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Nodoze posted:Cousins is better than Carr. lol. Way to lose all creditability instantly. Stafford has never been good.
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Feb 14, 2023 21:47
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MrLogan posted:lol. Way to lose all creditability instantly. That is a wildly inaccurate statement YOLOsubmarine posted:Carr wasn’t terrible. He was worse than the last few years but still in the 10-15 range. Who is the top and who is the bottom code:Carr top, Russell Wilson bottom Nodoze fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Feb 14, 2023 21:47
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Stafford threw for 5k yards before he ever got to the Rams. He did that in Detroit which is insane. Then he finally goes to a team with a good coach and won the SB immediately. When Mahomes got in the league he mentioned his arm being like Stafford, not Brady or Manning. Stafford is really good.
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Feb 14, 2023 22:58
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MrLogan posted:lol. Way to lose all creditability instantly. Stafford carried the one team the refs hate more than the Raiders before he was finally allowed to escape and win a ring.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:02
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a neat cape posted:Stafford was awful before he got hurt this year. Maybe he got more hurt as the season went along but he was dealing with a mysterious elbow issue all year. It was a big storyline going into week 1. He and McVay kept insisting he could play through it but he very obviously could not. https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/9/8/23342994/matthew-stafford-injury-elbow-treatment-status-what-we-know
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Feb 14, 2023 23:18
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kiimo posted:Stafford threw for 5k yards before he ever got to the Rams. He did that in Detroit which is insane. Then he finally goes to a team with a good coach and won the SB immediately. I've been a fan of Stafford since his rookie season, because of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvIwyikbRU e. Oops mllaneza fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Feb 14, 2023 23:18
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mllaneza posted:I've been a fan of Stafford since his rookie season, because of this: I thought it was his left shoulder he injured. Either way Stafford is a tough SOB. Alas he thought he could tough out that injury in 2022 and he was wrong.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:24
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Nodoze posted:That is a wildly inaccurate statement 50% more TDs is a pretty big deal. He was top 15 in Yards, YPG, TDs, TD%. His completion percent tanked but you can probably attribute that at least partially to the new system. He wasn’t great but QB play also just kind of sucked this year so he’s still in the top half of the league.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:41
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Stafford, Dak, and Murray are great litmus tests. You know if someone says they are good QBs that they only pay attention to fanty. At least TFF is finally starting to come around on Murray.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:48
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Borsche69 posted:the number of nfl coaches not associated with college football is zero Only because the Colts didn't keep Jeff Saturday
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Feb 15, 2023 00:00
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MrLogan posted:Stafford has never been good. lmao
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Feb 15, 2023 00:06
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MrLogan posted:lol. Way to lose all creditability instantly. Wtf is this poo poo. Somebody needs a Staff infection.
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Feb 15, 2023 01:08
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LOL this poo poo is like mom and dad fighting in front of the kids
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Feb 15, 2023 01:19
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Dog Faced JoJo posted:LOL this poo poo is like mom and dad fighting in front of the kids It was supposed to include this screenshot too. I suck at computers
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Feb 15, 2023 01:24
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YOLOsubmarine posted:50% more TDs is a pretty big deal. He was top 15 in Yards, YPG, TDs, TD%. His completion percent tanked but you can probably attribute that at least partially to the new system. He wasn’t great but QB play also just kind of sucked this year so he’s still in the top half of the league. He has more passing TDs but he also had Adams and a better coach. Everything else is virtually identical. Their adjusted yards per attempt and net yards per attempt are basically the same.
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Feb 15, 2023 02:42
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Nodoze posted:He has more passing TDs but he also had Adams and a better coach. Everything else is virtually identical. Their adjusted yards per attempt and net yards per attempt are basically the same. Scoring points is a pretty important metric for a QB, I think. Also, you’ve got to be dumb as hell to think having Josh McDaniels as your head coach is a point in favor. He’s a clown.
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Feb 15, 2023 03:10
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Stafford gonna be quadriplegic by 40 if he keeps playing and really mashes that spinal cord nto oblivion
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Feb 15, 2023 03:26
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Scoring points is a pretty important metric for a QB, I think. Also, you’ve got to be dumb as hell to think having Josh McDaniels as your head coach is a point in favor. He’s a clown. You are really going to say that Hackett is an equivalent coach?
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Feb 15, 2023 12:54
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Can’t believe that leaked video of the refs chatting before the Super Bowl. Openly saying how erect they get calling penalties on Las Vegas
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Feb 15, 2023 13:01
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MrLogan posted:Stafford, Dak, and Murray are great litmus tests. You know if someone says they are good QBs that they only pay attention to fanty. Murray is probably not good, granted, but comparing Dak and Stafford to him is just nuts. Stafford spent years putting up huge numbers on the Detroit Goddamned Lions before winning a ring and Dak, while probably not a great QB, is definitely at least very goodish outside the playoffs.
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Feb 15, 2023 14:44
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I'm gonna want to see what Dak looks like next season before I go saying he's anything less than A Very Good Quarterback. If he keeps up the interceptions — especially in big moments — then it's worth revisiting, but I dunno, I fuckin' hate going up against him twice a year.
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Feb 15, 2023 14:58
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Toaster Beef posted:I'm gonna want to see what Dak looks like next season before I go saying he's anything less than A Very Good Quarterback. If he keeps up the interceptions — especially in big moments — then it's worth revisiting, but I dunno, I fuckin' hate going up against him twice a year. I agree, but like I said comparing him to Kyler Murray is nutso.
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Feb 15, 2023 15:20
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I agree, but like I said comparing him to Kyler Murray is nutso. What’s his k/d in CoD?
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Feb 15, 2023 15:23
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Nodoze posted:You are really going to say that Hackett is an equivalent coach? Hackett was getting called one of the worst, most unqualified coaches of all time a few weeks into his first season, and people were perfectly justified in doing that. Being better than him isn't even clearing a low bar, it's walking over a buried sewer pipe. Doesn't mean McDaniels is anywhere close to good himself.
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Feb 15, 2023 16:31
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Black Lighter posted:Hackett was getting called one of the worst, most unqualified coaches of all time a few weeks into his first season, and people were perfectly justified in doing that. Being better than him isn't even clearing a low bar, it's walking over a buried sewer pipe. Doesn't mean McDaniels is anywhere close to good himself. Pretty much. Hackett and McDaniels both took established QBs and made them look much worse. Hackett did a more thorough job of ruining a better QB but the difference between them is magnitude, not direction. They were both net drains on their offenses.
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Feb 15, 2023 16:45
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I agree, but like I said comparing him to Kyler Murray is nutso. Kyler is closer to 2022 Russ than he is Dak. Kyler has very little aptitude for deep passing. He misses deep a lot and even with good players doesn't produce. He's better middle of the field than Russ though and he can also still move around... Post injury that's going to be what to look out for. His offensive style would work fine if the offense was designed to capitalize on the skillset he actually has. But I don't think Murray is ever going to be a QB that carries his team to wins. The Dak hate feels like correcting the Dak love from previous seasons. He's going to have a bad season next year and that take is going to get stronger.
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Feb 15, 2023 16:50
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Hackett did a more thorough job of ruining a better QB Lol you just need a coach that will Let Russ Cook I guess
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Feb 15, 2023 17:15
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How can anyone look at what Geno and the hawks did this year with a young and bad defense and still think Weirdo Russ is worth it
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Feb 15, 2023 17:17
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:How can anyone look at what Geno and the hawks did this year with a young and bad defense and still think Weirdo Russ is worth it Why do you think Payton is bringing in Taysom?
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Feb 15, 2023 17:18
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Forrest on Fire posted:Kyler is closer to 2022 Russ ... Kyler has very little aptitude for deep passing. He misses deep a lot and even with good players doesn't produce. 
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Feb 15, 2023 17:20
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:How can anyone look at what Geno and the hawks did this year with a young and bad defense and still think Weirdo Russ is worth it Nobody does, but Denver is stuck with him so they just need to hope it was a very off year.
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Feb 15, 2023 18:03
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Forrest on Fire posted:But I don't think Murray is ever going to be a QB that carries his team to wins. I'm not sold on him being my franchise QB for a decade, but if you don't think he can drag his team to some wins, you're insane. Just look at the end of that Raiders OT game this year. edit: start at 7:20 in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5ko_NNMuPE&t=446s The dude has some legit talent. Shame about the COD though. Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Feb 15, 2023 18:07
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Murray just strikes me as a player who will always be wildly inconsistent. And it's hard to win like that.
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Feb 15, 2023 18:09
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:How can anyone look at what Geno and the hawks did this year with a young and bad defense and still think Weirdo Russ is worth it Who said that? All I said is Russ was a better QB than Carr before this year.
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Feb 15, 2023 18:21
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I'm not sold on him being my franchise QB for a decade, but if you don't think he can drag his team to some wins, you're insane. Just look at the end of that Raiders OT game this year. I mean enough to offset the games where he can't hit a flat route. He has amazing games against absolute dogshit competition, and the second he's a focal point by a decent defensive team or scheme he tends to vanish
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Feb 15, 2023 18:22
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Mr. Nice! posted:Why do you think Payton is bringing in Taysom? I wish.
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Feb 15, 2023 18:36
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Mr. Nice! posted:Why do you think Payton is bringing in Taysom? Do it payton, give the Broncos next available first for taysom and I'll forgive this little excursion that's taking you quite a while to pick up some milk and cigarettes.
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Feb 15, 2023 19:21
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really queer Christmas posted:Do it payton, give the Broncos next available first for taysom and I'll forgive this little excursion that's taking you quite a while to pick up some milk and cigarettes. If any picks are exchanged it's the Saints sending one with Taysom to Denver to take his contract. 
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Feb 15, 2023 19:47
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Taysom's kind of a punchline, especially with his contract, but hilariously he's still one of the best weapons on the Saints, if only because opposing defenses' brains just shut off whenever he's on the field.
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Feb 15, 2023 20:24
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Honestly if they don’t land a QB in FA or the draft, I think I’ve fallen into the “ehh gently caress it” category and let him run the offense one year as a true QB. (Assuming they use him as a running QB, not a pocket passer) What are we going to get, worse?
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Feb 15, 2023 20:55
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