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In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, what a maroon
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2023 04:19 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:45 |
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:In terms of multiple disasters, maybe not. But in terms of traumatic impact, yeah. I was trying so hard to remember who this was. All I could remember was that it was a college basketball player and it happened so long ago that it was where I learned what "collapsed" meant because I was that young.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2023 07:38 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Yeah the NFL sucks rear end, but I can't find a single thing to criticize in how they've handled the situation I went to the NCAA Football rules to see what they have for their rules and it would produce a nearly identical scenario. The officials are empowered to suspend play and resume play when "conditions are satisfactory." If conditions do not allow the game to resume, and this is where things have a bit of wiggle room that could produce a long interval, the terms must be agreed to before calling the game. There's four options: resume at a later date, use the existing score as a final score, forfeit, or no contest. That you have to decide what you're doing before making the announcement, even if it is a foregone conclusion (suppose something obvious like a major fire in the stadium), is going to introduce a period of ambiguous status. Early in a late season game and you might see some disagreements in how to proceed even if both sides don't want to play. I've seen the five minute warm up deployed after serious injury delays in college, but that doesn't exist in the rules by letter of the law. It seems to be a traditional "rule at the discretion of the officials," since they're empowered to have injury timeouts of whatever length they deem necessary, but also are required to keep players on the sideline during injury timeouts. Given that the NCAA rules seem unprepared for something like this too, it isn't a surprise that the NFL may have had trouble figuring out how to manage it.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2023 16:47 |
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Jarmak posted:I'll readily admit this particular empathy circuit in my brain is a little busted from my own traumatic experiences but this strikes me as a rather extreme reaction. Personal tragedies happen in sports all the time without the whole league coming to a halt. We'd be talking about the NFL treating this the same as 9/11. And, realistically, the only reason that they called the week after 9/11 was the enormous practical barrier of "you can't fly anywhere."
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2023 20:38 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:At least that's where I'm at. I didn't and still don't care about NASCAR, but the seemingly minor looking crash that killed Dale Earnhardt affected me in a way similar to this. What's odd to me is that Dale didn't affect me at all. Car racing is dangerous business and people get killed all the time. One weekend at San Marino killed more people on field than the NFL. But the NFL had like two million snaps in the last 50 years and literally tens of millions of chances for something like this to happen and it just didn't.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2023 02:36 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I guess it was because of all the insane crashes we've seen where someone walked away, and a seemingly minor wreck was deadly. I still don't understand what Star Trek engineering prevented Grosjean from being literally vaporized
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2023 05:32 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:
Don't discount fear too. There's some interesting papers out there about it. Avoidance rates in countries where the costs are much lower aren't all that different from countries with higher costs.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2023 17:53 |
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acidx posted:are we all having fun yet I'll have you know that I've never actually enjoyed a football game
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2023 20:54 |
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Jarmak posted:I have a clear memory of a "final frame" then a very clear memory of suddenly trying to figure out how I was on the floor and why my head hurt so bad. I remember seeing the rear door of the minivan coming down out of the corner of my eye, then seeing the sky and thinking "this parking lot hurts, why am I laying down?"
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2023 20:16 |
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:NYTimes has a copy of the radio traffic from the stadium if you are in to that https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/sports/football/damar-hamlin-response-audio-recording.html I'll listen to CVR and ATC traffic for plane crashes, but won't touch this.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2023 21:24 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:guys i'll listen to the play by play of 250 people dying in a fiery explosion, but one guy in cardiac arrest is too much The one I can compartmentalize into an cold, singular event and the other is a personal window into one man's tragedy. Plus I've long been fascinated by the engineering and problem solving of the whole thing.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2023 22:58 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:the reassuring part is they get less frequent over time, and the causes get more and more niche. in the older ones its poo poo like "no one maintained the wings for 3 years" and now its "3 pilots were all collectively idiots and all did all the wrong things and still they had a shot until they did another dumb thing" Yeah, we've pretty much reached a point where pilot error is largely the only cause. Barring freight operation and general aviation, which are very different.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2023 23:01 |
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beep by grandpa posted:asking if he won the game was pretty badass but i'm just saying he missed a huge opportunity that i'll have to take up where if i ever wake up in a hospital bed all kitted out to machines, my first words will be "where is padme? is she safe?" (if i ever get hosed up so bad i wake up in 2005) Two of the three times I've been put fully under for surgery or something, the first thing I said was a number. Apparently I was still counting down.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2023 04:03 |
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My dad had surgery and I was there when he was coming out. The nurse saw he was stirring and she asked him how he was doing. He slurred out "who are you?" and she replied "I'm your nurse Lisa." In his haze, he clearly misheard her as he angrily declared "Lethal? That's a terrible name for a nurse" before going back to sleep.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2023 05:57 |
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beep by grandpa posted:Hearing Kumaru Usman's recollection of being KO'd by a headkick this year and to the best of my recollection he described it like ; Paraphrased, but one of PSU's QBs decades ago described getting knocked out as "I dropped back, primary receiver covered, checked for the secondary, and then there was a doctor standing over me."
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2023 06:27 |
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TheKevman posted:Short of wrapping the players in bubble wrap, how do you propose this happens I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work either
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2023 00:35 |
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Grittybeard posted:You will not take Jai Alai away from me! (you should probably take that one first just in case) Mad Men completely ruined jai alai in my mind. I can't even hear the word without thinking about that little weirdo raving about his jai alai player crush
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2023 00:37 |
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LeeMajors posted:Those airplanes are designed for transporting people in a flying intensive care room. They're also strangely common. The little general aviation field I grew up next to had a couple of them a day, because it was easier than dealing with the congestion at PIT (which was USAir's main hub in those days) and closer in road miles to the specialist hospitals downtown. Even had one slide off the runway back in 2007 and take out the ILS transmitter. Luckily for the crew (no patient on board), it came to rest about 50 feet from the township fire station, who responded in as long as it takes to say "what the hell was that" and look out the window.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2023 15:49 |
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Crazy Ted posted:You telling me nobody ever ran around Fortnite with a combat knife in a Bills #32 jersey? I used to play hockey on Xbox Live as #16 Chuck Whitman. He was a sniper.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2023 16:27 |
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Pronger played for 12 more years after almost dying on the ice. Considering that was more than 750 games, the opportunity for a further injury was vastly greater than an NFL player could ever face (Brady has only appeared in 340ish games).
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2023 20:14 |
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You just do a lot of zamboni-ing. Seriously. It happened about 15 years ago to another guy and there was only like a 15 minute delay
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2023 21:30 |
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Come to think of it, I was at a minor league game where I saw the guys go into the corner, I followed the puck, and when I looked back, it was like a gallon jug of blood had exploded on the ice. No idea what happened and NO ONE SEEMED WORRIED. Nobody on the ice seemed to react or be injured. The only time I've ever seen so much was a deer getting vaporized by a tractor trailer. They just blew the play dead and mopped it up.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2023 21:36 |
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Toaster Beef posted:Yeah, that was Prothro. Career-ending injury. He's had 11 surgeries over the years to repair it, but it's still not back to 100%. Just loving heinous. poo poo, after that just give me a peg leg
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2023 19:57 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:45 |
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My work here is done.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2023 15:43 |