mawarannahr posted:

I don't think they have a Walmart in Seattle

The Oldest Man posted:

basic

Woke Mind Virus posted:

if you are hot: drink ice cold water. do not listen to any of these posters. they are very stupid!

The Oldest Man posted:

go back to the farm

Smythe posted:

Quirky UO player: bardiche and broadsword (little worse but more fun, better sounds)

mawarannahr posted:

traditional cultures in hot places almost universally advocate and practice the consumption of hot beverages as opposed to cold. maybe they know a thing or two.

mawarannahr posted:

traditional cultures in hot places almost universally advocate and practice the consumption of hot beverages as opposed to cold. maybe they know a thing or two.

NeonPunk posted:

What no that's not how it works at all. Swallowing ice will actually make your body produce more heat. Your body already has their own internal regulation and it always will want to maintain the same internal temperature. Our body evolved to dump excess heat out in the environment, so the best way to cool yourself is by sweating and using the evaporation effect or just use A/C.

Just look up any heatstroke or heat exhaustion tips, they never mention anything about drinking ice water or anything, it's always external, not internal for a reason.

Canned Sunshine posted:

You're thinking of deionized water. Distilled is fine, if a little plain tasting.

Yeah, deionized water has long been a no-go for drinking, because of potential long term issues with bones and other organs, but even then, if it's all you have, it isn't going to make you sick to drink if it's limited in use.

Distilled is fine, just... not very tasty.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I think by "in Seattle" they meant "within fifty miles of Seattle"

Smythe posted:

basic UO player: halberd and katana (best combo, easily)

Quirky UO player: bardiche and broadsword (little worse but more fun, better sounds)

your shard has hosed up rules: double axe

PoundSand posted:

If you couldn't tell by my suggestion to "swallow the ice whole" I was joking friend as people don't generally just knock back ice cubes like a large pill.

I would say in a general science context I'm skeptical that this wouldn't be an effective way of cooling someone down because you know thermodynamics and such, it's going to on a raw level absorb more heat because that's what ice does, but I'm not a doctor and it wasn't a serious suggestion in the first place.

You piqued my curiosity so I googled heat stroke treatment and the mayo clinic directly suggests "chilled water" so I think "nah bro it actually makes your body hotter drinking ice water because of how we evolved" is a half remembered "fact" you learned somewhere from a bad source. Otherwise the inverse would also be true and they'd recommend giving people ice to ward off a cold environment.

Shipon posted:

A lot of food banks do this because of "safety" (really they don't want people standing next to each other in lines and getting to talking with each other)

err posted:

https://twitter.com/Alea_/status/1783960342944444816

Mr Hootington posted:

Oh God lol

Japan said if it hits 160 they are intervening.

NeonPunk posted:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heat-stroke/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353587

Literally never say anything in here about drinking chilled water, every single thing in here is all about external.

It's the same reason why you don't just hook up a hot saline IV or a cup of hot water to someone suffering from hypothermia or frostbite, it's still all external. Your body is already highly regulated with their internal temperatures and trying to change it from the internal by consuming something hot or cold won't work.

quote:

If the person is conscious, offer chilled water, a sports drink containing electrolytes or another nonalcoholic beverage without caffeine.

Smythe posted:

basic UO player: halberd and katana (best combo, easily)

Quirky UO player: bardiche and broadsword (little worse but more fun, better sounds)

your shard has hosed up rules: double axe

NeonPunk posted:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heat-stroke/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353587

Literally never say anything in here about drinking chilled water, every single thing in here is all about external.

It's the same reason why you don't just hook up a hot saline IV or a cup of hot water to someone suffering from hypothermia or frostbite, it's still all external. Your body is already highly regulated with their internal temperatures and trying to change it from the internal by consuming something hot or cold won't work.

“Mayo Clinic” posted:

Supply warm beverages. If the affected person is alert and able to swallow, give the person a warm, sweet, nonalcoholic, noncaffeinated drink. Warm drinks can help warm the body.

“Diagnosis and Treatment of Hypothermia” posted:

Airway rewarming with humidified oxygen at 40°C (104°F) is done easily, increases core temperature by 1.0°C (1.8°F) to 2.5°C (4.5°F) per hour, and decreases evaporative heat loss via respiration.17 Intravenous fluids (preferably 5 percent dextrose and normal saline) should be heated to 40°C to 45°C. Heating intravenous fluids can be accomplished most easily using a blood warmer, but a microwave can be used, if calibrated in advance.18 These two methods of active core rewarming have minimal drawbacks and should be implemented on all patients, except those who require passive rewarming measures only.

Canned Sunshine posted:

You seriously need to do more research if you’re trying to correlate the treatments for heat exhaustion/stroke with those of hypothermia, in terms of consumption of fluids, external treatment, etc.

No offense, but I’m worried you’ll give someone really dangerous suggestions based on hearsay/etc.

And just for fun/shits and giggles, have a few fun references/quotes related to hypothermia:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothermia/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352688

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issue...%20to%2045%B0C.

err posted:

https://twitter.com/Alea_/status/1783960342944444816

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

mawarannahr posted:

Just make sure you don't use distilled water to make ice cubes -- you can die, as many have, from bone mineral leaching

Vox Nihili posted:

What are they going to do, raise their target rate to 0.2%?

the popes toes posted:

My work sent me overseas once and I made my girlfriend promise to look after my large fish tank - tetras and bumblebee gobies. Gave her the rundown but of course when the level got a bit low she just added distilled water - "It's pure water! Pure! I thought that would be great for them!".

Rectal Death Alert posted:

If I can't put ice cream in my rear end in a top hat then why am I even participating in society anymore

loquacius posted:

I mean the fact that Germany could support a scat-porn industry where America couldn't still suggests a stronger tendency toward it there

shrike82 posted:

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1783866623289385175

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

From a Walmart in Seattle



Apparently they will also escort you and your socks to the register.

shrike82 posted:

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1783866623289385175