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You guys remember less than a page ago when we were talking about Rome's unique ability to absorb battlefield losses seemingly endlessly, and how their greatest enemy always seem to collapse them in times of relative stability when the rot sets in internally? Maybe we should take some time to, you know, consolidate our gains and give the Romans a chance to shoot themselves in the foot a little?
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What an absolute clusterfuck that was, jeez. Fifty years, who knows how much of our treasure, and a dead Hannibal, all to end up where we started. Thank God Gisco Gisco pulled our asses out of the fire here with a bum rush at Rome. All hail Gisco Gisco, the Sophet so nice they named him twice!
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Dec 30, 2022 20:56
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Pacho posted:Cunningly Brutal or Brutally Cunning? That's our Gisco Gisco Centuries from now, whenever anyone does anything bold and audacious and ballsy, people are gonna say, "check out the Giscos on this guy!" You know, assuming we don't get delenda est'ed off the face of the earth before then
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Jan 1, 2023 00:25
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:once we get this "rome" situation under control, im feeling a couple expeditions to india, maybe control the routes to it and get everyone to worship Ba'al on the way Frankly we should aim that direction even earlier, that area from the Black Sea down to the Levant I have a good feeling about finding allies that'll freak out Rome quite a bit in the future. It's a good place to talent scout
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Jan 3, 2023 02:39
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hashashash posted:depending on the votes, maybe - or they might become a diaspora like OTL, or maybe we'll end up with Jews in India or the Steppe Oh like hell we're gonna let some inbred Ptolemies own the lands of our forefathers! Put them on the List right under the barbarian upstart Romans.
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Jan 3, 2023 18:36
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God, all of Numidia is gonna be on our loving payroll from all the mercs we're gonna have to hire
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Jan 3, 2023 21:30
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Just gotta Zerg Rush Rome in a decapitation strike. ...hey, it worked once!
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Jan 4, 2023 02:26
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Fuckin' finally, Roma Delenda Est
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Jan 8, 2023 21:27
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Next stop: the Levant 
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Jan 9, 2023 00:55
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I feel like we need a : hist99 : emote to rub it in. Given the multiple Paradox alternate history LPs in this forum's history, it's amazing one wasn't commissioned years ago. Not to mention all the times people just throw out bullshit fake history facts trying to sound authoritative!
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Jan 9, 2023 03:56
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megane posted:
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Jan 9, 2023 04:48
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sic transit Gloria Estefan
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In an interesting bit of synchronicity, today's Featured Article on Wikipedia is... the Third Punic War! 
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Jan 9, 2023 15:05
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B is a waste of time, the Barcas can use their expertise securing the western frontier and Iberia from the various petty kingdoms rather than chasing ghosts. I feel Rome will have quite enough on their table as the northern barbarians nip at their heels seeking their own generational vengeance. A is... honestly the most pragmatic choice, as we're now the predominant power in the Mediterranean and should act as a proper economic hegemon. However! There is something more important than money, more important than conquest. There is pride. We have finally vanquished our ancient enemy, now let us secure our glory by reclaiming our ancient homeland from whence came Queen Dido all those centuries ago. I Vote Option C. Let us back House Gisco in one last great endeavor. Where once Qart Hadasht was a colony of Tyre, now let Tyre be a colony of Qart Hadasht!
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Jan 10, 2023 21:38
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Pacho posted:We are going on an Adventure! ...this is a decent point. I DID vote for C, and I stick by it, but we have a better navy than Rome ever did, which means we can spread Carthaginian culture farther than Rome's empire ever could. This is an... intruiging prospect.
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Jan 11, 2023 23:53
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Good job guys, we let Jesus be born. If we'd expanded east like I'd wanted, we could have spawn-camped him and prevented the rise of Christianity, but noooOOooooo! Ah well, maybe it's for the best we don't have to be responsible for that shitshow over in Canaan. It's Ptolemy's problem now.
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Jan 15, 2023 22:53
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Christianity is gonna be real fuckin weird in this timeline. My guess is some syncretism with Serapis and the cult of Alexander instead of Sol Invictus, and likely becoming the new de facto state sponsored cult of Ptolemaic Egypt. Lord knows they have enough underclasses that the Christian message would appeal to. Plus all the deviation from however the Ptolemies are treating Canaan compared to the Romans. Do they even crucify people there? Frankly it might be a boon to us, as someone upthread said. The Semitic population and their new messianic cult might have more common ground with us than all the Hellenized empires that have been fighting over the place for the last two hundred years.
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Jan 16, 2023 19:08
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Circumcellions rise up as the dominant Christian denomination of the Eastern Mediterranean. This will make diplomacy rather annoying, as they'll keep trying to be aggravating enough in every interaction that we're forced to violently martyr them
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Jan 17, 2023 02:46
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Well, poo poo. It seems that in usurping Rome's throne, we will now have to contend with Rome's enemies. And enemies that Rome had never dreamed of, besides.
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Jan 21, 2023 05:16
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CBA, let's musical chairs this bitch
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Jan 23, 2023 17:44
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Jan 23, 2023 21:19
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Tag Team Messiahmania, Jesus and Zoroaster vs Alexander and Serapis
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Jan 24, 2023 02:40
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C, A, Autolalia
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habeasdorkus posted:A, E, wherever Mecca is located. I think it's in Harbia?
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Jan 24, 2023 22:37
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Yes, soon Autolalia will come to dominate the West African coast! Why Autolalia? Well, it speaks for itself, really. 
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As I'm given to understand, African elephants are generally bigger, but basically impossible to train compared to somewhat more amenable Indian elephants e: not sure how this compares to whatever extinct North African elephants Carthage had, though
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Feb 10, 2023 02:56
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Giscos stay winning
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hashashash posted:
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tunapirate posted:Yikes -- yikes !!! It's not gonna be THAT great of a holy war, let's be honest. Caliphate's gonna roll into Phoenicia with Mechwarriors and poo poo while we're still impressed by, like, boats you don't need slaves to row.
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Rooting for Numidia myself. Upholding that Old Time Religion, none of this Abrahamic hocus pocus
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Rejected Fate posted:They gonna make many a historic drama about Gerbaal. gently caress, it's like Carcinization but for nation-states, it all eventually degenerates into a Rome
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Jul 20, 2023 17:29
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I'm a bit curious about Hausaland and Sao, those bits in sub-Saharan Africa that seem to be the last bastion of the old Canaanite religion. Bit of a living fossil, there.
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ZiegeDame posted:Voting A, but at least one of the native empires should have assimilated a Carthage as part of their founding myth. "Lost Punic colony as local Tula/Teotihuacan equivalent mythic god-ancestor city" could work, sure. A, with maybe a dash of B is my vote.
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On this day, February 5, representatives of Rome and Carthage signed the peace treaty that officially ended the Third Punic War. This event occurred in 1985. The treaty was, admittedly, largely a symbolic gesture by that point.
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