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redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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please strike all references to "Newzealand" (and also to the older "New Zealand") from the title and thread.

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redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Aug 18, 2005

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exmachina posted:

I got polled this arvo

so which niche, hopeless fringe party did you say you'd vote for? top? heartland nz? greens?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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the first time my wife voted she did act + greens

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Aug 18, 2005

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https://twitter.com/FrankMcRae/status/1636608813582401536

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Aug 18, 2005

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exmarx posted:

the greens haven't been in coalition :smuggo:

a distinction that only matters to political brains

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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hmm better do the usual left thing and throw her to the wolves

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Aug 18, 2005

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klen dool posted:

gently caress she didn't say "all" at all. Not even a hint of "all", the audio couldn't be clearer.

I kind thought she was being a tad hyperbolic but understandably so, and to be clear I don't think she needed to clarify, but she didn't even say what I thought she said!

huh, i thought she'd said "all" too, for some reason

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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echinopsis posted:

Easter Sunday is a restricted trading day

open 'er up

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Ratios and Tendency posted:

Neoliberal economies target 4% unemployment to curb wages. And then punish the unemployed.

the orphan-grinder may not be a perfect system, but it's the one we have

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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bike tory posted:

I am just going to assume this is true regardless, because it makes me feel like there really is karmic justice in the world.

counterpoint: kissinger

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Slavvy posted:

The news is telling me that experts say our fresh water situation is an appalling environmental catastrophe. The government is hard at work doing something about this, right?

of course! it's a high priority for all parties in parliament

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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that's just an onion article

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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labourishly:

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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this is a slander on honest banker and everyday bloke John Key

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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maybe we should just piggyback off australia

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Aug 18, 2005

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bike tory posted:

wait surely she was aware of this right, her govt passed that legislation and then actively refused to repeal it

Looking increasingly likely that Winnie will be back, so we'll get a National/ACT/NZF govt.

gently caress

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Serephina posted:

I agree 100% with what it's implying, but spidey sense is tingling and I'm wondering about selection bias; are free prescriptions handed out more often for less severe maladies, etc?

the way i think about it is that people will argue against good thing x using studies that are just as - if not more - flawed as the study you're using to support good thing x

so i no longer feel bad about picking one study that supports my argument, without knowing the quality of the study or how it fits into the broader research landscape

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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exmarx posted:

good to see a communist in the top 5

be a bit of a shock to see james shaw anywhere other than the top 2 tbh

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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use words, not emoji. gently caress!

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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this is cow country now, bitch

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Aug 18, 2005

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Confusedslight posted:

Big ooof for the greens

it's all that PC gone mad

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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thank god someone is finally talking about the cryptid menace

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Aug 18, 2005

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Charles 2 of Spain posted:

"Back at Friday’s Tauranga meeting, another audience member suggested traffic workers should work 24 hours a day, seven days a week."

cars Cars CARS

soon: "why are roads 4x more expensive"

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Wait what helicopter

that's the "bird" that took the hobbits to mordor

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Hillary 2024 posted:

If only National would make wait times an election issue rather than their usual bullshit

i don't see how defunding the public system then privatizing everything is gonna help?


Ghostlight posted:

peepee partnerships

:hmmyes:

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Slavvy posted:

Why does labour exist again remind me

pressure release valve

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Aug 18, 2005

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whoops, our important system that takes years to increase the number of qualified workers is falling apart due to chronic underinvestment for decades, and no one wants to start the long and expensive qualification needed to enter the field because they're not loving stupid

oh well, nothing to be done. the only thing we can do now is privatize the whole thing

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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proper politics requires a balance of both sides. vote green/act

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Aug 18, 2005

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you either die a renter or live long enough to become a landlord

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Aug 18, 2005

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klen dool posted:

Lol who the gently caress are "the middle class woke identity politics activists"?

*gestures at this thread*

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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jpparker55 posted:

I'm sadly not surprised, but can someone enlighten me: Why is Labour willing to dig in on the co governance aspect of three waters, which will almost certainly lose them the election by itself but will instantly cave on mildly controversial things like tax? My initial judgement on the wealth tax is they're cowards trying to win an election, but co governance has people rabid (regardless or perhaps because of not understanding it) and Labour have been boldly unwavering on it.

they're libs, op

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Aug 18, 2005

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Slavvy posted:

I think being better than the Americans on any given point is not really an amazing accolade, it's really the bare minimum

one that the overwhelming majority of the world whiffed

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Content to Hover posted:

Here's a fun article 'Staggering' rise in older Kiwis renting predicted it goes on to point out that "pensions were set at a level that assumed retirees owned their homes outright and did not have rent or a mortgage to pay". There is no cheap solution to this, so I can't see either major party seriously addressing it.

im glad. it's only fair that everyone chips in to support our mum n dad landlords

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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N.Z.'s Champion posted:


edit: oh wait this is the politics thread sorry

gently caress, is it?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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Your Brain on Hugs posted:

GST is a regressive tax anyway

this is a feature, not a bug

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

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https://twitter.com/dan_brunskill/status/1689484435195047936

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Aug 18, 2005

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i think all tax rates should be reduced to zero, to spur innovation and efficiency

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Aug 18, 2005

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Slavvy posted:

The idea that NZ politics are worth interfering in, and that said interference would make any distinguishable difference to our foreign policy, makes me feel grown up and smart

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