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Oct 9, 2005


Main Paineframe posted:

He's an openly ambitious political weathervane who, by all accounts, will do drat near anything to gain power. He happily went MAGA went the Freedom Caucus was on the rise and Trump went up that escalator, but they're not convinced he'll be a reliable ally now that Trump's power has been shaken. And before Trump rose to power, he was heavily aligned with the old GOP leadership - including John Boehner, who was driven out of the speakership by the Freedom Caucus.

That describes most Republicans at this point. Stefanik positioned herself as a moderate before Trump.

These people don't really have a plan to govern anything, just an ambition to power worth any self-abasement to them.

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Virtually no one who knows her believes she has any genuine attachment to Trump-style populism — unlike Mr. Trump’s earliest supporters, for example, or media figures like the Fox host Tucker Carlson. Indeed, over dozens of interviews, former aides, advisers and friends going back to Ms. Stefanik’s Harvard days struggled to identify any of her deeply held political beliefs at all. Most recalled, instead, her generic loyalty to the Republican Party, her intense competitiveness and her unerring ability to absorb what she thought people around her wanted and to reflect it back at them. Eager to advance, skilled at impressing more powerful figures with her intelligence and work ethic, she has spent years embedding herself wherever the action seems to be at the time. “She knows exactly what she’s signed up for,” said Kate Yearwood Young, a former friend from Harvard. “There was no radicalization.”

I would almost applaud the move of cutting McCarthy's legs out if their motives made any sense. He's an idiot and bad politician even by Republican standards.

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Oct 9, 2005


Randalor posted:

How did McCarthy become the original frontrunner anyways? Just no one else wanted the job on the Republican side?

McCarthy succeeded two previous speakers who retired out of frustration with this exact state of affairs. Compared to those two, McCarthy is considered by just about everyone to be a goober, but he was minority leader, and no one else wants the job really.

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Main Paineframe posted:

This isn't like coalition formation. There's effectively two parties in the House. The Dems are voting too, but they don't have enough votes.

And we can't just redo the House elections. Aside from resignations and deaths, this is the House we're going to have for the next two years.

They have to keep trying forever, because there is no other resolution. Until someone, R or D, gets a majority of votes, there's no Speaker. And without a Speaker, the House can't do anything.

Also Democrats can just sit and vote as a bloc for their uncontroversial opinion of "a Democrat, lol" and the longer the Republicans can't elect a speaker with their majority, the worse they look.

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Oct 9, 2005


Popete posted:

Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate.

Scalise, probably.

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Oct 9, 2005


Youth Decay posted:

This is what he would do if he had balls.

Or any cunning

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