.

nice. i have a netbsd hat I wear. well, when it’s not winter

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

bsd is for people who stopped using linux because it got too popular

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Sweevo posted:

bsd is for people who stopped using linux because it got too popular

would you say its for freaking hipsters?

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Sweevo posted:

bsd is for people who stopped using linux because it got too popular

and netbsd is for people who feel freebsd is just a bit too mainstream

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


and it's still sucking

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
Finally I can wipe linux off my iMac G5 and replace it with BSD.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

and netbsd is for people who feel freebsd is just a bit too mainstream

that’s openbsd. netbsd is for people whose massive collection of ancient computers likely qualifies as clinical hoarding

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



openbsd is for people who think security is more important than performance. netbsd is for people who don't give a poo poo about performance or security, they just want something to boot on their VAX

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
what's the oldest hardware you could ipl netbsd on

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