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The Avalanche desperately need to move Girard for a Top 6 forward. But the more he plays the more obvious it is that absolutely no one should give up a Top 6 forward to acquire him.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2023 19:55 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 14:28 |
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ThinkTank posted:I still think of him as a top quality defensive defenceman. Has he fallen off that much since he was hurt? I was pretty done with him last year, but this year has manged to be worse, and he's got 4 more years at $5 million per. The Canucks would be getting fleeced in a Horvat-Girard trade, even with no extension.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2023 20:20 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Yeah it's too early to say he's bust, but it is correct to note that at this point in his career he hasn't looked like much at the NHL level. From what I've seen of him he's stuck in kind of a weird limbo. He's clearly too good for the AHL, but his NHL development keeps getting set back by COVID, or injuries, or just other random bad luck.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2023 17:09 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Also, I know Colorado is banged up, but things are looking pretty bad for them. Are they going to miss the playoffs? They've got games in hand but they're 4 points out of the last wild card, and 7 points behind Minnesota for the third division spot. If any team is capable of a second half surge it's probably them, just seems pretty bleak right now. For all the talk about the Blackhawks, or the Flyers, or the Coyotes, or the Canucks being dogshit garbage the Avalanche are pretty consistently finding ways to lose to those teams. With both Landeskog and Nichushkin out the Power Play is absolutely toothless. They needed to make a trade for some serious forward help like 10 games ago, but the Avs seem weirdly intent on shuttling guys back and forth from the AHL.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2023 05:19 |
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Colorado has a 3 game northwestern trip that I think will be pretty telling if they are in trouble, or the rest of the west is in trouble. Nichushkin was back Monday, and Manson may be back on this trip.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2023 20:20 |
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The long and short of it with Colorado is injuries, especially among the top 6 forwards. Even without Landeskog they're the best team in the west. Missing two guys they're still a playoff team. The problem this year is they've been fielding lineups like: Compher - Newhook - Rantanen A bunch of AHL guys If you're in the west and haven't put any daylight from this team you should be concerned, or just hope that they continue to stay injured.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2023 23:23 |
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Jhet posted:I do think Colorado can slide into one of the wild card spots. I don't think they catch the top 3 in the central without some injury issues showing up in those teams. With 3-4 games in hand over Calgary and Edmonton they can push into the picture when the pieces start getting healthy. I don't know that they'll be flying as well as they did the 2nd half of last season because of the injury problems, but I don't count them out. It makes me wonder just how much of a toll it took last year to win and if they didn't get quite as much rest as they really needed. Colorado is 5-2-1 when they are only missing Landeskog, and 13-8 when they are only missing two guys out of their Top 6. It's a pretty big if and when, but if and when they get healthy they are going to be fine.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2023 02:18 |
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Does Vancouver have any big guys with no discernible skill set who take a bunch of dumb penalties? If not I don't know if Minnesota would be willing to trade.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2023 21:19 |
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Ginette Reno posted:How did nobody on the Oilers kill Maroon for this Because the NHL rules are crafted to harshly punish anyone who would try, but wont do anything to punish jackasses taking cheap shots against star players.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2023 07:17 |
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fermun posted:It is completely absurd that Arizona traded away Conor Timmins for an AHL player. At least when the Avs traded him away they got what became their cup-winning goalie in return and that's a trade any GM would make, but what the hell was Arizona thinking
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2023 02:20 |
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I'm not going to lie. I'm finding all the wailing and gnashing of the teeth for legendary Canucks coach Bruce Boudreau pretty hilarious.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2023 17:30 |
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I can't speak for Tocchet's time in Tampa Bay, but he was fine in Arizona. His style of play is boring as poo poo, but they were physical and defended hard.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2023 01:36 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Not exactly the style of play you want to build a team with Elias Petersson and Quinn Hughes around
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2023 18:36 |
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ThinkTank posted:If it wasn't for Eddie Shore sports wouldn't have the proud traditions of All-Star games or retired numbers, so you can thank him for that. Piss on old time hockey.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2023 17:49 |
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The trapezoid is practically the Martin Brodeur rule, and practically every goalie for several generations emulated Patrick Roy's style. Those two things should probably be taken into consideration.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2023 19:55 |
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The Avalanche win 6 straight. Then they lose a top 6 forward and immediately drop one to the freaking Ducks.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2023 05:42 |
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fermun posted:Well if they are together roughly as good as Andrew Cogliano, JT Compher, and Logan O'Connor, then that's something I think O'Connor is on like a 30 game goalless steak. He can definitely play on the kid line.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2023 18:39 |
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Esa Tikkanen is probably the GOAT chirper. Mostly because he talked in some weird half-Finnish, half-English that nobody understood what he was saying, only that he was talking poo poo.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2023 19:30 |
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I don't know how the NHL has managed to make the Breakaway Challenge worse than the NBA Slam Dunk competition, but here we are. Both of them seem so simple in concept that they should be impossible to gently caress up.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2023 07:43 |
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What exquisite timing for this conversation as Jeff Carter delivers a cheap shot to Cale Makar's head and knocks him out of the game.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 03:12 |
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Last night's Pittsburgh-Colorado game had the feel of two coaches who thought they were playing 5D Chess, but to an outside observer looked like two guys playing with sticks in the mud.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 19:11 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Yeah I'm smarter than Jared Bednar and Mike Sullivan too It feels like a pretty uncontroversial opinion to think that you should probably play MacKinnon and Rantanen together at 5-on-5. If you are splitting them up for matchups or whatever, you are probably overthinking things.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 22:50 |
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Yeah Tampa got poo poo on a lot for that trade last year, but this year it looks like an annoyingly good trade.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2023 22:10 |
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It is pretty funny that the Kings would still be paying Doughty $11M/year when Chychrun is up for an extension. It's not all doom and gloom though, as Kopitar's contract will have expired by then.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2023 06:47 |
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It's pretty amazing that St. Louis is just giving away forwards, meanwhile their back end is awful, all 30+, and locked into long term deals with no trade clauses.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2023 06:38 |
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The Edmonton Oilers are loving embarrassing.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2023 00:01 |
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fermun posted:It's gonna be weird on Landeskog's situation for the Avs, based on when he's expected to be back right now, it's supposed to be early April, which would be a money in money out situation, but if he's delayed just another week and a half, then the Avs have 7.1M in cap space. Erik Johnson's broken ankle in a normal recovery time would put him ready to play late in the 1st round of the playoffs, and that's 6M more, but Avs have basically no picks or prospects unless they're willing to deal a 1st round pick. Sakic wasn't a fan of trading first rounders, but now that he's been promoted and MacFarland is the GM, maybe? Landeskog is supposedly back skating this week, so I think he'll be back well before early April.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2023 06:20 |
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You can't win hockey games unless your team is stupidly running around trying to cheap shot Nazem Kadri while letting him score a hatty. Sorry, but that's the type of grit you need to win in the playoffs. Look the other team may have a 50% power play, but they'll know that you showed up to play
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2023 05:41 |
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I'm sitting back, having a hearty chuckle reminiscing about how Claude Giroux rejected going to Colorado and would only go to Florida.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2023 19:30 |
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grack posted:Avs traded something called a Shane Bowers to Boston for Keith Kinkaid Bowers is a former 1st round pick the Avs picked up as part of the Duchene trade. He's been farting about in the AHL and got injured immediately when he finally got his first NHL call up. He played college hockey in Boston. Kincaid is kind of an odd pickup for the Avs, as I think he's really only useful for the next couple of weeks while Francouz is out.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2023 22:48 |
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If things go according to plan Jack Johnson isn't going to see the ice in the postseason. Otherwise I would much rather have him out there than Andreas Englund or Brad Hunt. I am getting kind of nervous about the trades the Avs are making though. Surely they don't think everything will be fixed by Landeskog returning to the lineup?
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 04:00 |
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fermun posted:Avs emptied the cupboard for last year's team and most GMs aren't comfortable with trading for picks too far out because they know those players won't possibly develop before their time as GM is over. The Avs have 3 good non-roster prospects left in Olausson, Beaucage, and Foudy, 2 decent ones in Ranta and Behrens, then either their 1sts, late round picks, or 2025 picks. I definitely think they should have been in for Barbashev, and Vegas didn't really pay a whole lot for him. But, I don't know, maybe St. Louis wasn't interested in dealing with Colorado. As a whole I think their AHL guys are poo poo, and the Avs should move them before anyone else figures out they're poo poo. If Nick Schmaltz or someone can be had for a first and any of those guys, I would get that done ASAP. Instead every trade Colorado has done has more or less been a depth move to shore up the 4th line, which you would think those guys from the Eagles could play a role right now. Simplex fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Feb 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 06:40 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I feel like Colorado is fine once everyone gets healthy. I know some people think their 2C is a weak spot but it seems like JT Compher has done fine to me. Compher is fine, and can play anywhere up and down the lineup in a pinch. But he's really not a long term solution at 2C. At the moment he isn't even the 2C, as Rantanen has been bumped down to center the second line. Plus they are just brutal on faceoffs which is causing problems especially on special teams.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 08:08 |
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There are a whole lot of quotes in that TSN article that I'm not sure why anyone would want their name attached to. quote:We also feel the timing is not good both on the perception front and for the survival of what we hold dear. Is something that somebody felt comfortable writing in an email.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 17:29 |
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News: Alex Tuch - 57 games played, 28 goals, 34 assists Jack Eichel - 47 games played, 20 goals, 23 assists Views:
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2023 06:56 |
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eXXon posted:They're going to closely scrutinize trading for injured players how and do what about it? Actually verify that players on IR are injured, something that they're presumably already supposed to be doing? My guess is the league caught wind that someone was going to try to trade future considerations or some bullshit for Toews.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2023 18:12 |
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The Kings gave Cal Petersen a contract extension and a 12-team no trade clause, and he proceeded to stink up the joint to the point that they had to send him back to the minors, so the Kings would have to pay someone to take his contract. Moving Quick was really their only option to improve their goaltending.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 15:19 |
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That's pretty common now with teams trying to scrape together cap space. The Avalanche are doing the same thing at the moment with Brad Hunt and Ben Meyers.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 16:55 |
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Avs could use a penalty killer and face off guy. A 2nd round pick is ? unless there is a lot of contract being retained by someone.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 19:56 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 14:28 |
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:A 2nd in 2025 might turn into a player by 2030! I don't mind them moving picks, I just think moving a 2nd for an expiring contract who is going to be a 4C for you is maybe not prudent asset management. Especially since Washington is only retaining 31% of his $3.5 million contact.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 20:52 |