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At this rate I fully expect WTK to pull a henka day 1 in May. I think this is the third(?) basho in a row where week 1 was just abysmal and the second week was just recovery (well, hopefully)
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2023 14:54 |
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2024 11:30 |
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I always love watching the rikishi's faces after a henka. Hoshoryu specifically has such a smug smirk when he pulls a successful one.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2023 03:42 |
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Not sure if this all needs spoilered, but I'll continue on. I get the impression that unless someone is actively injured, there's a bit of pressure/expectation to keep going until they just can't anymore. Tochinoshin hasn't looked good for several tournaments now and yet he's still going (well at least until today if I take the other comments here). You'd still see sparks of old Tochi every once in a while, but his knees are just loving gone, and he's still here. Conversely, it's also really impressive that Tamawashi has managed to stay healthy
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2023 16:33 |
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Hirayuki posted:I agree. The monoii focused only on their feet and not on WTK's fistful of hair. As an avowed WTK fanboy, I also noticed this. The only counterpoint I can think of is that the hair pull would not have had a material impact on the outcome of the match.... Except that WTK putting his hand there means it wasn't hitting the ground before the feet
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2023 02:30 |
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:Day 14 and look ahead to 15: Kiribayama is setting himself up well, but he's only been at sanyaku for two tournaments (this and the previous). I think if they feel the need to panic promote someone, it'll be Hoshoryu. If he wins tomorrow, that's 30 over the past three. All at sekiwake. He's really recovered this basho well. In reality I expect WMH and WTK to swap spots and not much else. Unrelated, I hope Kinbozan learns from his match today and doesn't do similar in a scenario when it costs him. Finish your plate! Natto's channel is reporting that WTKs injury will require three months of recovery. If that's the case, I would expect him to miss May and fall about to m8. I think that's where Abi landed after missing a tournament at komusubi?
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2023 16:15 |
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Brut posted:What? He's only been Sekiwake this basho but he was Komusubi for the 3 consecutive bashos before that I could have sworn it said different when I looked at Wikipedia earlier this morning, but clearly I'm wrong.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2023 19:48 |
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Fearless posted:Is there a limit to the number of active ozeki? Nope, has to be a minimum of two, but no max. There were three ozeki this time last year. Edit: There are probably practical and perhaps mathematical limits... Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Mar 27, 2023 18:00 |
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some kinda jackal posted:Woof -- not quite as optimistic that I'm going to be there for day one of May basho now Oh no, I was hoping to do just this in September. Hopefully it's sorted by then?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2023 12:31 |
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Thauros posted:it doesn't sound like they're banned from selling *any* tickets at least, just the "food/souvenir" set combo. still really sucks for some kinda jackal and anyone else hosed over because two people had to be idiots. i plan on going to japan either in august or november and i don't expect i'll be able to see sumo but i still hope to use them for pro wrestling tickets as i did in 2019. Yeah, I was actually wanting to do that combo. Sumo Prime Time did a video about it during the January tournament and it looked like an interesting experience.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2023 12:08 |
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Isn't keisho also injured? I seem to recall he was out at the end of the last tournament with an injury suspected to take multiple months to heal. I think I'll also skip this tournament. Congrats in advance to asanoyama getters. I suspect he'll tear up the lower ranks.
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# ¿ May 12, 2023 21:47 |
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Average Lettuce posted:Day 3: I was legit shocked by this. They robbed my boy.
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# ¿ May 16, 2023 17:50 |
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bartolimu posted:When this happens, my fantasy team will be the Fozzy Bear team: Waka Waka Waka plus a bear (Takayasu). This is maybe the nerdiest possible joke and I want you to know that I appreciate it.
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# ¿ May 16, 2023 22:05 |
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The sound of two foreheads smashing into each other during a tachi-ai is quite a way to get the blood flowing in the morning. Also really glad to see Daiesho doing consistently well. The first basho I watched was Jan 22 and the first day had Daiesho put on a hell of a performance against Terunofuji during his massive win streak. He didn't win, but he looked great, and I've been a fan ever since.
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# ¿ May 17, 2023 22:57 |
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Shiroc posted:They're gotta have Asanoyama facing higher ranked guys pretty fast, right? He's not ranked low because of injury recovery or anything so it seems unfair to everyone else to give him a normal set of opponents. Clearly the script says that asanoyama has to stay undefeated for the first week or else the shimpan wouldn't have done Kotoeko like they did...
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# ¿ May 18, 2023 04:08 |
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This is one of the videos that got me into sumo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV_xmGrDgUA o7 Tochi
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# ¿ May 19, 2023 02:46 |
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Yeah it really does seem like Meisei is the only one this tournament who battled Terunofuji in his terms, rather than the Yokozuna's. Hopefully they keep things interesting for the rest of the tournament. I think Asanoyama will have to maintain a tie for the tournament a couple more days before they send him in?
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# ¿ May 22, 2023 22:21 |
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Day 10: Big upsets today. It's interesting to see a bit of variation from Hokuseiho. Not sure if that was a henka attempt with a planned recovery or a clever way to get to the belt. Either way, it worked great. Good to see Kinbozan with a small recovery. He still looks headed for an MK, but taking it an ozeki is pretty good, granted that keisho probably just needs to get his 8 and come back in September. Do WMH and Kirybayama have beef? I normally don't begrudge an extra shove at the rope. After all, I've seen the opposite bite less experienced rikishi. The kick at the end of this match seemed a little odd though. Really thought kotonowaka had that for a second. Would have been quite a feat
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# ¿ May 23, 2023 18:05 |
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Brut posted:I don't think that was a kick, I think that was Kiribayama trying to lift his leg to get himself out of there but also trying to stay balanced and not fall over forwards, he just ends up accidentally almost touching Wakamotoharu, it looks worse from certain angles Ah okay. Just watching the natto vids and I was kinda going "WTF?"
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# ¿ May 23, 2023 22:40 |
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Me when seeing Ura and Tobizaru squaring up: "This should be something." Me after the match: "That sure was something." Loved it. Edit: In addition to takakeisho being injured and having a very mediocre performance because of it (at least by his standard), there's a bunch of other interesting stories: A four sekiwake race to ozeki (even if Daiesho and Hoshoryu would be long shots) Asanoyama and Terunofuji returning to makuuchi (after being absent for very different reasons) And two young rising stars trying to prove themselves. Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 22:57 on May 25, 2023 |
# ¿ May 25, 2023 22:35 |
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Daiesho has the numbers but I thought they only considered tournament records at sanyaku? Edit: I just revisited the Wikipedia article about this and I guess not. In that case, let's fuckin go Daiesho. Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 25, 2023 |
# ¿ May 25, 2023 23:28 |
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bartolimu posted:Best part was he tried it once and failed, but timed the second sotogake perfectly when Hokuseiho was paying more attention to getting an arm inside than what was going on downstairs. Really good wrestling sense by Kiri. He's obviously ready for Ozeki; I hope he handles the pressure better than Mitake and Shodai did. Speaking of Mitakeumi got his first kk in a year today Also it was fun to watch Hokuseiho's arms flail as he went over with a big splat. He and Kinbozan have a ton of potential and just need some experience/polish. Also also I think this actually happened yesterday, but Oho staved off demotion to juryo. I think he's in a good position to get a decent record this basho
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# ¿ May 26, 2023 21:21 |
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:Ura got loving robbed. I declare Kanly against kotonowaka. Yeah I didn't understand this one at all... I think Hoshoryu and WMH are going to be in very good position to wind up at 33 by the end of July.
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# ¿ May 27, 2023 17:26 |
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Race to 33 for the other current sekiwake: Hoshoryu and WMH would need 12, Daiesho needs 11. Should make for an interesting July!
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# ¿ May 28, 2023 19:32 |
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Thauros posted:i had no idea harumafuji only took his shikona after reaching ozeki, thanks Oh no, I think this means that shodai's demotion was a departure from the righteous era.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 00:13 |
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Y/O: Terunofuji Kirishima S/K: Wakamotoharu Hoshoryu Daieisho M1-5: Asanoyama Shodai Ura M6-10: Kinbozan Tamawashi Hokuseiho M11+: Hakuoho Kotoeko Bushozan Top of the banzuke is weird. Everyone in Y/O is apparently injured? Crapshoot. If Teru isn't kyujo he'll probably still put on a show, but it'll be apparent by like, day 3. Sekiwake is open season and one of these dudes is going to hopefully pop 12 and make the jump. Komusubi is some folks who have done well but maybe not been consistent? Kotonowaka has done better recently than Abi, but in the end there's no reason to pick either of these over the sekiwake. It is ripe for upset though. Returning Asanoyama seems an easy lock for 1-5. Second pick Shodai for memes, and I'll throw Ura in third because I like him, but I never expect Ura to amaze. Mitakeumi is an interesting pick at this tier. He recently had his first KK in a year. Is he over the slump? I really need more than one tournament to believe again. Would not be surprised if he got off to a very good start at this ranking though. This was probably the most I've had to consider the 6-10 rank. There's a very good mix of up and coming stars and long timers who are maybe injured and/or need a break. Tamawashi and Takayasu always feel like they're within striking distance of yusho and starting this low means they could build some momentum. On the other hand, you have three young lads who've all had 10+ tournaments in the last year in Oho, Kinbozan, and Hokuseiho. I feel like a lot of people will have studied Hokuseiho, so if he doesn't come to this tournament with more of a game plan than 'Be big' he might be hosed. At M11+, it is hard not to be excited about the new prodigy. After that, I always give ups to Kotoeko because that small dude puts on a show. Then, I feel Bushozan is a corporeal successor to the hamster.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2023 05:27 |
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Teru looked good despite the reported back injury. Hope he can stay healthy or it’s gonna be another weird one. My team doing mediocre as always. Great first day of bouts though!
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2023 16:48 |
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I usually put on midnight sumo to fall asleep to during the bashos. I woke up and randomly saw the Teru/Nishikigi bout and thought I dreamt it. Absolutely wild to see the big man thrown like that. You can tell that Oho had a plan going up against Hokuseiho and struggled a bit when it didn't work out. Still managed to recover though!
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2023 17:39 |
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Savage
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2023 23:42 |
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It's clear to me now that Fluffdaddy is using their influence as an SA Admin to rig the world of sumo in their favor. What a match between Tobi/Teru! On the Natto vid (and I'm sure NHK feed in general), as soon as the result is called you can see a guy in the background immediately stand up and yeet his seat cushion. The bummer is, I'm going to be at the September basho and it's looking like Teru won't be.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 14:03 |
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After seeing Teru wobbly post match and watching the replay, I kinda winced at the leg shot from Tobi. It's fair play on Tobi's part, but it looked to connect direct with Teru's knee.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2023 04:13 |
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Curious if I can get help from someone who's used buysumotickets.com before. I was going to go ahead and pre-order my tickets for September. I had originally planned on going opening day, but it seems that tickets are sold out up to 'box c'. If I look at this picture, that doesn't seem so bad: I'm just curious how it corresponds to this picture: Does each 'row' of boxes correspond to the 'tiers' listed on the site? Assuming that, box c doesn't seem so bad, but if it's the seats up under the overhang I think I'd prefer to wait a day. Seats for Monday are still available in the 'a' box I'm also interested in how cramped the boxes are for 4 adult Americans. I get the impression that the stadium seats would be very uncomfortable for person my size. Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 13, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 00:41 |
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I love watching a henka fail.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 19:15 |
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Granted that the sumo world had been going nuts about Hakuho being the second of his namesake, it's important to remember he's 19 and this is his fourth tournament as a pro. First in the top division. If he gets a KK, I'd say that's a satisfactory result.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 22:42 |
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If/When he gets to ozeki, they will drop the 'u'
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 23:07 |
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I think this is my best first week thus far. Looking forward to tanking in week 2!
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 22:36 |
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anakha posted:Day 12: Oof, not a good day to be an ozeki candidate. Yeah, promotion prospects are starting to look grim. Otoh, Hakuoho appears to be proving himself. If he wins tomorrow things could get quite interesting. I would like to trade Shodai to get Asanoyama back please!
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2023 12:42 |
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I love how the entire arena reacts to this tachiai. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HInT8Re67U0 Also, I buffered the natto vid of the makuuchi and watched it on a plane today. I think I literally made a :pogchamp: face at the Hakuoho/Nishikigi match. Edit: Hopefully this trade was registered? Nativity In Black posted:
It's points for day 13, but day 14 will be make or break. Edit 2: I've been rewatching this Hakuoho/Nishikigi match and I'm still kinda amazed by it. On my first watch, I was a little surprised that Nishikigi didn't win off the initial push to the rope, but you can see that lil' Hak kick's at his leg, which makes him pull back a bit. They go to the classic mid sumo match 'tie up and take a breather' and it's not like Nishkigi's leg appears out of nowhere to kick. Hakuoho seems to pull in such a way that puts the leg where he can kick. It's nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zOXGSqv5wo Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 04:13 |
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Saturnine Aberrance posted:Typically you can't trade after day 8, and trades that do happen are when your current pick goes kyujo. Maybe there could be some special exemption for a previous kyujo trade if your formerly kyujo pick comes back, but I don't believe that's ever been done. Usually people will just explicitly decide to keep their kyujo wrestler on the team. Well there goes my chances at a full kk team.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 04:48 |
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Brut posted:
Adding another bit here, there's some weird optics if Hoshoryu loses to the rookie and still gets the promotion. If he gets the Yusho, I think it's a lock though. Beating HakJr and losing to Hokutofuji in a play off would probably also lead to a dicey decision Very high stakes tomorrow!
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 18:12 |
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2024 11:30 |
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Oh I just realized that both ozeki will be kadoban next basho. I imagine they will both recover assuming they can stay healthy, but if not there could be some interesting banzuke shuffling for November. I feel kinda bad for Nishikigi. The dude went through the entire sanyaku and only lost to Kotonowaka, I think? Hakuoho's road was a fair bit easier by comparison.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 18:54 |