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What stops McCarthy from calling a voice vote and then claiming the Aye's have it? Does it have to be via button pushing or individually calling their votes?
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Harlock posted:The boats are burned. It's worked for Faenor. And Arthas. Who hasn't it worked for!?
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i say swears online posted:it would be very funny if boebert was explicitly referencing the silmarillion Presumably it's a reference to noted Imperialist Hernan Cortez during his conquest of Aztecs. TGLT posted:not like any historical figure is famous for burning boats to keep people from backing down. The thing is its funnier and entirely possible that they do means Arthas because (a) Enough Republicans are Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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We will fight them on the beaches, and on the landing grounds and on the hills, unless they give us terms, then maybe we won't fight them.
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Could they get a procedural ruling from the clerk to attempt to switch the vote to some kind of Ranked Voting with Instant Runoff? That might still not get to 218 but might speed up the process.
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Piell posted:Kevin McCarthy For some reason my brain farted and I thought Mc was his first name 
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Could they vote in Jeffries/McCarthy, get everyone properly seated, then vote of no-confidence? What happens? Do they get unseated? Can business resume without a speaker then?
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Jan 5, 2023 18:45
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21 Not McCarthy votes now?
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I wonder if McCarthy can try a gamble and call their bluff, announce everyone can freely vote for who they want and if this end up with someone having more votes than McCarthy he'll support them as Speaker, if not then everyone should support him and get it over with? Could Dems potentially pull a Lincoln, find vulnerable Republicans in Biden leaning districts, older closer to retirement aged Republicans, people who seem more into this for money and power and try to bribe them with positions in the Executive branch to switch to D, or to soft ball future Dem primaries? They just need 6 Republicans to switch or support Jefferies or some lesser number and some number of Present/Abstainations? If this clown show keeps going for long enough this has gotta get more possible right?
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Jan 5, 2023 19:33
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Youremother posted:McCarthy actively LOSING votes as time goes on ahahahaha this is it everybody, the American government ends here, not with a bang but a motion to adjourn. It was a fun experiment The government is not going to suddenly end.
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Regarding the voting in lockstep thing, I think it's more if Jefferies gets voted in as Speaker on a technicality then they'll vote together in a non confidence vote in lockstep. It's only if Republicans make an offer for a compromise moderate candidate or if Dems pull a Lincoln and get 6 repubs to defect who want off of this sinking ship that the current deadlock breaks if things continue as they are.
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Old Surly posted:Is it 5 or 6 non KMC votes that kills his chance? 6 I believe, so currently I think we need 3 more for this show to continue.
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Gosar didn't say anything if he's there.
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Piell posted:Trone had scheduled surgery and is now back. Did he get a new spine?
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How many of the holdouts have to be Present or Absent for KM to win with the current 214 aye votes assuming he can't get any, maybe at most 1, to vote for him? Or does Present not change the math?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:And the HFC is too crazy for Trump to back. Let that marinate for a while. It's more that Trump doesn't like backing Losers, if they were winners he'd back them.
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Essentially term limits would make it easier for lobbyists to further sink their teeth into people. e: Mandatory retirement ages might be alright through.
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OddObserver posted:In either case, if one doesn't want the lobbyist power, the limit has to be bootstrapped in a way that doesn't affect a very large portion of chamber at once, which is a little tricky, but maybe it can apply to oldest 10% each term for people who were in power when elected or something? You could probably introduce it with a gradual phase in effect, essentially stagger them similar to how Senate elections are staggered. So by State, by Election year Periods i.e anyone elected between 1970 and 1979 for example; or a mix so that some people might be forced into retirement without forcing everyone into retirement; Speaker exempted perhaps.
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Incumbents really have to gently caress up to get unseated by a challenger, or have their district so radically redrawn that their constituents aren't the same anymore. Forced retirement ages are a little better at letting in new blood; maybe combine it with more generous retirement benefits, structured so the earlier you retire when eligible the better the upfront benefits are.
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Jan 7, 2023 00:47
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Herstory Begins Now posted:how does a parallel line intersect Well parallel lines can only never intersect when assuming a evenly flat infinite plane; in our reality where space-time is affected by gravity space is not flat but can bend, which can result in parallel lines intersecting, particularly in wormholes and blackholes iirc; most euclidian geometry is only true on a specific local area.
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THE NAYS HAVE IT!? WTF IS HAPPENING!?
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For a glorious moment it was 217-217 and it was perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
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Caros posted:Gaetz walked up to him, Kevin got super excited and immediately changed his vote. Wait wait wait, but what if, this is Lucy yanking the football AGAIN!? 
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