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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011
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Stultus Maximus posted:

Is there a "worst concern trolling" category?

e: Kellies nomination worst concern trolling

For real.

"Okay great let's ban child labor and sweatshops then"
*cue conservative screeching about job creators*

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VitalSigns
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Angepain posted:

sorry, hang on, are you implying that the mere act of posting cartoons to the political cartoons thread in a dead gay forum is getting people harrassed for some reason

Hang on you just gave me an idea of how we can escape this hell and never see another political cartoon in here again

VitalSigns
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It's pretty funny to see all these business Republicans freaking out that some of their members have strong enough beliefs to wield the power they have to advance the agendas they promised to support at election time, instead of just following orders from a political establishment that opposes what they want. Ramirez if you wanted to be part of a careerist business party that dumpsters its promises immediately upon getting access to the political patronage networks and machine support, should have been a Democrat!

Also it's sad because the principles these hardliner right-wing guys are sticking to are evil :(

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fool of sound posted:

Honestly there's so little difference between far right hucksters and far right ideologues that it's not always possible to tell what the actual motivating factor is.

I was about to say I don't even know what the difference is, we are what we pretend to be.

I suppose a right-wing equivalent of The Squad could be hucksters (talk a big far right game then vote party line when asked, vote present when asked, support the party machine nominee for speaker without extracting any concessions, etc), and that would be different from ideologues since they wouldn't get their professed agenda accomplished, but unless these reps cave and vote for McCarthy they aren't that.

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Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I mean, I'm no symbologist, but it could be that they consider Uncle Sam and Lady Liberty to be two separate symbols, one representing the US and the other representing something else.

"American 'freedom' is a fake idea" is not exactly a complex take.
Yeah the cartoon seems pretty straightforward. Lady Liberty ostensibly has free speech, but in reality is puppeted by the US Government (as Uncle Sam) and can only say what they want her to say.

Which isn't that controversial. We supposedly have a free press with free speech, yet in say the Iraq War they just acted as stenographers for the state department's manufactured casus belli.

Even under Trump they held back vital information from the public in order to preserve their official access or save material for a book etc.

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I think the lesson of Santos is that if you want to have a political career you better stick to lying about unimportant poo poo no one cares about like weapons of mass destruction in oil-rich countries, illegal domestic surveillance programs, whether an aid worker you slagged along with his kids is a terrorist, etc and always tell the truth about the real consequential stuff like where you went to school

VitalSigns
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We can always tell the donkeys who were born as males because of the leg hair

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Doesn't every god canonically exist in Sinfest? Or at least more than just the Christian one.

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Man, I'm actively trying to think less about Sinfest this year, but Johns weren't the reason 2022 died. She died because she stopped taking her meds, and because she was an anthropomorphic concept whose existence was tied to a specific date.

If you want to write a story where a prostitute is killed by a John and then her other prostitute friend goes on a revenge rampage and kills a bunch Johns then fine, do that! There's probably a bunch of grindhouse movies with that exact same plot already, in the right hands it might even be a fun ride! But that's not what you wrote! Total creative control and not a single plot point or character motivation feels related.
In fact it was the opposite, her freaky anthropomorphic time-being nature was killing Johns with some kind of rapid aging side effect.

Like, that was the plot? They thought they were using her but only ended up destroying themselves? Right? I guess he just forgot what he was trying to say?

VitalSigns
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I imagine Churchill would actually have been overjoyed if someone found a way he could side with Nazis to attack Russia

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I love my gas stove. I've never even lit it, I just turn the dial to high and huff straight from the burners to trigger the libs

E:

Post poste posted:

Okay, let's post a single political cartoon, I guess!


Calling it now: MM-23 is an athlete who dies from the jab. Another year of creating a character whose death is inevitably linked to an exact(-ish) date and blaming something else for killing them anyway.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jan 12, 2023

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Hihohe posted:

Im going with "hes a boy as you can tell by his football hemet, but (((THEY))) brainwash him into thinking hes a girl"

oh yeah that's a good guess, I think you might win this one

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Vib Rib posted:

Despite being a baby with literal no coherent conscious thought this baby is already a manly man who loves football, a sport he has never seen, and which as we all know is genetically linked to masculinity.

God puts a football helmet on every baby boy to show His approval of maleness.

Unfortunately nobody knew what this meant for almost 5,000 years until North American football was invented.

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Skios posted:



Michael Ramirez



Hm yeah I can't think of any example of Modern Aviation delaying or canceling vast numbers of flights just two weeks ago, last week's FAA computer outage was the only problem we've ever had

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Skios posted:

Kellies Nomination: Worst Gaslighting :smuggo:

Seriously though, this is apparently A Point that conservatives are making now:

https://twitter.com/briangitt/status/1614654067195916288

"Look at how dumb the Federal Government is! If they take away our gas stoves, we'll have to default to the only other option, wood stoves, which are way worse!"

...

This is conservatism right here. Getting wood combustion out of the home, which improved people's health and saved lives, was good because it happened before I was born. But making any further improvements is bad because things are fine just the way they are and we should celebrate burning gas in the home and keep doing it forever.

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Maybe you should use your loving time portal to make money, I'unno.

Seriously, how are you broke if you have a time machine handy?
The comic is a joke about housing prices and the impossibility of affording them for most young people, not a serious proposal that time travel is a viable solution

VitalSigns
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Smiling Padme: "so Biden is going to do something about a corporation jacking up egg prices right?"

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Lmao at all these Democrat cartoonists trying to do damage control.
Republicans mishandle classified documents like this: "Grrr! Rawr! I love crimes!"
Democrats mishandle classified documents like this: ":dementia: How did that get there? Are you my grandson? Would you take me home. "

E: and yes the Republican cartoonists pretending to care about classified docs now that the other guy did it too are also very funny

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jan 19, 2023

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Consumer protection, unfair trade practices, antitrust law, etc still exist and were never repealed by congress.

Unfortunately the current president does stuff like put a literal corporate bread price-fixer in the Cabinet, so I'm not sure how eager anyone in the administration is to crack down on that sort of thing.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jan 20, 2023

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Discendo Vox posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about, the FTC is the most aggressive it’s been in generations.
Well hopefully you are right and the FTC will step in here

Discendo Vox posted:

What is this price fixing nonsense?

https://mobile.twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1217764168973144065

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World Famous W posted:

oh god no, not insect proteins!



Bill Gates will never make me eat the bugs! But also we need to abolish USDA meat inspections because that's socialism

VitalSigns
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You could get Branco and Garrison and all them to eat the bugs so easily.

Step 1: abolish meat inspections. They already cheered this when Trump did it anyway
Step 2: Tyson chicken or some other factory farm starts (???) using insect protein as filler in chicken nuggets, etc
Step 3: turn on the culture war, ie respond to anyone blowing the whistle on the insect protein with an ad campaign saying real men eat Tyson's chicken nuggets to trigger the libs.

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We've already established the future culture war is going to be whether genderqueer republicans or neo-Leninists are the real transphobes

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Guavanaut posted:

Western media is blaming China because of decades of study of mathematics combined with the records of outside observers and the notes of peer medias, and saying that it's just a reaction to any bad news is a convenient simple story for children?

That doesn't make China look good, and implies that 'China bad' is a strong natural law rather than a political convenience, huh.
No. The cartoon isn't saying that western media is the same as Newton. It's contrasting western media with Newton: Newton smart, western media dumb.

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Guavanaut posted:

Maybe they should have had Copernicus looking through a telescope and 'Western Media' looking through the same telescope the wrong way around, theirs just comes across as "two people draw conclusions from very limited evidence, neither of which actually happened."
Yeah I didn't say it was a good cartoon lol

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Alhazred posted:

A reminder that this is how sinfest got started:


How old is the guy in the left supposed to be

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Fister Roboto posted:

Yeah no poo poo. But it doesn't even make sense as an anti-gun control cartoon because the correct response would to kill all the apex predators, ie get rid of all the guns.

I think Fishman doesn't "get" how Tinsley's dogwhistles work, that's why we keep seeing confused metaphors like this which as you say is an accidental pro gun ban cartoon.

He must have read some of the comic because he obviously knows Tinsley draws issues as dinosaurs and sharks and whatnot but he must not have understood what Tinsley was trying to say by doing it.

Minorities and foreigners are depicted as predator species facing us in a kill-or-be-killed situation to show how bleeding-heart liberals are too dumb to see that we just have to kill all Muslims to be safe. Stuff conservative like, guns for example, should be depicted as useful tools. The cartoon should show a caveman getting knocked out by a guy with a big club, and the foolish liberal telling everyone else they have to turn in clubs longer than six inches. That's the Tinsley way.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jan 23, 2023

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Dr. VooDoo posted:

I can’t think of a cartoon that perfectly encapsulates boomer mindset more than this. Service workers deserve nothing more than to be ground under heel and treated like dirt but also they should be grateful for their job and people should be jumping at the chance for these positions, there should be no worker shortages that impact my service time without any brain cells that can see why the first belief might cause the second
Yup "if you want higher pay, get a better job" was always just a way to blame service workers for their own conditions.

If service workers actually quit en masse and get better jobs those same people telling them to do it get piiiiiiiiiissed.

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Pants Donkey posted:

I’m still hung up on the fact that Rall thinks countries like the UK or France are fine? As only the US is incapable of revolution so the lack of any such upheaval in those countries means there’s no problems at all.

Well there are big demonstrations happening in France right now.

The UK is probably also incapable of revolution, they got it done exactly once and then 20 years later were right back to begging a family of inbred pedophiles to rule over them once again.

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Farecoal posted:

Didn't Cromwell try to genocide the Irish

What does that have to do with anything, did you mistake my comment for an endorsement of Cromwell?

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Farecoal posted:

Yes, my mistake

Ah okay no worries

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In addition to everything else that was mentioned, since Branco drew the flasher outside in public, the cartoon only makes sense if he thinks flashing is legal if a woman does it.

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Captain_Maclaine posted:

It's more falling back on the centuries-old conservative trope that most of "those people" actually are content and happy with the way things are, and it's only a subset of activist malcontents stirring up trouble. Most gay people are fine with things, it's just those trans weirdo making noise! Most women love being homemakers and wives, it's just NOM and other bra-burners riling them up! My slaves love being slaves, you goddamn Yankees just don't understand!
Also a persecution complex. Treating gay people decently inherently demeans straight people. If you include Jewish people in a holiday celebrate it's inherently an insult to Christians, etc

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Vib Rib posted:

Ah yes, a shaken, fearful woman turning to drugs peddled by the same people who instilled that fear in the first place. This is a good thing, apparently. Seeing her huffing from a gas tank in a "hopium den" is good.

Is it supposed to be good? The frogs are just sitting around in a haze telling each other they've already won instead of going out and overthrowing the government or whatever

Genuinely asking I cannot tell whether the drug den is supposed to be good or not

VitalSigns
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We're all talking about the frogs, but what I want to know is whether this forest Pan god is supposed to be a good guy or bad guy. Could really go either way:

Kills feds: good
Non-"woke": good
Non-Christian: bad
Probably into all-natural woo-woo cures: good
Fucks women: good
But not monogamously: bad
Fucks men too: bad
Unvaccinated: good
Greeks had some weird ideas about gender Tats would hate: bad
But Ishida could ignore that and make him a nature spirit mouthpiece for TERFy ideas about biological sex: good
No pants: bad

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:


Are you talking about the antler lady? Within the context of Sinfest she's good and has traditionally been used as a mouthpiece for TERF beliefs like every other good non-woke female character in Sinfest.
Yeah I was, didn't realize she's a recurring character

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Vib Rib posted:


I took it as a climate change thing but even then that's him tacitly admitting that it will kill us all.

It would work as a critique of liberals on climate change, just not a right-wing critique

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Pants Donkey posted:

Yeah, that Gamble is so disingenuous it makes me want to scream. If Biden had spent a dollar towards housing the homeless he’d be screaming about why it isn’t going into some shareholder’s pocket.

He even is screaming about it, the second panel has Biden talking about housing people in need but it's still bad because they're 💀MIGRANTS💀

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BonHair posted:

Hard to read this as anything other than China being the opposite of world peace.
I guess if you've never seen a pie chart before

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Microplastics posted:

It's actually a Venn diagram.

China is a subset of world peace?

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