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Meinberg posted:I feel bad for not having done more to push back at the concepts of the character at the time, to be honest, but there was a fair amount of peer pressure to comply. That’s crazy
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so we're all agreed in killing this guy and replacing him with rhino, yes
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:lol okay this is all fake right this cant be real *looks for hidden cameras* there cant possibly be an admin that ran a riven rape rp discord like this its all a prank lol you got me jeffrey you son of a bitch
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idk I DM all the time and I wouldn't put a sex doll in my games in any case under any circumstances no matter how tastefully I think I could handle it because I am not playing to an audience of 6 Bust Rodds
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renessia posted:
As someone who's been in various tabletop games, forum RPs and so on— and learned how to do one well the hard way— this is
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renessia posted:
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lol oh no
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:check out my erotic rp based on the point and click adventure game titantic: adventure out of time. this roleplay contains scenes of explicit violence and gore enter at your own peril gamer The Journeyman Project: Turbofucked
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Yinlock posted:i know you've all expressed concerns about my insistence that you explore the mind of a man who really wants to gently caress clocks, but have you thought about the real victim here: me
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renessia posted:
Absolutely nope to anyone who would do this
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EorayMel posted:Wait is this a(n erotic) RP based on a 1990's point and click adventure? RP yes, ERP, no, save for the fact that that scene (which I do think was ill-advised, but I also never felt the need to go and read it). The game was basically set up as "Hey, if the video game doesn't happen, how does the conflict go down". Pod did not write it. And please quote:look. were people playing in this game without initially being aware the game contained this kind of thing? that is, at the moment play started, were there any people in the game who did not know about the girlfriend robots, or whatever the second 'incident' is? if the second incident happened after play started, were there people in the game who did not give permission for it and were not aware it happened? this is a yes/no question. Yes. By second incident, I refer to the Riven thing (which was the first thing to happen). Except for those two, I don't think anyone was even aware that it happened until postgame. renessia posted:
This was, I believe, after the formation of the offshoot discord that was harvesting private communications.
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Trust The Process
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The Lord of Hats posted:RP yes, ERP, no, save for the fact that that scene (which I do think was ill-advised, but I also never felt the need to go and read it). The game was basically set up as "Hey, if the video game doesn't happen, how does the conflict go down". Pod did not write it. What the gently caress does harvesting private communications mean??
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i would not play this guy's Day of the Tentacle RP
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The Lord of Hats posted:This was, I believe, after the formation of the offshoot discord that was harvesting private communications. "harvesting private communications" is a wild way to word "talking about wtf was going on in a place where our posts wouldn't get immediately deleted for 'threatening the sanctity of the roleplay'"
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Kild posted:What the gently caress does harvesting private communications mean?? It means they're trying to convince us the sex puppet gamemaster who apparently made people insanely uncomfortable did nothing wrong. I've only roleplayed via Discord a couple of times with friends but I'm 100% certain if someone had tried the stuff Podima (allegedly) did they would've been flattened immediately and with extreme prejudice. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Mar 19, 2023 |
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Harvesting private communications with the 6 Bust Rodds getting very into my erotic Codename: Iceman fanfiction roleplay
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shove the soup cans up my rear end in a top hat to proceed outlander
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Thanks for the explanation yall, sincerely. This is all foreign to me, as far as the RP. The consent and what people signed up for is what I can understand and is the crux of all of this. Also know that of course there are 9000 private conversations because we also want to respect the privacy of people who have information and don't want to be known publicly. I appreciate all of you involved who came forward both publicly and privately.
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i ahve no idea what is going on but the vibes are extremely lmao
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6 bust rodds are perched on the edge of a cliff.
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I don't know about this specific instance but most roleplaying games will have a rule that anyone is allowed to veto anything, at any time, for any reason or an unstated reason, and the correct response is to go along with that at the time and perhaps, *perhaps* discuss it afterwards if you want to know what was upsetting and what to avoid in future.
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that post is a gross sentiment, also anyone who gets so pissy they start talking about who owns the game is probably not very good to have in a role of responsibility also also having a huge pissy post about how you are solely responsible for all the content in the game and people need to trust you makes any kind of deflection like that poster above is doing pretty toothless. man said it himself, he has ownership lmao
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FWIW, I do not think that Podima is a sex pest. I do think that he doesn’t understand the effect that being in a position of power enables him, and this carelessness leads to abuses that while not intentional are still harmful. I don’t think he deserves a perma or whatever, but I agree in stating that I feel uncomfortable with the idea of him as an admin.
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ol yeller posted:lmfao at everything its so good
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you literally couldn't make this poo poo up as a way to make fun of the process of selecting new admins if I tried forever to do so. Hey all - we got new admins - and yes, two of them are broke brained politics guys but the last one? Thats right, the hit 1997 sequel to Myst - that's right, he is a weird sex roleplayer obsessed with rape for some reason and yes he will be deciding on who is good enough to post around here and I fully entrust him to make decisions for the forums
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Zòrk, or the 120 days of Sodom
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renessia posted:
Just want to add my voice to the chorus as someone who does tabletop RP stuff that this is an utterly hosed way to respond to someone flagging concerns. HopperUK posted:I don't know about this specific instance but most roleplaying games will have a rule that anyone is allowed to veto anything, at any time, for any reason or an unstated reason, and the correct response is to go along with that at the time and perhaps, *perhaps* discuss it afterwards if you want to know what was upsetting and what to avoid in future. This.
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littleorv posted:Trust
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Congrats to the new admins! Now let me read all these posts.
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This is all incredibly bizarre
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renessia posted:
this is some real creep poo poo, send the freak into orbit
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Good soup! posted:This is all incredibly bizarre you thought the last scandal was obscure let me tell you about online riven the sequel to myst forum freeform roleplaying
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Okay. That is tricking people into roleplaying weird sex poo poo. Permaban Podima. Fluffdaddy,, here is the sequence of events as I understand it. I wasn't involved but I'm familiar enough with RP and I was in a discord with Bees at the time and remember them mentioning it offhand a few times. 1. Podima recruits for a game on the forums. 2. The game contains the Girlfriend Robots. 3. The person assigned the girlfriend sex robots character does not like the character, but is told to 'trust' the people running the game. 4. Bees, Renessia, Meinberg (and possibly others?) make a group chat to discuss the game. At least one of Bees and Renessia (possibly both?) is not aware of the girlfriend sex robots due to the game's format and is creeped out by them when they learn of them. 5. They go through conversations they've had with the people running the game and try and corroborate other issues they've had. Someone with access to every channel in the discord is also creeped out and posts some creepy stuff that's gone on in the DMs between the people running the game and other players. 6. They try and discuss this with Podima and get this response. Even the person defending Podima acknowledges both 1) There was sex stuff happening in the game that some players did not know about and were not warned about. (Which, even if their characters weren't directly involved, is still weird and uncomfortable) and 2) The Lord of Hats posted:RP yes, ERP, no, save for the fact that that scene (which I do think was ill-advised, but I also never felt the need to go and read it). I really don't know how you could interpret this as anything less but cause for permabanning. He recruited people from the forums into an uncomfortable sexual situation without warning them beforehand, and then when they tried to express their concerns he tried to pressure and coerce them into it and paint himself as the victim. Like, even if you don't go and read it, it still happened in a game you are participating in. That would make most people uncomfortable! Toalpaz posted:I think pod did not handle that game well, and he his co-mod were not kind to us. They did a hilarious, 'heads down, those who think the game should end raise your hands.' and then removed all permissions from players who voted for the game to end while carrying on without them. Including any ability to communicate with other players. lmfao Endorph fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Mar 19, 2023 |
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I think pod did not handle that game well, and he his co-mod were not kind to us. They did a hilarious, 'heads down, those who think the game should end raise your hands.' and then removed all permissions from players who voted for the game to end while carrying on without them. Including any ability to communicate with other players.
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Fluffdaddy posted:This normal for RP? A list of hosed up poo poo this long? I am being serious with this question. Normal? No. But there are "serious" "adult-themed" etc. RPGs out there, and most folks consider them acceptable if they are run in a safe way. There are also "adult" themed games that are written by perverts and racists etc. and they use the "well actually this is mature gaming" line as an excuse. Let's go ahead and lay out what else is normal:
RPGs have a long and terrible history of unsafe gaming. Gary Gygax himself said women couldn't really roleplay because their brains were wrong or something. OG games like D&D had racism built into their DNA in some respects. Cons were at times notorious for covering up sexual assault and harassment, by con-goers and invited luminaries etc. Noted "D&D with porn stars" RPG author and, as concluded by a judge in a lawsuit this past month actual rapist Zac Smith engaged in years of harassment against trans gamers including driving one of TG's own trans goons entirely off the internet with his legions of doxxing followers. Gamers have developed tools for safer gaming over the years, and it is increasingly normal and common for these tools to be defaults throughout the hobby world, at least in the US. These tools are especially important in any game that will have difficult or potentially harmful or triggering themes. One of the most important tools is that a player must be allowed to stop the action and say "I am not OK with this" and the GM and other players must respect that and do whatever is necessary to fix it. This could be as innocuous as respecting a person's arachnophobia by deciding the spider monster is actually a lizard monster, or as obviously critical as deciding that a scene where a character is sexually assaulted is unacceptable and there must not be a sexual assault in this scene, or at all. When a player raises an issue with the game or their character, GMs who understand their responsibilities need to listen and make changes, irrespective of the desire to maintain coherence of the game, or be true to the story, or explore themes, or whatever. It's important not to ostracize or to make a player feel embarrassed for raising an issue, because that has a chilling effect on all players in that game. People already feel social pressure not to be disruptive; that's why you need to make it clear from the outset that a red flag (or whatever tool you use) is not "being disruptive", it's expected. Dissemination and understanding of these tools is of course not uniform, and there are gamers who push back hard against them, as being symptomatic of "woke culture" or "pussified gaming" and so on. We do not tolerate that poo poo in TG, though. I am not attempting to make any excuses here, I do not think I really understand what is alleged to have happened, nobody has ever raised any of this with me before. I just want to lay out what isn't shocking or weird about this situation, so that folks can focus on the important parts. e. A whole page of posts happened while I was typing this. Being thorough is bad if it means being too slow, obviously. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 19, 2023 |
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