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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮


What are the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup and/or Canadian Championship?
These two competitions are the tournaments to determine the best club, regardless of level of play, in their respective country. What this really means is any team, regardless of how good they are, can win a trophy.

What's so important about these competitions?
Other than the trophy, the winners of these competitions get access to the CONCACAF Champions League, where they will proceed to lose to a Mexican team in depressing fashion.

Who gets to play?
All professional teams NOT in MLS Next Pro; amateur and semi-pro teams must qualify in their respective leagues and competitions.

How do the competitions work?
Both competitions are single-leg knockout competitions. The U.S. Open Cup features 100 clubs, while this year's Canadian Championship features 14 clubs.

The U.S. Open Cup's competition is staggered by the quality of team:
First Round (USL League Two, NPSL, and other assorted amateur clubs enter)
Second Round (USL Championship, USL League One, and NISA clubs enter)
Third Round (most MLS clubs enter)
Fourth Round (MLS clubs playing in Champions League and four others enter)
Then the Round of 16 onwards

For the Canadian Championship, Toronto and the Vancouver Whitecaps receive byes to the quarterfinals, while the remaining 12 clubs play-in. The U.S. Open Cup is usually bracketed by geography, and draws happen every two rounds. The Canadian Championship's fixtures have all been set already.

Where can I watch these games?
The Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup will be on HBO Max (with some early-round matches on Bleacher Report's app and YouTube page), while OneSoccer hosts the Canadian Championship.

When does this start?
Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup: March 21
Canadian Championship: April 18

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Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

Aha! Someone did the thing.

Repoasting this from the USL thread.

quote:

I'm not sure if someone is going to create a US Open Cup thread for 2023, but I can't wait, gonna post this here:

https://twitter.com/opencup/status/1605335927517286400?lang=en

quote:

U.S. Open Cup Says Salt Bae Is Banned From Finals, FIFA Launches Investigation Into His World Cup Behavior

https://www.complex.com/sports/salt-bae-banned-us-open-cup-world-cup-behavior

quote:

THE WORLD CUP Published December 22, 2022 2:59pm EST

'Salt Bae' banned from US Open Cup final amid World Cup fiasco; FIFA launches an investigation

FIFA rules prohibit anyone but World Cup winners and heads of state from touching the trophy

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/salt-bae-banned-us-open-cup-final-amid-world-cup-fiasco-fifa-launches-investigation

The idea that Salt Bae might actually show up at the US Open Cup final and be turned away is to me highly amusing.

I doubt Salt Bae knows what the US Open Cup is.

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

[ pours out libation in memory of the Rochester Raging Rhinos. ]

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Do over Ham posted:

[ pours out libation in memory of the Rochester Raging Rhinos. ]

same but Edmonton

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Never heard of this competition. Sounds a lot like the FA Cup. Do the MLS teams actually put effort into this once they start getting into the fixtures?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

blue squares posted:

Never heard of this competition. Sounds a lot like the FA Cup. Do the MLS teams actually put effort into this once they start getting into the fixtures?

Much like the FA Cup, it matters to some teams more than others, and it also depends on how far they have gotten in the competition. You don't see a first-squad lineup for MLS teams in the Third Round very often, but as it gets closer to the final more starters will play.

The best example of "who wants it more" would be 2013 D.C. United, which won the U.S. Open Cup while achieving the worst record in League play in the HISTORY of MLS. They had more wins in Cup fixtures (4) than League fixtures (3)!!!!!

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

blue squares posted:

Never heard of this competition. Sounds a lot like the FA Cup. Do the MLS teams actually put effort into this once they start getting into the fixtures?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Open_Cup

It was in fact modeled on the FA Cup; the original trophy was donated by Thomas Dewar, 1st Baron Dewar, and the competition dates from the 1913–1914 season when it was known as the National Challenge Cup.

I don't like the name change to Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup or the change in the actual trophy, which is a nice enough trophy, but doesn't have the history of the original Dewar Cup trophy.

They should have taken a cue from the NHL and kept the original trophy and name (Stanley Cup/Dewar Cup); frankly the original trophy is a classic; it has been retired to the US National Soccer Hall of Fame, but they could have made multiple replicas of the original trophy, like what the NHL does with the Stanley Cup.

Instead in its infinite wisdom, USSF broke that connection to the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewar_Cup








whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Round of 32 (April 25-26) draw:

Northeast
Flower City Union (NISA) @ Loudon United (USL-C)
Hartford Athletic (USL-C) @ New England Revolution (MLS)

East
Richmond Kickers (USL-1)/Cleveland SC (USASA) winner [game kicked off just after the draw and is under a weather delay] @ DC United (MLS)
Maryland Bobcats (NISA) @ Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL-C)

Atlantic
Charlotte Independence (USL-1) @ Charleston Battery (USL-C)
South Georgia Tormenta (USL-1) @ Charlotte FC (MLS)

Southeast
Houston Dynamo (MLS) @ Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C)
Inter Miami (MLS) @ Miami FC (USL-C)

South
Memphis 901 (USL-C) @ Atlanta United (MLS)
San Antonio FC (USL-C) @ Nashville FC (MLS)
Chattanooga FC (NISA) @ Birmingham Legion (USL-C)

North
Minnesota United (MLS) @ Detroit City FC (USL-C)
Forward Madison (USL-1)/Chicago House (USASA) [they don't play until the 11th] @ Chicago Fire (MLS)

Midwest
Union Omaha (USL-1) @ St. Louis City (MLS)
Tulsa Athletic (USASA) @ Sporting KC (MLS)

Mountain
Northern Colorado Hailstorm (USL-1) @ Colorado Rapids (MLS)
Real Salt Lake (MLS) @ Las Vegas Lights (USL-C)
Phoenix Rising (USL-C) @ New Mexico United (USL-C)

West
Oakland Roots (USL-C) @ Sacramento Republic (USL-C)
San Jose Earthquakes (USL-C) @ Monterey Bay (USL-C)

Pacific
Orange County (USL-C) @ Portland Timbers (MLS)
San Diego Loyal (USL-C) @ Seattle Sounders (MLS)

whypick1 fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 7, 2023

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

whypick1 posted:

Pacific
Orange County (USL-C) @ Portland Timbers (MLS)
San Diego Loyal (USL-C) @ Seattle Sounders (MLS)

Pretty sure this is incorrect, I thought it was tradition at this point that Portland and Seattle had to immediately face each other in the Open Cup.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


:siren:POTENTIAL UPSET IN THE WORKS WITH TSS ROVERS, A SEMI-PRO TEAM, UP 2-0 ON VALOUR AT HALFTIME:siren:

Azerban
Oct 28, 2003



Stiev Awt posted:

:siren:POTENTIAL UPSET IN THE WORKS WITH TSS ROVERS, A SEMI-PRO TEAM, UP 2-0 ON VALOUR AT HALFTIME:siren:

3-0 haha

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Not even 15 minutes in and Minnesota United are losing to Detroit, lol

E: Loons score 3 times in less than 10 minutes. Whoops.

whypick1 fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 26, 2023

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

whypick1 posted:

Not even 15 minutes in and Minnesota United are losing to Detroit, lol

E: Loons score 3 times in less than 10 minutes. Whoops.

freezingcoldtakes.docx

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

I had no idea that Frank Yallop was now the coach for Monterey Bay. Nice win for them at home against San Jose, must have been extra special for him.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


Going to the Vegas vs RSL match tonight. Pretty excited to watch the team's first chance at taking a scalp.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010



Goddamn it's nice to be back in a tiny stadium watching Open Cup

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
wtg atl

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

2-0 Seattle reserves

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
What a terrible PK call

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

What the gently caress

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

binge crotching posted:

What the gently caress

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
See, that's a PK, not that bullshit San Diego got earlier.

Karma, bitch.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

I'll take it

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


Vegas held RSL scoreless through 90, but welp. 1-3.

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Round of 32 Draw (May 9-10):

Group 1
New Mexico United (USL-C) @ Austin FC (MLS)
Sporting KC (MLS) @ Houston Dynamo (MLS)

Group 2
Memphis 901 FC (USL-C) @ Birmingham Legion (USL-C)
FC Dallas (MLS) @ Nashville SC (MLS)

Group 3
Seattle Sounders (MLS) @ LA Galaxy (MLS)
Real Salt Lake (MLS) @ Portland Timbers (MLS)

Group 4
Los Angeles FC (MLS) @ Monterey Bay FC (USL-C)
Colorado Rapids (MLS) @ Sacramento Republic (USL-C)

Group 5
New York City FC (MLS) @ FC Cincinnati (MLS)
Columbus Crew (MLS) @ Loudoun United (USL-C)

Group 6
DC United (MLS) @ New York Red Bulls (MLS)
Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL-C) @ New England Revolution (MLS)

Group 7
Orlando City SC (MLS) @ Charlotte FC (MLS)
Charleston Battery (USL-C) @ Inter Miami CF (MLS)

Group 8
St. Louis City SC (MLS) @ Chicago Fire (MLS)
Philadelphia Union (MLS) @ Minnesota United (MLS)

whypick1 fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Apr 29, 2023

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
God, I hope we can beat NMU.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice

whypick1 posted:

Group 5
New York City FC (MLS) @ FC Cincinnati (MLS)
Columbus Crew (MLS) @ Loudoun United (USL-C)

drat I really wanted to play the Crew in another hell is real match

JerryRudd
Apr 17, 2002

Power of the Pornstache

Edward Mass posted:

God, I hope we can beat NMU.

Same, we have to win a cup leg at some point right? Right?

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

binge crotching posted:



Goddamn it's nice to be back in a tiny stadium watching Open Cup

I vaguely recall the Rapids playing an Open Cup match at a public school complex closer to the Rockies than to downtown (against KC even).

https://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/programs/athletics_activities/athletics/stadiums/north_area_athletic_complex__naac__

Huh, the Monterey Bay FC website has them hosting LAFC on the 9th.

EDIT: Yeah looks like you have that group flipped, coloradorapids.com has them playing Sacramento.

Moktaro fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 29, 2023

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet

Moktaro posted:

Huh, the Monterey Bay FC website has them hosting LAFC on the 9th.

EDIT: Yeah looks like you have that group flipped, coloradorapids.com has them playing Sacramento.

Don't know what you're talking about :ninja:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
I....guess the Open Cup's going to be free-to-watch this year? Which is fine by me.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
jozy retire you useless fuckass

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Stay classy Toronto

https://twitter.com/RudiSchuller/status/1656109644396331008

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
St Louis seems bad tbh

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
Someone check on Wicka, his Riverhounds beat New England.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
lmao minnesoda

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


love a card for diving, me

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


generally not what you want to have your manager say about you

https://twitter.com/BrianSciaretta/status/1656131564898484224

Doctor Teeth fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 10, 2023

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet

Doctor Teeth posted:

generally not what you want to have your manager say about you

https://twitter.com/BrianSciaretta/status/1656130058413654018

tweet deleted

paddyboat posted:

lmao minnesoda

:emptyquote:

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paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
this is wild, man

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