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Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

thrawn527 posted:

Now that I have you all here, I’d like to tell you about Rome…

Best HBO show ever.

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
It'd be cool and good if they re-released Mighty Boosh in North America on dvd

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost
Lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1609643437795549185?cxt=HHwWgoC9zbWLzdYsAAAA

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Sirotan posted:

At the family Christmas my mom described Yellowstone as "the most gritty and realistic tv show I've ever seen". Yes she is a boomer.

I mentioned this in the last thread: Yellowstone is boomer catnip because it's basically Dallas (which, you may recall, was the biggest show on TV in the '70s and '80s), except instead of everyone fighting over control of a ranch that's on top of oil, everyone's fighting over control of a ranch in Montana.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Oasx posted:

Best HBO show ever.

I like you already.

raven77
Jan 28, 2006

Nevermore.

BonoMan posted:

For some reason decided to watch Old last night after everyone went to bed.

What a terrible first thing to watch for 2023. Just abysmal at every turn.

I agree! I was so angry by the end of that movie. Like, there were hints of an interesting idea there, but I think it would've been better as a Twilight Zone episode. It had nowhere near enough a good plot to be that long and none of the actors were charismatic enough to pull it off. Shyamalan keeps sucking me in with ideas that sound good, but other than Signs and The Sixth Sense, every other movie he's made has been highly disappointing in my opinion.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

As we're in TVIV, I'll say that Servant is very enjoyable. Extremely campy mix of horror, comedy, drama, and food porn. He's only directed a few episodes but seems pretty involved with the production, and his daughter also directs a few. And there's the requisite cameo in the pilot episode, too.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




thrawn527 posted:

Now that I have you all here, I’d like to tell you about Rome…

finally got around to watching that a couple months ago, was good poo poo.

it did make me wonder what exactly they would have done with more seasons, since it looked like the end of season 2 would've run right into the start of I, Claudius (also another great series)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Aces High posted:

it did make me wonder what exactly they would have done with more seasons, since it looked like the end of season 2 would've run right into the start of I, Claudius (also another great series)

This reminds me of one of my favorite scenes (and a great moment in history to boot!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwC7YH-1jM

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Aces High posted:

it did make me wonder what exactly they would have done with more seasons, since it looked like the end of season 2 would've run right into the start of I, Claudius (also another great series)

The back half of season two was a very compressed version of what they might have done in seasons three and four -- mostly the Anthony and Cleopatra saga.

The second season would have originally ended with Phllippi, while the fifth season would have dealt with Jesus.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




that does make sense, the back half of season 2 suddenly just zipped along and I wasn't sure if they were just going to end on a cliffhanger (they kinda still do, but not in the same way as a lot of other shows in similar situations) or what

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I like how in the context of Rome that it makes complete sense that Pullo and Vorenus would be like 90+ years old and probably know Jesus personally/

It's a shame season 2 was so truncated because there's awkward stuff like the Jewish rebellion that just fizzles out. And I wanted way more of Cleopatra and Antony.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Took me a while to finally start watching Taskmaster but drat y'all were right this show rocks. I watched a random ep here and there before and it didn't catch me, but watching the first series all the way through made me laugh so loving hard

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



There was a new one off Taskmaster that aired last night if you wanna hit that up too.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I just really disliked Rome Season 2 for making Vorenus so dislikable. Season 1 Vorenus wasn't the warmest dude, of course, but he's just a giant prick in season 2 and it felt artificial and inorganic, for the sake of making a bunch of unnecessary drama. Plus recasting Octavian was a huge whiff.

Yes, the timeline compression was also a bummer—though imo even the end of season 1 was rushed. They could have made a whole season about the assassination plot and the turn of Brutus.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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His transition seemed very natural, to me. A strict Catonian who ended up on the wrong side of the civil war: Vorenus believed, more than anything, in accepting the role you had. He always strove to be the best at whatever he was doing (except being a husband lol) it just so happened that he spent most of season 2 being the best gangster he could be…

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
Also, if you’ve never seen The Terror: it’s worth a viewing just to see Caesar and Brutus back together. The writers even threw up a few Rome references in little nods to the camera!

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
What are some more obscure older sci-fi shows with great production design and world-building? I've been watching Space Precinct 2040 and the world in it is so well-designed it has me craving more shows that really go all out with it. Ideally mid-90s or before, but open.

Also interested in shows with more ambition than ability to execute on it.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Ever seen Total Recall 2070?

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Have you seen Lexx??

(the miniseries-pilot definitely the first requirement, maybe the actual show the latter)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

feedmyleg posted:

What are some more obscure older sci-fi shows with great production design and world-building? I've been watching Space Precinct 2040 and the world in it is so well-designed it has me craving more shows that really go all out with it. Ideally mid-90s or before, but open.

Also interested in shows with more ambition than ability to execute on it.

I'd second Lexx and throw in Farscape, but I don't know how obscure you'd consider them. Space Above And Beyond is tight. Harsh Realm is definitely ambition over execution, though I only watched a handful of episodes (not because it's bad).

Not 90's, but you'd probably want a look at Charlie Jade as well. It dithers a bit in the second act, but has a very strong third that brings it home. Seems very close to the kind of thing you're looking for.

There's also a handful of anime from that period you might want to have a look in on, but I dunno if that's your thing.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


If you're up for a miniseries, V is great.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Sirotan posted:

If you're up for a miniseries, V is great.

For Victory!

Big McHuge
Feb 5, 2014

You wait for the war to happen like vultures.
If you want to help, prevent the war.
Don't save the remnants.

Save them all.
Finally got around to watching RRR last night, and now wondering why it took me so long to get around to that. If I was Ubisoft I'd just give that production company the keys to any live-action Assassin's Creed stuff and let them go nuts.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Mu Zeta posted:

Ever seen Total Recall 2070?

Haha this was going to be my other reference point, yeah.

Lexx is interesting, because I only remember it as "Horny Farscape" so if it actually holds up I'll check that out.

V I have vague memories of from when I was a kid, that could definitely merit a revisit.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Also, if you’ve never seen The Terror: it’s worth a viewing just to see Caesar and Brutus back together. The writers even threw up a few Rome references in little nods to the camera!

The John Carter movie had Caesar, Antony, Atia, and Posca, though I think only the latter was actually live and not CGI.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Open Source Idiom posted:

The back half of season two was a very compressed version of what they might have done in seasons three and four -- mostly the Anthony and Cleopatra saga.

The second season would have originally ended with Phllippi, while the fifth season would have dealt with Jesus.

Yeah, my only problem with Rome was the end of season 2, where they found out they were being cancelled and did a speed run of about 2 and a half seasons in a half season. That being said, there’s still some great poo poo in there. The death of Anthony being one of them.

But also, yeah, they had to completely scrap the plans for season 5, with Jesus, so the Jewish rebellion plot goes nowhere. HBO has cited their gently caress ups with cancelling Rome and Deadwood too early for why they gave Game of Thrones such leeway to do whatever they wanted, so at least they learned a lesson from it.

I still think it’s one of the best shows they’ve ever produced.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

feedmyleg posted:

Lexx is interesting, because I only remember it as "Horny Farscape" so if it actually holds up I'll check that out.
Horny Farscape implies that the story had a clear direction. I felt like Lexx sputtered out when it did the Fire/Water planet and was on life support for the Earth analogue planet.

Lexx as a whole felt like the counterpoint to something like Star Trek, where the future is broken and gross and weirdly sexual instead of hopeful. It took all the Millennial Hope people had and said "nah, we're all utterly horny and stupid and power hungry and this is as good as it gets"

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

FilthyImp posted:

Horny Farscape implies that the story had a clear direction. I felt like Lexx sputtered out when it did the Fire/Water planet and was on life support for the Earth analogue planet.

Lexx as a whole felt like the counterpoint to something like Star Trek, where the future is broken and gross and weirdly sexual instead of hopeful. It took all the Millennial Hope people had and said "nah, we're all utterly horny and stupid and power hungry and this is as good as it gets"

Well if someone had originally sold me on the show like that, I might have tried it.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

feedmyleg posted:

Also interested in shows with more ambition than ability to execute on it.
VR5 maybe?
Seven Days?
Nowhere Man isn't too sci-fi but definitely tried to do something ahead of it's time.
Burning Zone?
The Invisible Man?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Lexx isn't necessarily good TV. But goddamn could I not stop watching the spectacle.

It's honestly surprising as hell that it aired on Syfy in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off

feedmyleg posted:

Also interested in shows with more ambition than ability to execute on it.

Uhhhhhhhhh, Sapphire and Steel maybe if you like your scifi dense and British as gently caress? Not sure it ranks as good however but it is waaaaay too ambitious on the part of the creator and whatever he was trying to tell.

Automan would be another that's merely too ambitious for the vfx of 1987. Easily summed up as buddy cop reverse Tron.

I don't think Gemini Man is what you're looking for, but if you ever wanted to know where MST3K's Riding with Death came from, it's all on YouTube and well I didn't mind it.

However, I have now successfully outed my self as willing to watch any strange old scifi television dreck so take that as you will.

Sekhmnet
Jan 22, 2019


bull3964 posted:

Lexx isn't necessarily good TV. But goddamn could I not stop watching the spectacle.

It's honestly surprising as hell that it aired on Syfy in the late 90s/early 2000s.

The underlying science fiction stories, especially the begining with his shadow, are actually really cool underneath the lack of production values and stuff that even contemporaneously looked low-budget. I describe it to friends as "imagine if GWAR made a star trek and Hugh Hefner invested in it so they had to sex it up to keep the money flowing"

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Chairman Capone posted:

The John Carter movie had Caesar, Antony, Atia, and Posca, though I think only the latter was actually live and not CGI.

Ciarán Hinds was Tardos Mors, Dejah Thoris' father and Hinds is a face you don't forget. I think it was only Polly Walker that didn't get to show her real face (though she basically was playing a less-subtle version of Atia).


I bet Dominic West would've been great in Rome, I could see him working as a one-and-done like Sejanus

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
Ciarán Hinds is one of those actors that always makes me take an extra interest in a show, purely because of Rome.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Sekhmnet posted:

The underlying science fiction stories, especially the begining with his shadow, are actually really cool underneath the lack of production values and stuff that even contemporaneously looked low-budget. I describe it to friends as "imagine if GWAR made a star trek and Hugh Hefner invested in it so they had to sex it up to keep the money flowing"

It also has a weird broadcast and production history.

The first "season" is 4 feature length movies made in 1997, but Sci-Fi Channel in the US didn't get airing rights until 2000 and first aired it under the name "Tales from a Parallel Universe". So, by the time Lexx starting airing in the US, the 3rd season was airing other places.

I'm pretty sure I started watching sometime in season 2 and didn't manage to watch the first 4 movies until years later.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1609996770787860483

I don't think I'm being dramatic when I say I want to set myself on fire.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


lol at this point why do we even bother watching any Netflix show, seriously

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Honestly it wasn’t great. Paled in comparison to Dark

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Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Hughmoris posted:

https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1609996770787860483

I don't think I'm being dramatic when I say I want to set myself on fire.

Well, guess that saved me some time.

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