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nullEntityRNG
Jun 23, 2010

Mostly pseudo-random.
What if we flood everywhere and switch to boats? Problem solved. No infastructure needed.

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numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

if escooter fuckers can ride on the sidewalk im gonna ride my ninja 650 on the sidewalk too

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
*defunds public transport and neglects development for half a century until the only users are poor, homeless, drunks, and/or the mentally unwell*

"Ew. Public transport?!"

Treecko
Apr 23, 2008

The Official Demon Girl
Boss of 2022!

nullEntityRNG posted:

What if we flood everywhere and switch to boats? Problem solved. No infastructure needed.

Well, Dennis Hopper is dead, Waterworld could be feasible now

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Moving roads like it's a bad science fiction novel from 1950s

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

nullEntityRNG posted:

What if we flood everywhere and switch to boats? Problem solved. No infastructure needed.

thats what happens every time i play cities:skylines. just the first part though and usually not on purpose. if the simulation is accurate, the human population will be slow to adapt to boats and most of them will just attempt to drive their cars through the water until the cars break, and then they just sit there until they die. again, just a simulation, but ive certainly seen the behavior replicated by irl humans in the town where my parents live, which floods every year.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

i wish scientists would stop jerking their dicks off with trying to cure the common cold and get their poo poo pointed at inventing a transporter from star trek

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

numberoneposter posted:

i wish scientists would stop loving around with trying to cure the common cold and get their poo poo pointed at inventing a transporter from star trek

food replicators first

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Earwicker posted:

food replicators first

a transporter could be both!

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Transport that fake food right into my mouth

naem
May 29, 2011

when people transport and want to lose weight, beam the excess fat into the replicator

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Just casually mentioning that it's star trek canon that they transport the poo poo out of their asses.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

FogHelmut posted:

Just casually mentioning that it's star trek canon that they transport the poo poo out of their asses.
the transporter is also a suicide booth making exact conscious clones of the person who steps into it but space is so hosed up that everyone just goes with it

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


FogHelmut posted:

Just casually mentioning that it's star trek canon that they transport the poo poo out of their asses.

wrong franchise

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

if you need me ill be getting my hog wet in the holosuite

The Hello Machine
Jul 19, 2021

I'm not a real machine, but I am a real Hello-sayer.
I avoid driving whenever possible bc I dont want to die. I wish other people would drive less often so I could get about my town in peace. I flip off motorists whenever I cross the street.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Colonel Cancer posted:

Moving roads like it's a bad science fiction novel from 1950s

The roads must roll.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

numberoneposter posted:

the transporter is also a suicide booth making exact conscious clones of the person who steps into it but space is so hosed up that everyone just goes with it

Star Trek society is the kind of utopia where people are focused entirely on the collective good instead of personal gain, and for society as a whole the perfect copy is completely indistinguishable from the original. It makes sense.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
And yet nobody wants to transport all those red shirts back to life!

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Star Trek society is the kind of utopia where people are focused entirely on the collective good instead of personal gain

thats only the dorks in the federation. there are plenty of characters and cultures in the star trek universe where people are out for personal gain. if the ferengi had invented transporters they'd be selling clones as a labor force

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 18, 2023

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

LimaBiker posted:

This exactly.

And why aren't there stores and services everywhere where people live? Because people live distributed all over a country, and you need a certain amount of people living around a shop to make it possible to run the shop. There will always be people who mentally can't deal with living in a busy city, and people who simply can't afford it. Once an hour buses that run through 15 little towns aren't a good car replacement.

First focus on people who commute sit in a traffic jam each day. If a highway has regular traffic jams, it's probably carrying enough people to make a rail line very useful and a better alternative to sitting in a traffic jam. I think most problems would already be solved by taking half of all commuters off the road.

I live in a city and don't have a car. Owned one for 6 months, then decided that it wasn't worth it. Bicycles are better within my city, and my motorcycles are more fun and better for reaching other inner cities.
I still want a Trabant, though. But with two motorcycles that i'm doing my own maintenance on, i don't really have the time or energy to also do a socialist shitbox made out of cotton waste and coal derived chemicals.

Waiting for traffic congestion hell to happen first in order to justify investing in public transit is doing it backwards. Both Japan and Switzerland manage to have reliable rail service to small rural towns. It boils down to the political will not to let racial paranoia and the shareholders of GM and ExxonMobil influence urban planning.

And I would argue cars themselves are the main contributor to a city's busy stressful environment. Horns honking, everyone trying to find parking, cutting off cyclists and pedestrians, etc. Compare a bicycle commute in San Francisco to a bicycle commute in Amsterdam, two cities of roughly 820K people. Despite SF's reputation for being communist car-haters, Amsterdam is the clear winner in terms of ease of use and stress levels.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Dick Jones posted:

Compare a bicycle commute in San Francisco to a bicycle commute in Amsterdam, two cities of roughly 820K people. Despite SF's reputation for being communist car-haters, Amsterdam is the clear winner in terms of ease of use and stress levels.

to be fair, while part of that is due to Amsterdam's superior infrastructure and engineering, there's also the fact that it's completely flat while SF has a bunch of steep hills in the middle of it, which adds to the difficulty in both urban planning and biking.

also biking in Amsterdam can still be pretty drat stressful at times, even if not as deadly as in an American city. the sheer volume of bikes on the road especially in rush hour traffic can be overwhelming. biking in the Dutch countryside however is amazing.

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Mar 28, 2023

Who Is Paul Blart
Oct 22, 2010
If I didn’t have a car I wouldn’t be able to drink and drive, which is like my favorite thing.

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


Earwicker posted:

to be fair, while part of that is due to Amsterdam's superior infrastructure and engineering, there's also the fact that it's completely flat while SF has a bunch of steep hills in the middle of it, which adds to the difficulty in both urban planning and biking.

also biking in Amsterdam can still be pretty drat stressful at times, even if not as deadly as in an American city. the sheer volume of bikes on the road especially in rush hour traffic can be overwhelming. biking in the Dutch countryside however is amazing.

the "hills" argument for poor cycling infrastructure and adoption has become moot now that e-bikes are so good and readily available

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Not Just Bikes just released an awesome video about car hell in Nassau.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdz6FeQLuHQ

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017
car culture is dumb, but so is public transportation in the USA so I guess I'll keep driving.

maybe I'll get one of those self driving electric cars. those are probably safer than human drivers by now.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

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I like having a car, but I don’t like needing a car.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Space Kablooey posted:

Not Just Bikes just released an awesome video about car hell in Nassau.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdz6FeQLuHQ


I just skimmed over the video for now but reminds me of The Gambia where I was in November. The whole country has the population of my metropolitan area and most people don't have the money to buy a car but the traffic is an utter nightmare. The public minibus route taxis of course get stuck there just the same.



I think it'll get worse in the evening too. The roads looks like this (though I think it's the other, 33 minute route)



The whole thing could be solved with one tram line but they don't have the capital to get it done.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
For all my hate on cars tho I'm gearing up to be part of the problem because public transit has gotten worse and cycle commuting has gotten more dangerous since Covid and gently caress it I'm done trying to be part of the solution.

Gonna be car shopping soon. :rice:

Greg12
Apr 22, 2020

EvilJoven posted:

For all my hate on cars tho I'm gearing up to be part of the problem because public transit has gotten worse and cycle commuting has gotten more dangerous since Covid and gently caress it I'm done trying to be part of the solution.

Gonna be car shopping soon. :rice:

hey, don't feel down! just because america can't do anything doesn't mean that it's impossible to do anything.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

EvilJoven posted:

For all my hate on cars tho I'm gearing up to be part of the problem because public transit has gotten worse and cycle commuting has gotten more dangerous since Covid and gently caress it I'm done trying to be part of the solution.

Gonna be car shopping soon. :rice:

Similar to recycling, the individual can only do so much with the situation they're given. If a town sucks for public transit, you can't blame the individual for choosing a car over an unreliable bus or a half-assed bike lane. The actual solution lies further upstream with zoning laws (allow more multi-unit town houses) and long term investments building out light rail, BRT lanes, and mixed-use development around transit hubs.

So in summary: Meh. Just don't buy a loving pickup truck.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
We already have a pickup but we use it to cart around a full construction crew most of the time during the week and on weekends it ends up driving several kilometers out on to the lake for ice fishing. Quite often. Even so I hate driving it when it isn't necessary for those reasons but we end up doing so only because for the longest time it didn't make sense for us to have two vehicles.

I hate it so very much and the only positive to buying a car is we won't need to drive it when we don't actually need it. I also want it to require more strict licensing, driver training, and higher insurance premiums. Hell vehicles should be taxed by some sort of distance*weight formula.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
the anti car culture movement of cyclists not following the traffic laws when on the road is pretty funny, good way to go splat

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Private Cumshoe posted:

the anti car culture movement of cyclists not following the traffic laws when on the road is pretty funny, good way to go splat

lol @ the idea of stopping for a stop sign on a bike

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Rules that are necessary for the safe operation of automobiles is often unnecessary or even dangerous to impose on cyclists.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH
almost slammed into a kid riding on a sidewalk through a red light/don't walk because I had a green light and they didn't have a watch for slow children sign

he shouted bicycle or bike or something like that and I laughed at him, definitely going to get himself killed :lmao:

EvilJoven posted:

Rules that are necessary for the safe operation of automobiles is often unnecessary or even dangerous to impose on cyclists.

that's a good point they should try being as unpredictable as possible

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Chinatown posted:

lol @ the idea of stopping for a stop sign on a bike

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

EvilJoven posted:

Rules that are necessary for the safe operation of automobiles is often unnecessary or even dangerous to impose on cyclists.

How is stopping at a stop sign to look for traffic dangerous to cyclists?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
Getting all upset and concern trolling about cyclists breaking the law is dumb as hell when all cars speed (which actually kills people). HTH!

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Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Point is I can't ride the subway unless I'm wasted.

This is normal. Haven’t you noticed everyone on the subway is wasted?
Are you like actually using it sober?
It’s not even made for that so it’s no surprise that it feels uncomfortable.

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