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Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Eeevil posted:

If brevity was the soul of wit then things without brevity wouldn't have wit, which is observably untrue. The "maxim" has remained relevant because of its similarity to an actual true thing, which is that the essence of comedy is timing.

That isn’t even a little bit how logic works.

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Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Eeevil posted:

what do you think it means for something to be "the soul" of something else? i would assume that it means the first thing is vital to the second but it sounds like you disagree?

edit: I see the statement "brevity is the soul of wit" as being functionally identical to the statement "there is no wit without brevity." If that interpretation is correct, the statement is as easy to disprove as "all cats are at least 50 feet tall;" one counterexample immediately disproves it. If that interpretation is incorrect, I admit that leaves a lot of potential holes in my logic.

Do you hold all aphorisms to literalist interpretation. Like only Brits can be penny wise and pound foolish.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Skios posted:

A.F. Branco




O my god what the gently caress even is this.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Skios posted:



Marshall Ramsey




Really glad there was a labeled sign where the roads crossed to tell me it was a crossroads.

That would’ve been a real brain buster.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



idonotlikepeas posted:

She'll probably only shoot people who've slept with prostitutes or watched porn, though, so that's alright since those people are moral voids.

In an unrelated discussion, did you ever hear that the University of Montreal once tried to perform a study on how watching porn for the first time affected men? They had to cancel that portion of the work because they could not locate any men in their twenties who had not watched porn.

The Amish?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.




Well I'm glad this artist agrees with me that Matt Gaetz looks kind of like Butthead.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Dial911 posted:

If we're using their world as twisted allegory for Congress I nominate Boebert as Daria, all she needs is the green jacket to complete the look.

Yes but I like Daria.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Skios posted:

I legitimately thought that it was another Biden documents cartoon until I read the speech bubble.

I thought it was Ian Holm.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



How is an object “7 ways from Sunday”.

What does that even mean.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Ambitious Spider posted:

consistent as always stiglich

Very timely.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



predicto posted:

Nah, they wouldn't. Depends on what they are (and if there are any indications of espionage), but in most cases it wouldn't lead to a prosecution.

Yeah the ones that have been prosecuted were egregious. Like the guy who just tossed them in a public dumpster for neighborhood kids or the one who left it in someone else’s unlocked desk drawer in another state.

Trying to hide them is Trump’s crime.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Woke York is the best you had? Really?

loving shameful.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Skios posted:



Steve Breen



Steve Kelley



Why is Uncle Sam filthy looking.

Is he a carnie.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Farecoal posted:

Didn't Cromwell try to genocide the Irish

He did a lot more than try.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



kartikeya posted:

Is it just me, or does basically every caricature of Rishi Sunak that turns up here fit somewhere along the spectrum of "vaguely racist" to "extraordinarily racist"?

If I only got information from UK cartoons I'd assume he's a literal goblin.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Paingod556 posted:

1- It's a snag sanga
2- It's tomato sauce
3- Tom sauce on a snag is perfectly cromulent and is our version to 'I voted' stickers or whatever seppos do at election time.

I figured out "seppo" from context, but if you wanted to expand on that some more I'd be happy to read it.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Groke posted:

It's rhyming slang.

Yank -> septic tank -> seppo

Of loving course it is. Beautiful bastards.

Thanks a mill for the clarification.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Yeah I am loving baffled at "Woke Diner" as even just a string.

What the gently caress.

LGBTQ plate special?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



wizzardstaff posted:

Please, blue hair special was right there.

Fffffffffffuuuuuck.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Does Payne know you can't actually shoot extinct animals like the Woolly Mammoth?

Sure you can.

It won’t do anything besides get you arrested and banned from a museum, but you’ll have shot a wooly mammoth.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.




Those sure are some boots.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



seiferguy posted:

It's based on his ridiculous fashion choices while he was touring hurricane damaged areas:



Of course lol.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



idonotlikepeas posted:

I think the cartoon would have been more effective if there were, like, one book on one shelf with an appropriate title. (Mein Kampf might be a little on the nose, but something like that.) Because the goal isn't to have no learning, it's to take away meaningful learning and replace it with one narrow stream of propaganda.

Lone copies of the bible and Art of the Deal spring to mind.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I keep thinking her hair is the curtain.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I think that last one was straight up for something else and he redid the labels.

They only even vaguely correspond with the things they're labeled as, I bet he totally self-plagiarized that.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I love that specific brand of crazy because it presupposes that oxygen molecules are these big ol’ chonky things that would be just bouncing off the mask like ping pong balls.

You can also tell they haven’t thought this through if they have curtains.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Angepain posted:

this coyote is male. this strip will soon be illegal in several states

That’s a coyote?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



100YrsofAttitude posted:



Charlie Hebdo


Palmade the new-hick
A succesful integration
Pierre Palmade, a comedian, ended up in a bad car accident it seems. Not sure how this is quite related.


Is he plowing a field with a wheel of cocks. Like some kind of spinning dick-dibber.

What.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



100YrsofAttitude posted:


There's some longer comics on here that I'm feeling too lazy to translate. Would you like me to just post them and you lot deal with it?

I like your notes and appreciate them, but surely there's enough people who can read French that you shouldn't feel obligated.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Adenoid Dan posted:

Nobody is just making things up out of thin air. This has followed a rail worker strike where the main issues were safety related, and initial reports have pointed to a mechanical issue with an axle.

This didn't happen in a vacuum.

You are admitting you don't actually know what went wrong, but you want to assume it's something specific to push for a political agenda.

Just because I might agree with those political beliefs doesn't make that not intensely hosed up and a symptom of why we can't have a functioning government.

We need to actually know what the root cause of the problem is.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



VitalSigns posted:

Why do we have to wait for the root cause of this crash to oppose deregulation and lack of safety standards, we already know those things are a problem. If they didn't cause this accident, they'll cause some accident.

Not to say finding the root cause of this crash isn't important on it's own. Of course it is! If it turns out to be something else we need to know so we can fix that too. But I don't see why we have to wait to fix other problems we know exist whether they contributed to this particular crash or not.

Did I say that?

I've opposed deregulation for my entire adult life and I'm going to do that regardless. And deregulation is a natural and probable factor in at least making this tragedy as bad as it seems to be.

But that's actually why I'm careful to wait for information. Because I give a poo poo about regulating public infrastructure and the handling of toxic materials, I want to be correct when I argue for them. It weakens my argument long-term if I sweep in bad evidence because it short term could grift me some good press.

You basically just said, "Hey, this is a good cause, so why don't you use some bad faith arguments to promote it?" Because I actually care about my positions.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



VitalSigns posted:

I don't believe I said that actually.

E: clarity
I agree we should wait for the report on the train crash before we say what caused the train crash

I don't think we need to wait for the report on the train crash to push for better regulation because the hazards from Trump’s deregulation and Biden's strikebreaking exist whether they caused this particular crash or not.

I’ve been talking about about the sad state of the US rail system my entire adult life. At no point did I say we shouldn’t work for it and this is a dumb straw man.

The conversation isn’t about regulation in general, it’s specifically about this derailment. You edited out me saying that I didn’t want to use this as part of my larger argument for infrastructure regulation because if that turns out to not be the root cause it weakens it.

Your clarification edit was to summarize my point back in a snarky way. Are you even reading?

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



VitalSigns posted:

I didn't say you did. I was just being careful to distinguish two different issues which seemed like they may have been getting mashed together.

Should we make up what we think caused the crash while the investigation is incomplete (No, imo)

Do we need to wait until we find out what caused the crash to talk about regulation, braking systems, workers' hours and time off because doing so now would be taking advantage of a tragedy to push an agenda? (also no)

If you agree with both of these statements, then great.

Welcome to what DV and I are saying.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Zulily Zoetrope posted:

It does not materially matter whether the mechanical cause of the incident was faulty storage of hazardous chemicals, metal fatigue in a crucial piece of equipment, a trains man falling asleep at the wheel or whatever else.

This happened due to insufficient regulation, because if the train had been operating under a sufficient degree of regulation, the accident either would not have been happened at all or it would have been greatly mitigated by the appropriate failsafe mechanism.

You are literally assigning something a cause based on your tummy feels.

There should be more regulated transportation infrastructure because it’s fundamental part of the public good in having a society. You’re using lazy thinking to justify an unnecessary cause celebré.

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Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Vib Rib posted:

So what's the alternative reason? Terrorism?

Most likely it’s one of a couple hundred specific failure points that could be described as poor maintenance or standards. Any of which will help guide further regulations. But it totally could be some weird rear end poo poo too.

The point is that it’s a public policy matter that is actively killing people. Are you telling me you care enough to get angry but not enough to think long enough to care what the actual cause is for sure?

No I don’t magically know the answer. That’s the point.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



VitalSigns posted:

If we know about failure points shouldn't we want to fix them regardless of whether they caused the accident or not?

Like what's the harm if we fix 100 things and then later it turns out only 99 of them contributed to the accident, do we go "oh darn we fixed too many things, we might have prevented more accidents than we strictly needed to in response to this horrible accident".

I just don't get the insistence on waiting.

I swear to god dude, you really gotta learn to read.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



VitalSigns posted:

Idk it seems like people are pointing out actual problems and you keep saying well hang on you don't know that actually caused the accident, but why is that important, even problems that haven't caused accidents yet ought to be fixed right.

Maybe that's not how you're intending to come across but like that's how it sounds.

Like if what you mean is "hey let's fix all the deregulation and union busting we know exists, but don't lose sight of the fact that there may be more problems we haven't uncovered yet" then you should say it like that

I have said that’s my position to you several times.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.




This got a legit chuckle out of me. It's an actual, functioning joke.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I wanna know why the Biden-donkey is wearing human shoes.

...but not enough to read anything Garrison wrote.

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Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I kind of like the art for the bridge troll one. Reminds me a lot of the Rankin and Bass The Hobbit.

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