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Hey everyone. Please read the rules in the OP.  Main rules: 1. Bloodthirst/War Porn: Reveling in the death/misfortune of soldiers or civilians is explicitly and definitively punishable by probation or ban. Please remember that it's human beings on both sides of this conflict. War is not good and people getting hurt and dying is not good, even if it's people we don't like. Don't wish death on people, wish for Russia to pack up its poo poo and go home and work backwards from there. Horndogging for war materiel is weird, don't do it. You've been warned. 2. Posting about posters: NO DISCUSSION OF OTHER FORUMS OR THEIR POSTERS IN THIS THREAD. This will be strictly enforced via time off and/or bans depending how severe the violation is. This includes trying to be cheeky and sly about "some other forums" or "other people on SA" or something along those lines. Everyone knows what you mean, don't try to skirt the rules with vaguery. 3. 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If you don't want the link to auto-embed, uncheck the "automatically parse URL" button below the text field. - Videos of torture/mutilation of soldiers or civilians are not to be posted or linked in the thread at any time for any reason. If you do you will be taking a long posting break and will be paying 10 dollars or risking your account. - News coverage can be linked with appropriate content warnings and tags, but don't link anything that shows things in the above content warning, i.e. gore, dead bodies, etc. without mod approval beforehand. - If you see something that is not following the above guidelines report it and/or PM myself, one of the IKs, or an admin. We will take a look at it and deal with the post as seems appropriate. If you aren't sure whether or not you should post something, hold off and then DM one of the IKs and we'll let you know ASAP Make use of the report button: We count on the community to help us out in this. We do take every report into consideration, and we would encourage you to use it if you think rules are being violated. Please don't report people who just disagree with you. That's petty and dumb. If you see a reply you don't like, call out specific posts, not the whole thread. These rules are subject to change, so please check back every so often. We want GBS to be a great community, even in the midst of all that's going on. If you have any concerns/suggestions/complaints about the rules please PM one of the IKs/mods/admins. We want this thread to stay on topic and be a relatively chill place to read and post about the war. Don't gently caress that up for everyone, we're all going to try and do better. We discussed the rules in SAD and solicited feedback from the D&D and GiP threads as well. If you have any questions about the rules of this OP, please post them in SAD's general chat thread or create a new thread. Thanks!  For your consideration, here are some anonymized examples of how not to post:quote:drat that missile goes 550km? Okay now I'm hard quote:lol Hopefully this leads to more mobiks being turned into ground meat quote:I'd rather not engage with a forum full of genocide deniers quote:[A really lovely cringe reddit meme] quote:I sincerely wish all Russian invaders die, and there’s not a loving thing wrong with that. gently caress em🖕🖕  
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Tai posted:You have to be very respectful when discussing russian conscripts raping and murdering ukrainian civilians and dumping their bodies in mass graves Pander posted:They didn't want to be there, raping and looting and murdering civilians. They were FORCED to. So have some empathy! Just a warning here for everyone - but don't post like this. This kind of posting got us shut down previously. I get that it's frustrating, but you can do better. Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 5, 2023 |
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Mar 5, 2023 22:02
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HonorableTB posted:Prigozhin is making strange threats that I don't think he's really in the position to be making. lol He's really doing the "take my ball and going home" threat? I know he looks like a baby but god drat
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Mar 5, 2023 22:09
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Def Mon dropped this thread 3 hours ago, probably the most up to date one https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1632444401606881280
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Mar 5, 2023 22:34
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...again?
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Mar 5, 2023 22:35
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Those photos legit look like a nuke went off above the city. That's crazy.
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Mar 5, 2023 22:39
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I think we can all agree that the morality of people in war and the state apparatuses and leaders that cause them is not black and white, but actually is rather grey and there's often no completely satisfactory answers. 
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Mar 5, 2023 23:46
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That was a great conversation folks, I'm proud of you all. Keep it up.
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Mar 5, 2023 23:52
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shadow puppet of a posted:Real question for our IK-Mod-Admins watching this thread like a Globalhawk: You can give him the Rush Limbaugh treatment. The architects of this fascist colonial war are deserving of no withholding at all when they bite it because the blood of their own country and another innocent one is directly on their hands. I don't wish death upon anyone, but I'm not going to feel bad when evil people that consider the common man disposable are gone.
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Mar 6, 2023 02:05
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Don't do it Jason
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Mar 6, 2023 02:34
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In posting about war, there are no winners. Only losers.
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Mar 6, 2023 03:30
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HonorableTB posted:Reminder that Russian state media accidentally released their Ukrainian Solution manifesto and quickly deleted it once it was clear the 3 day special military operation was utterly hosed Is this a new thing in Russia that only really started with Putin? The "everyone is trying to attack us all the time" thing? It sure seems like there's a lot more bloviating about other countries doing what they want and it being an attack on Russian ideals recently, even before 2022.
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Mar 6, 2023 06:40
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I think the Wehrmacht discussion has run it's course Feel-good content: https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1632514412933263370?s=20 Another city that looks just completely obliterated https://twitter.com/Igor_from_Kyiv_/status/1632660835301568513?s=20
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Mar 6, 2023 11:01
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GolfHole posted:turns out that the inclination to want to speak on national tv also strongly correlates to brain damage I'm struggling to think of a country where this isn't true. Piers Morgan pretty much covers the entire UK alone.
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Mar 6, 2023 17:20
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I think probably it'd be reasonable to say "since the seige on Bakhmut started in earnest, what % of their total losses have come in that time" or something. So if it's like 30%,? If you lose 30% of your invading forces to capture one single city? That's pretty rough. Expand that over the rest of Ukraine and it's not a great situation for anyone.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:55
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Per CNN. Might not want to take it at face value but as with most of the stats, if the numbers are even 50% boosted for propaganda purposes, it's still a rough pill to swallow if you're in the Russian army:
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Mar 6, 2023 19:14
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It was funny, but at the same time,
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Mar 6, 2023 20:56
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I think Speak The Hungarian Rapper had some powerful words that Vlad Putin should hear
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Mar 7, 2023 01:00
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Turtle Watch posted:Even in 2014, before Maidan roughly 70 percent of Crimea was ethnically Russian, and the vast majority of them sided with Russia over Ukraine repeatedly as in the 1991 referendum, the 1992 election, the 1994 Declaration of Independence, the Orange revolution, Maidan and 2014- on. I think in general you don't really get to pick and choose in those cases and it is what it is. I mean I (and many others where I'm from originally) probably have more in common with a country other than the US politically, ideologically, ethnically, etc. but that doesn't mean I would be cool with that country coming over and claiming my hometown as their own and citing those things as reasons. It's a bit of a double edged sword in that sense. You're either for a sort of government mandated colonialist/manifest destiny-ish type of deal or you just kind of live with it until you either move or things change.
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Mar 7, 2023 07:41
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Turtle Watch posted:I agree that lady’s vacation being ruined in the war is not worthy of much sympathy. I just wanted to clarify what was meant more broadly by saying things such as “Russian colonists go home”. The resources that have been posted here are interesting, and I understand your specific meaning better. The kind of eliminationist rhetoric I was referring to is different and possibly just the kind of nonsense raving you can hear from any random person on twitter and not especially representative. FWIW I understand the thinking there, it's really broad in its scope but there's a valid question of "what do you do when people have moved their lives to places that they really shouldn't have?". I think that's an ever-present question if you're supporting the side of seeing Ukraine kick out the imperialists. Certainly the new money colonials don't deserve very much sympathy, probably something akin to (and this might be a bad analogy) along the lines of what Zionist settlers in the West Bank are still doing today. A lot of nations and states are founded through immoral means, of course. Do kids born in Crimea since 2014 really have any blood on their hands? Should they be deported in the event that Ukraine were to get Crimea back? Or given Ukrainian citizenship if their family wants? Those kinds of questions are way bigger than anyone here can wrangle with and it's probably more for some kind of truth and reconciliation commission to deal with.
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Mar 7, 2023 10:13
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What does Kryvonos translate to, I gotta know
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Mar 7, 2023 17:31
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The president already said she'd veto the bill though right
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Mar 7, 2023 21:55
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DiomedesGodshill posted:Apparently a tank battle around Vuhledar with a Ukrainian win today? Lots of Russian armor/tanks taken out? Maybe they should just go home. This video seems to say so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cmnaxoEq5c
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Mar 8, 2023 02:32
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CannonFodder posted:What song are you parodying, btw? I don't know his works very well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdq4T3iRV80
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Mar 8, 2023 19:49
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The piss tape is real, the poo poo stairs are true, and no one is going to take that away from us
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Mar 9, 2023 02:21
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Let's end the derail here, thanks folks. Have some content to talk about instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvcp3MYxQk
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Mar 9, 2023 04:09
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the holy poopacy posted:Useful idiots: Russia is waging the most benevolent and civilized war in history, and is only liberating Russians who yearn to be free of the Ukrainian yoke • Many Ukrainians state that they do not like or want my colonialism
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Mar 9, 2023 04:16
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This is a good analysis and deconstruction of the Kinzhal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSPoF7IIefU
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Mar 9, 2023 07:39
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Gives new meaning to this 240p classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qbr-M72ib4
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Mar 9, 2023 10:25
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We're allowed one and at the risk of being tacky and making my own joke the thread title I'll do it, for I am a man of the people
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Mar 9, 2023 18:20
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Wow talk about some serious Nazis 
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Mar 9, 2023 21:08
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Strategic Tea posted:what they actually want Everyone to die? Gah dayum
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Mar 9, 2023 21:24
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If you've ever wondered how they defuse mines manually, this is insanely wild how it's basically like "yeah don't press down here right now, like THIS": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfNZoXr6rQ Here's one from Ukraine itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeCLs_p3lLg Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Mar 10, 2023 |
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Mar 10, 2023 01:35
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I think that's a privacy thing that we have to keep under wraps. If people don't like the thread, that's fine, there's nothing we can do about it. It's really not as exciting as you'd expect and there's no surprises there that you couldn't guess regardless.
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Mar 10, 2023 02:02
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It's not probateable, as that meme long predates the Ukraine war by like a decade and comes directly from Russian internet users making GBS threads on Putin iirc. It's not a generalization about Russians or anything, just making fun of an objectively awful despot. That probation was a mistake by Gene possibly, we contacted him about it to try and reverse it but I don't know if he was around to undo it today. The probe reason was a little unclear so I'm not sure. The ones that we don't want are specifically the NAFO and also ones similar to the one at the bottom of the OP.
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Mar 10, 2023 10:47
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Unnamed source but seems to line up with everything we've seen so far. Human Wave attacks basically. https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1634108360151691265?s=20
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Mar 10, 2023 18:31
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Flavahbeast posted:The WWF has been designated a foreign agent by the Russian government Awk-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaard!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTzd6qjeL8
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Mar 10, 2023 21:20
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Power Khan posted:That's pretty cool. The 240 is heavy though and all that ammo.... Yeah jesus that's like carrying just a solid block of metal on your back basically.
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Mar 10, 2023 23:56
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Pyrrhus remarked after the battle, “Another victory like that and we are done for.”
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Power Khan posted:Just quick heads up, apparently now the arrival of new, previously not seen weaponry where nobody has any clue how it's delivered on target isn't newsworthy. And oh, explosions seen from a distance are now mildly There's people visibly writhing on the ground probably dying in that video FYI. I didn't probe or edit the post but you should have been a little more judicious in posting it.
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