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Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Hey everyone. Please read the rules in the OP. :thanks:


Main rules:

1. Bloodthirst/War Porn: Reveling in the death/misfortune of soldiers or civilians is explicitly and definitively punishable by probation or ban. Please remember that it's human beings on both sides of this conflict. War is not good and people getting hurt and dying is not good, even if it's people we don't like. Don't wish death on people, wish for Russia to pack up its poo poo and go home and work backwards from there. Horndogging for war materiel is weird, don't do it. You've been warned.

2. Posting about posters: NO DISCUSSION OF OTHER FORUMS OR THEIR POSTERS IN THIS THREAD. This will be strictly enforced via time off and/or bans depending how severe the violation is. This includes trying to be cheeky and sly about "some other forums" or "other people on SA" or something along those lines. Everyone knows what you mean, don't try to skirt the rules with vaguery.

3. Accusations and Brigading: No more accusing other posters or forums of being genocide deniers, warmongers, Nazis, collaborators, Russian shills, war fetishists, etc. here without actual bona fide proof. Flinging around words like nazi/tankie/fascist/bloodluster shuts down conversation and makes the thread worse for everyone. This shouldn't need to be said, but don't brigade or taunt other forums or posters. Attempting to troll/concern troll/brigade this thread will get you a threadban and posting in it afterwards will be a $10 fee. If you have an issue with the thread, PM a mod or IK, don't threadshit.

4. This is not D&D: Normal GBS rules still apply. Some people may shitpost, some people may post interesting information, some may just be wondering what the hell is going on. These are all valid ways of posting. We're not going to be enforcing D&D style rules here.

5. No bigotry. Don't post bigotry. No generalizations. No "all Russians are culpable" or "all Ukrainians are Nazis" posts. Using the term 'orcs' or 'hohols' falls into this category.

6. No more reddit-style content garbage. NAFO poo poo and the like is generally cringey and it's just boring white noise. Things that make light of the extremely serious nature of this conflict aren't going to be allowed. Putin Monkey is still okay though, as it was valid before this war even started.

7. No passive voice fear-baiting. Posts like "Don't go on twitter, you guys don't wanna see this horrible video of people getting blown up" is just trying to let people know that you saw some gore and you're hyped up about it. No one needs to know that it's out there at this point. If you want to genuinely warn people about this, message a mod or IK and we'll post it for you.

--

Notes on content warnings and what's OK to post in here
- Mental Health warning: we're discussing war and war includes discussions about violence, death, and possibly war crimes committed.
- DO NOT POST CONTENT WITH DEAD BODIES / POOLS OF BLOOD / GORE / DEATH / PEOPLE DYING / ETC. Nothing :nws:, :nms: that is combat-footage related. This really can't be said enough times. There is a very high threshold for "newsworthy" violent content. If you are unsure if your content could be on the nightly news, you should refrain from posting it and ask a mod or IK beforehand. Things like HIMARS firing or the aftermath of destroyed civilian infrastructure are allowed.
- Examples of videos or pictures that are okay to post: Soldiers driving or walking around talking about the situation on the ground, analysis of the war as it stands today, feel-good stories about puppies and kittens being rescued, people moving in or moving out of Ukraine, John Deere Tractor towing advertisements, financial and military support projects by other countries, changes in leadership, some guy in Ukraine calling Putin an rear end in a top hat, phone calls between Russia soldiers and others (with content warnings), etc.
- Always include a brief description with your link and just don’t spam poo poo. It doesn’t need to be a play by play but something someone can read and determine whether or not they want to see it.
If you don't want the link to auto-embed, uncheck the "automatically parse URL" button below the text field.
- Videos of torture/mutilation of soldiers or civilians are not to be posted or linked in the thread at any time for any reason. If you do you will be taking a long posting break and will be paying 10 dollars or risking your account.
- News coverage can be linked with appropriate content warnings and tags, but don't link anything that shows things in the above content warning, i.e. gore, dead bodies, etc. without mod approval beforehand.
- If you see something that is not following the above guidelines report it and/or PM myself, one of the IKs, or an admin. We will take a look at it and deal with the post as seems appropriate.

If you aren't sure whether or not you should post something, hold off and then DM one of the IKs and we'll let you know ASAP

Make use of the report button: We count on the community to help us out in this. We do take every report into consideration, and we would encourage you to use it if you think rules are being violated. Please don't report people who just disagree with you. That's petty and dumb. If you see a reply you don't like, call out specific posts, not the whole thread.

These rules are subject to change, so please check back every so often. We want GBS to be a great community, even in the midst of all that's going on. If you have any concerns/suggestions/complaints about the rules please PM one of the IKs/mods/admins. We want this thread to stay on topic and be a relatively chill place to read and post about the war. Don't gently caress that up for everyone, we're all going to try and do better. We discussed the rules in SAD and solicited feedback from the D&D and GiP threads as well. If you have any questions about the rules of this OP, please post them in SAD's general chat thread or create a new thread. Thanks!

:siren: For your consideration, here are some anonymized examples of how not to post:

quote:

drat that missile goes 550km? Okay now I'm hard

quote:

lol Hopefully this leads to more mobiks being turned into ground meat

quote:

I'd rather not engage with a forum full of genocide deniers

quote:

I sincerely wish all Russian invaders die, and there’s not a loving thing wrong with that. gently caress em🖕🖕





:byetankie:

Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Sep 12, 2023

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EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
gently caress Putin.

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting
This again?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Hello

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

We are back at it.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
:firstpost:

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
:secondpost:

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The situation at bakhmut appears to be grim. The bridge is leading to the east of town have been destroyed as Ukraine continues to move troops to the west side of town. Now there's a pretty large water crossing on the east side and I would surmise that Russia is going to close in the pincers instead of going off frontal assault on this but that could definitely be wrong.

Solov almost got killed in vuhledar. This is important because he's one of Putin's leading propaganda mouthpieces. So for him to literally almost get shelled is quite interesting in comparison to Biden rolling up to Kyiv in a train and hanging out. Aswell as Zelensky visiting the Frontlines with no reprisal.

I doubt that the ukrainians were specifically targeting him.


In other news and kadyrov apparently is having a crisis of the kidneys. People are claiming that he has been poisoned. As the kidneys backup once the liver starts to fail it could be other things.

With this poisoning we could see a reconcentration of power however this may not be by Putin exactly but by other elements in the Russian government who are trying to solidify their grasp on the future post Putin Russia.

More time will tell.

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Putin pooped his pants

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Me too

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Let's have a clean and friendly war, lads.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Grrrround floor

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



EorayMel posted:

gently caress Putin.

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Putin is a bullshit and so are his friends

His judo is weak and he has no hair. What a piece of poo poo

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010






late is v.fashionable

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



putin bad

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
Slava Ukraini war thread

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
FIRST PAGE

Toxic Mental posted:

Hey everyone. Please read the rules in the OP. :thanks:

Main rules:

1. Bloodthirst/War Porn: Reveling in the death/misfortune of soldiers or civilians is explicitly and definitively punishable by probation or ban. Please remember that it's human beings on both sides of this conflict. War is not good and people getting hurt and dying is not good, even if it's people we don't like. Don't wish death on people, wish for Russia to pack up its poo poo and go home and work backwards from there. Horndogging for war materiel is weird, don't do it. You've been warned.

2. Posting about posters: NO DISCUSSION OF OTHER FORUMS OR THEIR POSTERS IN THIS THREAD. This will be strictly enforced via time off and/or bans depending how severe the violation is. This includes trying to be cheeky and sly about "some other forums" or "other people on SA" or something along those lines. Everyone knows what you mean, don't try to skirt the rules with vaguery.

3. Accusations and Brigading: No more accusing other posters or forums of being genocide deniers, warmongers, Nazis, collaborators, Russian shills, war fetishists, etc. here without actual bona fide proof. Flinging around words like nazi/tankie/fascist/bloodluster shuts down conversation and makes the thread worse for everyone. This shouldn't need to be said, but don't brigade or taunt other forums or posters. Attempting to troll/concern troll/brigade this thread will get you a threadban and posting in it afterwards will be a $10 fee. If you have an issue with the thread, PM a mod or IK, don't threadshit.

4. This is not D&D: Normal GBS rules still apply. Some people may shitpost, some people may post interesting information, some may just be wondering what the hell is going on. These are all valid ways of posting. We're not going to be enforcing D&D style rules here.

5. No bigotry. Don't post bigotry. No generalizations. No "all Russians are culpable" posts. Using the term 'orcs' or 'hohols' falls into this category.

6. No more reddit-style content garbage. NAFO poo poo and the like is generally cringey and it's just boring white noise. Things that make light of the extremely serious nature of this conflict aren't going to be allowed. Putin Monkey is still okay though, as it was valid before this war even started.

7. No passive voice fear-baiting. Posts like "Don't go on twitter, you guys don't wanna see this horrible video of people getting blown up" is just trying to let people know that you saw some gore and you're hyped up about it. No one needs to know that it's out there at this point. If you want to genuinely warn people about this, message a mod or IK and we'll post it for you.

--

Notes on content warnings and what's OK to post in here
- Mental Health warning: we're discussing war and war includes discussions about violence, death, and possibly war crimes committed.
- DO NOT POST CONTENT WITH DEAD BODIES / POOLS OF BLOOD / GORE / DEATH / PEOPLE DYING / ETC. Nothing :nws:, :nms: that is combat-footage related. This really can't be said enough times. There is a very high threshold for "newsworthy" violent content. If you are unsure if your content could be on the nightly news, you should refrain from posting it and ask a mod or IK beforehand. Things like HIMARS firing or the aftermath of destroyed civilian infrastructure are allowed.
- Examples of videos or pictures that are okay to post: Soldiers driving or walking around talking about the situation on the ground, analysis of the war as it stands today, feel-good stories about puppies and kittens being rescued, people moving in or moving out of Ukraine, John Deere Tractor towing advertisements, financial and military support projects by other countries, changes in leadership, some guy in Ukraine calling Putin an rear end in a top hat, phone calls between Russia soldiers and others (with content warnings), etc.
- Always include a brief description with your link and just don’t spam poo poo. It doesn’t need to be a play by play but something someone can read and determine whether or not they want to see it.
If you don't want the link to auto-embed, uncheck the "automatically parse URL" button below the text field.
- Videos of torture/mutilation of soldiers or civilians are not to be posted or linked in the thread at any time for any reason. If you do you will be taking a long posting break and will be paying 10 dollars or risking your account.
- News coverage can be linked with appropriate content warnings and tags, but don't link anything that shows things in the above content warning, i.e. gore, dead bodies, etc. without mod approval beforehand.
- If you see something that is not following the above guidelines report it and/or PM myself, one of the IKs, or an admin. We will take a look at it and deal with the post as seems appropriate.

If you aren't sure whether or not you should post something, hold off and then DM one of the IKs and we'll let you know ASAP

Make use of the report button: We count on the community to help us out in this. We do take every report into consideration, and we would encourage you to use it if you think rules are being violated. Please don't report people who just disagree with you. That's petty and dumb. If you see a reply you don't like, call out specific posts, not the whole thread.

These rules are subject to change, so please check back every so often. We want GBS to be a great community, even in the midst of all that's going on. If you have any concerns/suggestions/complaints about the rules please PM one of the IKs/mods/admins. We want this thread to stay on topic and be a relatively chill place to read and post about the war. Don't gently caress that up for everyone, we're all going to try and do better.

:siren: For your consideration, here are some anonymized examples of how not to post:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIR3grlLmmc

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Horse cum

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Tai posted:

Horse cum

not thanks I'm full

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
I'm not reading the whole OP, whats the haps on saying the LOTR word, is that off the table still?

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice
I would also like to say that Putin is a bad man.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Solov almost got killed in vuhledar. This is important because he's one of Putin's leading propaganda mouthpieces. So for him to literally almost get shelled is quite interesting in comparison to Biden rolling up to Kyiv in a train and hanging out. Aswell as Zelensky visiting the Frontlines with no reprisal.
Even Russian high command in 2023 wasn't dumb enough to attack Kyiv while the sitting US President was visiting. All that would invite is some degree of increased US involvement.

lifetime supply of Pocky
Aug 19, 2003

Toxic Mental posted:

Hey everyone. Please read the rules in the OP. :thanks:

Main rules:

1. Bloodthirst/War Porn: Reveling in the death/misfortune of soldiers or civilians is explicitly and definitively punishable by probation or ban. Please remember that it's human beings on both sides of this conflict. War is not good and people getting hurt and dying is not good, even if it's people we don't like. Don't wish death on people, wish for Russia to pack up its poo poo and go home and work backwards from there. Horndogging for war materiel is weird, don't do it. You've been warned.


Sorry Toxic Mental, but the admins are loving idiots. This rule is stupid, and repeating it is stupid.

I sincerely wish all Russian invaders die, and there’s not a loving thing wrong with that. gently caress em🖕🖕

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Toxic Mental posted:

Hey everyone. Please read the rules in the OP. :thanks:

Main rules:

1. Bloodthirst/War Porn: Reveling in the death/misfortune of soldiers or civilians is explicitly and definitively punishable by probation or ban. Please remember that it's human beings on both sides of this conflict. War is not good and people getting hurt and dying is not good, even if it's people we don't like. Don't wish death on people, wish for Russia to pack up its poo poo and go home and work backwards from there. Horndogging for war materiel is weird, don't do it. You've been warned.
This infers that Ukraine would be doing something that would cause Russia to need to leave, like using weaponry against human beings originated from Russia. That seems pretty bloodlusty. Can the OP please tone it down a bit?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Nooner posted:

I'm not reading the whole OP, whats the haps on saying the LOTR word, is that off the table still?

Please don't call Putin a greedy dwarf

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Nooner posted:

I'm not reading the whole OP, whats the haps on saying the LOTR word, is that off the table still?

It's off the table. No bigotry and dehumanizing language

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Welcome back, old friend. Here's some content.

Here's noted Tank Grandpa David Willey talking about five of the tanks being sent to Ukraine - I don't think there's any combat footage, it all looks like training and Tank Days footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vvG64vqLrw


In Part 2, David Willey recaps some of the war and addresses claims that the tank is obsolete and propaganda from both sides - this one DOES have some combat footage but mostly quick clips from a distance, no bodies - There are two 'kamikaze drone' clips, and the one at the end has some dudes visible before it cuts So maybe close when the Patreon logo pops up. I'm posting it mostly because he raises some good points and figure if a museum that deals with this poo poo professionally decided it could be shown on Youtube, it should be OK here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmWE83P2LA

And if you don't want to watch all that, here's an important part where he quotes from a Royal United Services Institute report on the dangers of getting High On Your Own Supply (of Propaganda):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmWE83P2LA&t=838s

And on a much lighter note, here's Max Miller making Ukrainian Borshch and talking about the history of Ukraine and borshch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DPu-Ve_luU

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

In other news and kadyrov apparently is having a crisis of the kidneys. People are claiming that he has been poisoned. As the kidneys backup once the liver starts to fail it could be other things.

With this poisoning we could see a reconcentration of power however this may not be by Putin exactly but by other elements in the Russian government who are trying to solidify their grasp on the future post Putin Russia.

My impression is that the FSB's poisoning methods tend to be a bit more decisive, so I'm not sure how officially sanctioned this was. I imagine he has no shortage of enemies though.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The situation at bakhmut appears to be grim. The bridge is leading to the east of town have been destroyed as Ukraine continues to move troops to the west side of town. Now there's a pretty large water crossing on the east side and I would surmise that Russia is going to close in the pincers instead of going off frontal assault on this but that could definitely be wrong.

Solov almost got killed in vuhledar. This is important because he's one of Putin's leading propaganda mouthpieces. So for him to literally almost get shelled is quite interesting in comparison to Biden rolling up to Kyiv in a train and hanging out. Aswell as Zelensky visiting the Frontlines with no reprisal.

I doubt that the ukrainians were specifically targeting him.


In other news and kadyrov apparently is having a crisis of the kidneys. People are claiming that he has been poisoned. As the kidneys backup once the liver starts to fail it could be other things.

With this poisoning we could see a reconcentration of power however this may not be by Putin exactly but by other elements in the Russian government who are trying to solidify their grasp on the future post Putin Russia.

More time will tell.

Russia also attempted a massive armored assault at Vuhledar that went spectacularly wrong with them losing a total of over 100 tanks and BTRs in one day.

On the 'Kadyrov is dying' front, this also happened:
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1631978452944404480?s=20

I can see this kind of 'boy-king' thing working for the Kim dynasty since they spent decades building up the family as gods and have the massive state-level structures to support it, but I don't see it lasting long in a place like Chechnya where Kadyrov dying would likely result in lots of internal infighting and purges.

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Mar 5, 2023

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




how can you expect ordinary gbs posters to conduct themselves according to rules more strict than even those the professional warfighters on the front lines they post about must follow?

it’s an impossible situation

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

lifetime supply of Pocky posted:

Sorry Toxic Mental, but the admins are loving idiots. This rule is stupid, and repeating it is stupid.

I sincerely wish all Russian invaders die, and there’s not a loving thing wrong with that. gently caress em🖕🖕

You have to be very respectful when discussing russian conscripts raping and murdering ukrainian civilians and dumping their bodies in mass graves

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Why would FSB want to kill Kadyrov, though. He is an important state asset. Anyway, I'm afraid the sources reporting the supposed poisoning are dubious at best

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread
Glad to see this thread though I don't read it right now.

I appreciate the resource being available to me, thank you

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Welcome back friends

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Tai posted:

You have to be very respectful when discussing russian conscripts raping and murdering ukrainian civilians and dumping their bodies in mass graves

They didn't want to be there, raping and looting and murdering civilians. They were FORCED to. So have some empathy!

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

At least we have a thread to post in. Which is a pretty serious change from the previous answer. Can we just loving collectively do the right thing and follow the rules? I'm sure I'm going to be probated at some point for too much detail in an analysis. I'll use that opportunity to be more editorial and move on.

Jesus.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Just an aside, some people might find NAFO cringe. Sure sure. But NAFO came about to troll russian disinformation on twitter for example I'm fairly sure and not to make light of war.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
Was kadyrov causing enough trouble to get the ole spicy tea?

It seemed like he was just a mostly harmless (for Putin) dumbass that was keeping Chechnya in line

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

There is a war? IN UKRAINE?

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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Tai posted:

Just an aside, some people might find NAFO cringe. Sure sure. But NAFO came about to troll russian disinformation on twitter for example I'm fairly sure and not to make light of war.

This is accurate. NAFO is pretty much a counterforce for Russian disinformation and propaganda. It's harder for things to stick if all their channels are clogged with cartoon dogs calling them idiots

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