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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

so how long before the next debt ceiling crisis forces Biden to Mint the Coin?

Oh that sounds ideal, let's make a list of those people

. . .

That's why weirdos keep bringing up Fred Upton, because he was/is the personification of "generic republican" - but he is only being talked about because he just retired.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Randalor posted:

So why do the chaos caucus have so much pull anyways? Why would it be political suicide for an R representative from more purple or blue districts to threaten to cross the aisle and back Jefferies as a show of "I can be bipartisan and not just want to destroy civilization as we know it" if McCarthy keeps bending the knee more and more to the chaos caucus? Sure, people in deep red states may hate their guts, but they're not voting in the purple states anyways.

1. There really aren't any purple district republicans left. Not enough for them to ever go united to make that threat.
2. Backing any Dem for Speaker may not be writing your own tombstone, but it is close. Of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump the 2nd time, only 2 are still in the House. It will guarantee a primary fight for the next election, and that will weaken your chances of winning re-election no matter what.
3. Infighting with Republicans is bad. Working with Democrats is worse.

Unless you can convince everyone from something like The Tuesday Group to sign up (also of note alot of people in that wikipedia list are not coming back for 2023, or have significantly shifted views like Stefanik to stay relevant), and that would then make them all ranking Rep members in committees or something crazy like that...still no way it would happen.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Funnier option: 200 Republicans and 20 Democrats backing Upton or 200 Democrats and 20 Republicans backing Upton?

chaos mode: they back Kate Upton instead of Fred Upton

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