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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

Ever since seeing the name on a war memorial in Inverness I've always been partial to Twatt. There's actually a couple of Twatts, one on Orkney and one on Shetland.

Luckily the Irish will always have Muff, coastal town in Donegal with a popular diving club no less.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Please enjoy this map full of funny old names for places that I finally managed to get a readable picture of.
As someone posted the colour one in the maps thread:

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.


I've been into The Devil's Arse! It's a cave.

Highly recommend it.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

WhatEvil posted:

I've been into The Devil's Arse! It's a cave.

Highly recommend it.

I'm fond of Tokers Green.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokers_Green

haakman
May 5, 2011
Goons, I could do with some advice/a soundboard if possible?

My wife and I purchased a leasehold in 2019. The freeholder is the Council. In 2021 we received a bill for 5 grand out of nowhere for maintenance costs. After much investigation it turns out this was for work undertaken in 2015/2016. The council didputed the cost of this work (for communal areas) and only settled in 2020 - thus the final invoice to the council was raised, paid and recharged in 2020/2021. The council are insisting that as we are the current leaseholder we are liable.

We contacted our solicitors who acted for us and they confirmed the enquiries to the seller were blank on this matter. One even asks if you are aware of any works which invoices haven't been raised for!

Our solicitor then calmly washed their hands of any liability and has now asked us to litigate against the previous owner

Finally on closer inspection of the purchase documents I can see that the previous owner *did* say they had paid for works on the balcony (false, but not blank) - did my solicitor drop a bollock here?

I'm sure it is all perfectly legal in this hellcountry but it just seems drastically unfair that we can be lumbered for a 5k debt for something we had no idea about - we would've just bought a different house!

haakman fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 30, 2023

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Nilbop posted:

I was reading a book on Hugh O’Neil and the Nine Years War and if it’s anything to go by the English presumed Ireland was a depopulated wasteland for much, much longer than this.

And then it turned out O’Neill had an income similar to the entire Tudor dynasty he was fighting.

I did a module on historical cartography in college and it was amazing seeing how long it took for the English to properly map the west of Ireland. East cost looked perfect and the west looked like it was melting.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001


Right next to Pizza Union

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/edwinhayward/status/1663631712482476038

:toot:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

haakman posted:

Goons, I could do with some advice/a soundboard if possible?

My wife and I purchased a leasehold in 2019. The freeholder is the Council. In 2021 we received a bill for 5 grand out of nowhere for maintenance costs. After much investigation it turns out this was for work undertaken in 2015/2016. The council didputed the cost of this work (for communal areas) and only settled in 2020 - thus the final invoice to the council was raised, paid and recharged in 2020/2021. The council are insisting that as we are the current leaseholder we are liable.

We contacted our solicitors who acted for us and they confirmed the enquiries to the seller were blank on this matter. One even asks if you are aware of any works which invoices haven't been raised for!

Our solicitor then calmly washed their hands of any liability and has now asked us to litigate against the previous owner

Finally on closer inspection of the purchase documents I can see that the previous owner *did* say they had paid for works on the balcony (false, but not blank) - did my solicitor drop a bollock here?

I'm sure it is all perfectly legal in this hellcountry but it just seems drastically unfair that we can be lumbered for a 5k debt for something we had no idea about - we would've just bought a different house!

I'm not a lawyer and in fact am seeing a solicitor next week about s20 notices but anyway, I found this:

https://www.lease-advice.org/fact-sheet/service-charges/

quote:

"Can a landlord backdate service charge?
Section 20B of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 states that a landlord cannot recover service charge costs that were incurred more than 18 months before he formally demands them."

Hate to say it as you've already been involved with a solicitor but you might need specialized landlord/tenant solicitor advice on this one (at £225+VAT per hour & £22.50 per letter or phone call!)

When I bought my flat, the service charges were over 12 months in arrears and I looked it up and if the vendor didn't cough up, then I would be liable & lease subject to forfeit. Fortunately the arrears were cleared by the vendor's solicitors after completion.


Ed: Huge service charges out of the blue are one of the dangers of buying a leasehold property where the local council is the landlord. Friend's flat - council landlord - hers were about £20 pa (I'm not kidding) then she got hit with a £10k bill as her share of external works to the building (and we're talking about 20 years ago now so fk knows what that would be these days!) as they had no sinking fund at all.


Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 31, 2023

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

pardon me if i'm misremembering, i'm an american and may be mixing up players in british politics, but wasn't starmer vocally undermining corbyn during the last general election for not making an "undo brexit" plank the centerpiece of the party platform? and corbyn was taking heat from centrists in the party about secretly wanting brexit, and the issue split away a major chunk of the party and led to a massive rout at the polls? i have a strong impression this happened, but that makes this rhetoric shockingly brazen. what other conclusion could you draw but that he knowingly tanked the general election if he can so blithely dismiss the issue a mere 4 years later while many of the predicted consequences are coming to pass

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

haakman posted:

One even asks if you are aware of any works which invoices haven't been raised for!


Finally on closer inspection of the purchase documents I can see that the previous owner *did* say they had paid for works on the balcony (false, but not blank) - did my solicitor drop a bollock here?

It sounds like they may have done. What's the precise wording of the question though?

We're in the process of selling our council-freeheld leasehold flat so we might be on the other end of this kind of thing. We get section 20 notices a lot and I usually just file them into a drawer. If there's no legal requirement for me to be aware of all such notices then you might be poo poo of luck. But if there is (and I genuinely don't know yet but I'm sure I'll be finding out soon), then yeah your seller is liable so you might have to take action against them.

I'm not sure what expectation there is for a solicitor when reviewing the seller's answer on section 20s. Do they have to do a lot of digging to confirm it's all correct or just confirm they've provided an answer?

Your solicitor should have a complaints process, check your documents. I think there's an ombudsman you can approach. Maybe do that before pursuing the seller.

At least you can pursue £5000 under small claims court.

Edit: speaking of major works



Could be worse!

Microplastics fucked around with this message at 07:04 on May 31, 2023

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
The other conclusion one could surmise is that Sir Keir Starmer is a goon-for-hire who does whatever the people financially backing him demand.
At the time, they wanted to get rid of Corbyn, so he undermined Corbyn's position on Brexit by leaking stories to the press, knowing full well that his party leader wouldn't hang him out to dry.
His backers then needed someone in charge of Labour who wouldn't rock the neoliberal boat, so he told a pack of lies to win the leadership campaign and has spent the last 4 years merrily rowing back on basically everything he said at the time.
He's now in a position where it's no longer clear that Labour would outright win the next general election because he and Labour are so devoid of ideology and good intentions that even people who don't follow politics can spot the brainworms so he's having to start rowing back even more on the kind of topic he knows is far more dangerous (because the 'liberal' media actually care about this one) - bRexiT. But there's no actual talent existing either in him, or in his staff, so you get whatever kind of word salad that quote is.

But yeah, there's a large cohort of voices within Labour who echo the war criminal Tony Blair and his 'better a Tory election win than a left-wing Labour win' anti-ethos.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
On the subject of our awful leasehold system (don't buy leasehold)

The committee set up to investigate reforms hasn't met for over a year

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/31/uks-commonhold-council-on-home-ownership-laws-has-not-met-for-over-a-year

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



Why would you have both a lunch to be eaten and dinner money to be nicked?

In that context lunch and dinner are clearly both names for the meal in the middle of the school day.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Microplastics posted:

I'm not sure what expectation there is for a solicitor when reviewing the seller's answer on section 20s. Do they have to do a lot of digging to confirm it's all correct or just confirm they've provided an answer?

Afaik the solicitor just has to make sure that the seller has answered the question and signed the statement affirming that their answers are true and comprehensive. The solicitor doesn't do any digging: if it subsequently turns out that the seller was lying, or omitting material information, the liability is on the seller.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I suppose it's the first time that sir keith has vocally opposed a white supremacist group, so at least there's that :v:

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few



I can excuse white supremacy and neoliberalism, but I draw the line at supporting Brexit

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

mrpwase posted:

I can excuse white supremacy and neoliberalism, but I draw the line at supporting Brexit

centrism.txt

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


"the problems are bad but their causes...their causes are very good"

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


GhostofJohnMuir posted:

pardon me if i'm misremembering, i'm an american and may be mixing up players in british politics, but wasn't starmer vocally undermining corbyn during the last general election for not making an "undo brexit" plank the centerpiece of the party platform? and corbyn was taking heat from centrists in the party about secretly wanting brexit, and the issue split away a major chunk of the party and led to a massive rout at the polls? i have a strong impression this happened, but that makes this rhetoric shockingly brazen. what other conclusion could you draw but that he knowingly tanked the general election if he can so blithely dismiss the issue a mere 4 years later while many of the predicted consequences are coming to pass

He was important in pushing for a second referendum, which eventually was in Labours manifesto in 2019. There was plenty of hard core remainers who were upset that labour was doing anything other than unilaterally cancelling brexit who thought Kier was more trustworthy on brexit than Corbyn, and labours Brexit policy was muddled throughout 2019 because they needed to please both sides, which ended up with Labour bleeding votes both ways in 2019.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Centrable Sensualism

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Reminder that Kieth only won the leadership because people who voted Corbyn in 2015 & 2016 voted for him despite him quitting the Shadow Cabinet in the chicken coup, despite his time as DPP

To quote a wise man "LOL. LMAO"

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

forkboy84 posted:

"LOL. LMAO"



LOL. LMAO

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Totally off topic, but anyone going to UK Gaming Expo this weekend? I’m going to be helping run the UKSBS Starship Bridge sim in the Hilton but also have lots of downtime with nothing planned, and would be very up for chilling with like minded individuals over games/pints/whatever.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

brexit was the first time a significant chunk of the electorate lost* an election so no wonder their brains broke

*they may have voted for a losing party but their interests were looked after

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Camrath posted:

Totally off topic, but anyone going to UK Gaming Expo this weekend? I’m going to be helping run the UKSBS Starship Bridge sim in the Hilton but also have lots of downtime with nothing planned, and would be very up for chilling with like minded individuals over games/pints/whatever.

I wish. My big gaming holiday is Spiel in October, and I've never found time or cash to do UKGE as well. Enjoy yourself though.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

haakman posted:


House stuff


May not be entirely helpful to you but when we sold our old leasehold flat our solicitor required us to deposit a sum with them (~6 months service charge) in case any arrears were raised by the buyer. This was despite us having given them the receipts for the service charge paid.

They said they would hold onto it for 6 months and return it after. It might be worth chasing the other side's conveyancers?

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Z the IVth posted:

May not be entirely helpful to you but when we sold our old leasehold flat our solicitor required us to deposit a sum with them (~6 months service charge) in case any arrears were raised by the buyer. This was despite us having given them the receipts for the service charge paid.

They said they would hold onto it for 6 months and return it after. It might be worth chasing the other side's conveyancers?

It sounds like a loving shitshow in the variety of different ways this gets done.

We sold our leashold flat, with a oval office of a freeholder who ignored the conveyancer's requests for confirmation we were up to date with payments. Instead he said that he'd talk to them for £250. So the conveyancer got the go ahead to declare him an absent freeholder and provided indemnity insurance to the buyer.

So his obstinacy got him hosed.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Meanwhile, in America...

https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1663697012263354368?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He is survived by his wife and 80-120 children.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009


Doctors flying small planes is a statistically bad combination, one skillset does not transfer to the other. :rolleyes:

edit: he was a passenger, but my post is still accurate. :iiam:

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Reminds me of when Farage crashed his plane.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Skull Servant posted:

Reminds me of when Farage crashed his plane.

Yeah they're both clearly massive wankers.


Anyway, always good to take time out of one's day and recall those hilarious pictures

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/LetsStopC9/status/1663799202047049731

There's a growing number of British citizens who have been rendered stateless, and the entire situation just blows my mind...

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Did they ever solve the Windrush situation and brought those people home, or are they still waiting to come back?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


rest in piss Rape E. Coyote

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1663814497130147841
So not only do his shoes and trousers not fit, neither do his glasses. I'd have thought that a billionaire might be able to afford items that fit his small body.

happyhippy posted:

Did they ever solve the Windrush situation and brought those people home, or are they still waiting to come back?

That was completely solved, just like Grenfell and institutional racism in general

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
This confirms my theory that Rishi is AI's creation, it also explains why his hands look weird.

With Keef there never was any doubt.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That looks like an AI drawing.

He knows how to wear glasses, he has glasses that fit, I've seen photos


Either reality is going wrong, he's doing it on purpose to distract from everything else he's doing on purpose, or that video is a deepfake.

Show your hands Rishi!

efb

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