SpaceDrake posted:

God I am just sat here laughing my rear end off

As so many have already pointed out, this is just going to incentivize bank runs because everyone's going to get bailed out and the folks who bail out early and sell stock early (like what happened when SVB got goosed a few years ago) are going to make utterly ruinous amounts of money. Every bank will be squeezed, therefore every bank is protected, therefore every bank is now a literal mint.

Good job to the Biden administration, I suppose, for choosing the path of total financial chaos and proving that the government could just end poverty at will.

Good Citizen posted:

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1626232682882699270?s=46&t=z3uF6wUvSqPNGhOasO9PNQ

Frosted Flake posted:

It drives me absolutely apoplectic when I ask for it to depict any historical period I know a good deal about because so much is wrong in very simple ways that you could tell an artist about, or provide reference material to. It does give me a deeper appreciation for history illustrators like Angus McBride though.

The same is true if you know art history because (obviously) it doesn't understand artist or genre, it's just pastiche. Like ChatGPT is "literature" for people who don't like to read, AI creates "art" for people who don't like art.

Frosted Flake posted:

Just like the ChatGPT update, not really.

Jon Irenicus posted:

remembering the time that cspam found the landlord thread in BFC and having a chuckle. that said I DO NOT endorse raiding the "Fundamentals Are Sound" thread

DancingShade posted:

Brics is going to build its own treehouse and the USA & vassals will be outside complaining they weren't invited even though they keep throwing eggs at everyone else's houses.

Then it's going to rain.

Oglethorpe posted:

the only thing i can think of that could explode in a chocolate factory is like a boiler or something

tristeham posted:

nice

slave to my cravings posted:

Frosted Flake posted:

I don’t want to get too philosophical, but:

“I'm also tired of people saying that ChatGPT4 is not as disruptive as everyone is saying, that the hype will fade, and that good writers will prevail. They ignore what's an obvious reality - if dozens of people report here that they lost almost all clients to Al, then not everything is
as rosy as they want to believe.”

“We live in a profit-driven world where quantity matters more than quality. That means that most companies will only care about publishing decent content every day, and that's where ChatGPT outperforms us. Good writers can deliver the most captivating copies and articles, but they're not free and can't deliver
their work in a matter of seconds.”

but so much copy already read like it was written by machines. This feels like something where capitalism had turned art into craft into commodity, and human writers were “programmed” by the market to write stuff that was all more or less the same anyway.

Obviously I understand the effects on human beings and that sucks, and I agree the writing is trash. The only people heralding this are beep boop tech guys and capitalists, people at the forefront of turning themselves into machines, though the process of capitalism.

This writer judging their work by “Good writers can deliver the most captivating copies and articles” makes my heart sink.

I suppose I keep thinking of whichever AI art model people say works best, in fact you practically have to, when you end a prompt with “ArtStation”. The art was already homogenized, commodified, dictated by capitalism. It already looked like it was mass produced by machines for mass market appeal.

Listacle writing, ad copy, online articles trying to capture google AdSense revenue, that’s sort of the same thing. It’s capitalism doing this, and can anyone say they’re satisfied with the result either way?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGEwMgnOnk

Paradoxish posted:

The flip side to this is that the people screaming the loudest about AI revolutionizing everything have a huge amount of overlap with the scammers who push poo poo like crypto at every possible opportunity. Browse through sites like Udemy and you'll find a ridiculous number of "prompt engineering" and related AI courses already, because a specific group has latched onto this as their next grift and that group tends to be extremely online and extremely good at creating hype.

Buffer posted:

Anything you use to detect can be used to tune. There's a feedback loop there. Also, like, what do you think is used in an automated detector? A model! And if the model artifact itself is infringing...

You're also going to have false positives and start flagging human work as ai-generated, which will I guess be used to absolutely crush people in court. The standard there not being accuracy but rather what you can get past a judge once. Like, look at forensics and despair.

But the main effect I think if the court cases go bad will be to kill the FOSS side of this, I don't think the closed side is killable.

quote:

this isn't a problem because our legal system already has a built-in solution to the copyright question. if the company using potentially derivative work is microsoft or google and has more money to spend on lawyers and bribing judges than the owner of the copyright, then they get to either get away with it or blackmail the copyright owner into selling the rights since their only other options would be to not enforce their ownership or enter into a court battle they can't afford. on the other hand, if the copyright owner is the one with more money and in-house counsel, then the copyright is enforced.

Old Story posted:

Right, but if a significant amount of people lose the ability to make a living producing things that are useless, it could have huge economic consequences

maybe we need to think about decoupling people's ability to survive from their ability to be economically productive or something

Buffer posted:

That just means stability can't claim copyright, and maybe you can't copyright direct output. I would just claim copyright when I use it as a tool.

Buffer posted:

cool, so because samsung enhances the photos on my phone using a diffusion model I can't copyright them? Purely e2e mechanical and software process except me choosing to click button.

I use that example because that's precisely how a diffuser is used to enhance a sketch or photo. Another workflow is utilizing diffusion models in a way very akin to collage - mixing / welding together different models and weights and prompts across different areas of an image. Humans are *heavily involved* - it is not purely mechanical outside the waifu promptsmiths.

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

AI is eating into concept art, promotional art, and commission work too.

Wonky eyes or 6 fingered hands can be masked out and fixed with a button press now. Power users can save specific characters to reuse and pose them exactly as needed like a 3D model so they don't look like randomized mutants on each generation. There's a huge variety of advanced tools beyond prompting being rapidly released.

Some companies refuse to use AI out of principal or legal fears, but tons are jumping in head first to massively reduce billable hours.

Nothus posted:

AI isn't going to kick over the system and lead to glorious revolution. It's just going to immiserate another layer of the middle class and accelerate the upward accumulation of wealth.

Paradoxish posted:

I don't think gpt will ever fully replace the content mills, but I hope I 'm wrong. The ability to poo poo out SEO content without the limiting factors of time or money will essentially destroy the entire internet advertising ecosystem and I'm here for that.

nexous posted:

the end result of ChatGPT will be anti AI people purposefully littering the internet with slightly incorrect data that will poison the well and make the whole thing useless.

an endless arms war between fake data and filtering tech will take place and the only two jobs available will be working for one side or the other

from an office, not remotely

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

can you clarify that last point about the dmca?

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

ok gotcha, thanks!

so it's like glaze might not work super well, it's like putting a lovely lock on your stuff

but if someone breaks that lock they have done crimes

Nodelphi posted:

My job has me do a bullshit self-eval for work every year, it’s 10 pages long and wants you to write 7 essays on how you honor each of their corporate ideals.

I used to do one sentence responses and they grumble about it every year. This year I used chatgpt and they recommended me for a promotion.

Paradoxish posted:

There's an entire ecosystem are tightly connected internet grift and most of it links back to crypto at its core.

SKULL.GIF posted:

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1646493197911093248

Relevant Tangent posted:

doom econ is perfect because doomsday implies a reckoning that will never come

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what the gently caress does this accomplish that a debit card doesn’t

Paradoxish posted:

They're all like this. I have a pile of AI Udemy courses because I'm evaluating GPT-4 for a client (it won't get even close to doing what they need but they'll probably use it anyway lmao) and they're all the same poo poo. Even the relatively well-meaning ones essentially boil down to instructions on cranking out an absurd amount of garbage-tier poo poo because the effort required to get good results isn't worth it.

I keep saying it, but the usual grifters bandwagoning this poo poo is the best indication that it's not really going anywhere.

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Jeez.
But,how badly will AI screw up the work flow for your client if they use it all?

Buffer posted:

sending people to prison for crawling and archiving websites

common crawl respected robots.txt, lmao

Quinch posted:

surely whatever method you are using to identify copyrightable material could be built into the ai either directly or afterwards so it doesn’t produce stuff that gets you sued? seems like a trivial issue for computers to solve to just have what’s it’s produced ran against the training data again and disregard anything that matches existing work.

Buffer posted:

yes because it uses common crawl, which means the input filter is whatever they have plus a sites robots.txt file. LAION is that dataset, filtered via ML, as of Oct 2022 or whatever.

a lot of people don't setup robots.txt correctly - and there's a lot of things on the public internet that really shouldn't be - and almost no one was looking at or cared about this stuff prior to diffusors

IDK if all of this is illegal under german law or not, but the way some of this works is foundational or at least has been the assumed status quo for a long time - and crawlers do do stuff that's in the public interest.

There's potentially a way to split this by declaring LAION's non-profit / academic pursuit thing bullshit because of the commercial layer and weak-as-hell-firewall RE: interconnectedness with stability and their commercial offerings, so I hope they do that or some other method.

Delta-Wye posted:

see, no problem here you just have to be cheaper than automation. welcome to being in the modern labor pool, white collars.

Delta-Wye posted:

lol, lmao