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pretty sure ive never gotten into the alchemist type of job in games like ff5, fftactics, octopath traveler and stuff like that. Just "being good at items" is not my kind of thing i think
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 06:17 |
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# ? May 3, 2024 21:58 |
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My first exposure to the Alchemist class, although I didn't know it, was in Final Fantasy X. Rikku was definitely meant to be like a thief/alchemist specialist. And i never wanted to use those abilities / didnt get much out of it. But i remember that, because of her "Mix" ability where she mixes items together, or, like, mixes ingredits together to make super-items(?), FFX strategy guides had to have massive Appendices with every possible combination of stuff.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 06:18 |
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Just hit things please. In a cool way. Or maybe have a mushroom or hosed up demented cat do it.
i only deal with hoes that pose in maybelline
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 06:38 |
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The X-2 alchemist is ok, it's cool that they can use items without actually consuming them, but all it does is turn them into a crappy white mage.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 06:47 |
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When i saw this i was like Yup sounds about right
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 07:10 |
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I would argue that Chemist ≠ Alchemist
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 07:17 |
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I'd probably use item classes more if they fired the potions or whatever from a military grade sniper rifle while prone. You want a potion? *BANG* Eat poison! *KAPOW* Mixed this up special just for you! *BLAMMO*
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 07:49 |
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No I wouldn't, nevermind.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 08:01 |
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sometimes the mix ability will let you turn mundane items into powerful items like mega elixirs. not the most romantic job, but a powerful support class if you will give it the time of day and maybe some positive reinforcement
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 08:10 |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ND17Zf68s
i only deal with hoes that pose in maybelline
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 08:23 |
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That Little Demon posted:I would argue that Chemist ≠ Alchemist agreed. a chemist uses science, whilst an alchemist uses vibes
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 09:14 |
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much like Coelho's so-called masterpiece, The Alchemist sucks balls.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 09:36 |
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The Chemist in FFT is honestly pretty good. Sure, you must spend money to keep a decent lineup of items and they cannot use their cures on an EOE but the lack of casting times and no need for MP and far more accurate healing makes it more desirable to chuck an Elixir or X Potion at your ally during a pinch (or even a Phoenix Down when you are too late). Also in the Atelier series, while your Alchemist main character is indeed mediocre in combat compared to the rest of the party, their item creation capability makes them far more flexible compared to them, and often you are better off using them to wipe out an enemy encounter with the single use of a Bomb.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 12:21 |
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Bolverkur posted:much like Coelho's so-called masterpiece, The Alchemist sucks balls. Lol get his rear end
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 13:25 |
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Skylark posted:pretty sure ive never gotten into the alchemist type of job in games like ff5, fftactics, octopath traveler and stuff like that. Just "being good at items" is not my kind of thing i think Agreed. It just seems wasteful.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 13:40 |
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Potions are for the potion seller, I ride into battle (I can handle the potions tho)
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 13:43 |
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Plutonis posted:The Chemist in FFT is honestly pretty good. Sure, you must spend money to keep a decent lineup of items and they cannot use their cures on an EOE but the lack of casting times and no need for MP and far more accurate healing makes it more desirable to chuck an Elixir or X Potion at your ally during a pinch (or even a Phoenix Down when you are too late). They can use guns too which is sick my morning jackass fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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Bolverkur posted:much like Coelho's so-called masterpiece, The Alchemist sucks balls. He's a national treasure
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 16:04 |
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That Little Demon posted:I would argue that Chemist ≠ Alchemist Yup. Chemist = looking something up on a big rear end chart on gamefaqs, alchemist = your potions are better
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 16:07 |
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I have a pathological urge to never use consumable items in jrpgs so this type of class torments me, op
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 16:36 |
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Sub-Actuality posted:I have a pathological urge to never use consumable items in jrpgs so this type of class torments me, op This lol. I don't even use consumables normally, the thought of using them up to fight is well, frankly it's sickening.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 17:03 |
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Blowing people up with items such as grenades or magic scrolls is good, however, it should not require a dedicated class. The point of items in a JRPG is that anyone can use them to perform actions beyond their normal abilities, at the cost of a permanent resource. When you require a specialized party member to do it it's just magic that costs money. Basically, it's a redundant mechanic.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 18:19 |
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First time I ever messed with an alchemist class was in ragnarok online and I didn't like it one bit, but more power to those who do.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 18:29 |
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Combining items to make new items is a win idea but needs to be something that happens outside battle like the Alchemy Pot in DQ8.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 18:34 |
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i agree in principle op BUT the ff5 chemist is some hype poo poo because mix can do some wicked weird stuff and break game mechanics. you cn use mix to avoid fighting the second phase of the last boss for instance, or gve pcs the heavy status effect that bosses have and breaks scripting for a bunch of crap. all other chemsists suck though
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 18:46 |
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One of my favorite JRPG battle moments was in octopath, using my very last full hp/mp/bp recovery item with the alchemist's "affect entire party" special ability in order to perfectly cancel out the final boss's ultimate super move where he completely drains and debuffs everyone Trying to think of my second coolest JRPG alchemy moment and coming up empty though
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:01 |
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Skylark posted:When i saw this i was like Yup sounds about right lol ----------------
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:46 |
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[pounding my chest for emphasis] I can use knives and staves!
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:47 |
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I can summon the gods of our realms to do my bidding. So uhm. What do you do? [sullenly] I mix drinks for everyone. ----------------
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:49 |
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They give us status effects So we buy their "potions" While they silence our white magic
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:51 |
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Hizke posted:[pounding my chest for emphasis] I can use knives and staves! FactsAreUseless posted:They give us status effects lmao
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 19:52 |
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Didn’t know My Dad was a class!
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 20:08 |
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I always want alchemist to be good and it never is. Rikku in ffx comes close but yeah I have to keep a chart to know how mix works
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 20:23 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:
Tidus: Dad, that's just two beers in one glass. Jecht: [Item > Grenade]
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 20:32 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:Jecht: Hey kid, check out what I just invented. I call it an Ultra Beer! Jecht: I can't quite hear the hymn anymore son... soon there won't be anything left of me. Jecht uses Jagerbomb
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 20:42 |
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You can use forbidden science to turn lead into gold? Cool, I just punched a slime and got 10 gold
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 21:31 |
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Alchemists that do poo poo like turn monsters into gold or use special acid bombs rule Alchemists that just use potions and normal items better drool ----------------
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 22:27 |
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Alchemist on Tactics Advance was pretty badass too now that I remember. Had insane spells like Flare and Meteor and could turn people into Toads.
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# ? Mar 18, 2023 23:53 |
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Plutonis posted:Alchemist on Tactics Advance was pretty badass too now that I remember. Had insane spells like Flare and Meteor and could turn people into Toads. holy poo poo it happened
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# ? Mar 19, 2023 00:31 |
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# ? May 3, 2024 21:58 |
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Fungah! posted:holy poo poo it happened Fluff came through. ftw
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