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Shiv forever lost her Good Lib card when she personally, deliberately bullied a SA victim into silence.
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No such thing as a Good Lib. Pretty sure building SA victims into silence is just what they do.
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Jan 19, 2024 19:43
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regulargonzalez posted:I think Ken still could have saved it after Shiv brought up the dead waiter.
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Kendall being an idiot who can't read another human because of the way his dad broke him is a main character theme. There are a dozen ways he could've cinched it. Failure is Kendall's place, dramaturgically.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:It was a weirdly underappreciated (in other places) recurring point in Succession that so many big business and political moves are just the random whims of idiots. Shiv picking the probably still worse for her option because she had bad vibes and was pissed at Kendall put a good bow on it.
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Valentin posted:it's really not a very complicated scene imo in that basically every motivation shiv has is readable right on the surface or has been extensively highlighted in the preceding episodes. shiv states her immediate problem up front: she needs a moment, it's a big decision. it represents kendall's final victory and, to her, a confirmation of every dig and snide insinuation that she's somehow lesser, every moment she's been locked out of the business side of things by her father and every other sexist rear end in a top hat (also, there's lots of practical and emotional reasons for literally anyone but especially his siblings to feel iffy about putting kendall in the hot seat). also, the last few episodes of the season have really drive home that control of waystar isn't just a family matter, and it has real political implications. for all that she places ambition, power, and status above all else, i think shiv never really stops thinking of herself as a sensible liberal who is horrified of mecken even as she convinces herself she can play him. i think she's still persuadable at this point. all ken has to do is reassure her that they're a team, that this is actually their joint victory. he just has to not flip his lid, and not start giving some kind of insane monologue. gently caress yeah, great post
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there's a poster in the Succession thread that's a rough diamond in the poo poo rocks. Fast track to management.
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Still think sometimes about that last moment with Shiv and Tom where she gives that meek congrats in the car and he responds with a sterile Oh, Thank You Ending for the ages edit Its also fun to watch Tom and Logan in the first episode as he tries to give him that gaudy watch with that super cringe joke and thinking "this goober ends up securing the whole fuckin bag" lmao sure okay fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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Jan 20, 2024 13:18
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Tom seems like a bumpkin in a fish out of water situation, but plays it near-perfectly. Sucks up constantly, hides the cruise poo poo, goes to ATN which is Logan's baby, delivers skulls, plays his part in Logan's plan to get Pierce and is the only one not to get criticized about it, backs Logan over Kendall and the other kids repeatedly, gives Logan a grand kid, nice to his "betters" but treats his underlings and enemies maliciously. About the only thing Tom screws up in Logan's eyes is the congressional hearing and it doesn't matter anyway. Tom also protects Greg during the retreat when he could get the focus off himself, but that's not a mistake.
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Cranappleberry posted:Tom seems like a bumpkin in a fish out of water situation, but plays it near-perfectly. Sucks up constantly, hides the cruise poo poo, goes to ATN which is Logan's baby, delivers skulls, plays his part in Logan's plan to get Pierce and is the only one not to get criticized about it, backs Logan over Kendall and the other kids repeatedly, gives Logan a grand kid, nice to his "betters" but treats his underlings and enemies maliciously. And all because he manages to notice the simple thing everyone else is too deluded to notice: "I've never seen Logan get hosed once". Tom is a terrible human being but being outside this privileged bubble made him have just enough awareness to come out on top.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:It was a weirdly underappreciated (in other places) recurring point in Succession that so many big business and political moves are just the random whims of idiots.
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Tom is a business master and also the most handsome
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Vegetable posted:This, but somehow people in this thread and elsewhere won’t shut up about how Logan is a business genius or how Tom played a masterstroke. People will seriously quote “You’re not serious people” like Logan was an omniscient narrator or cite Tom’s slavish loyalty as a sapient corporate trick. Gotta believe the world is fair and just. Which means the people at the top must be smart and capable. Smarter and more capable than me personally anyway.
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Vegetable posted:This, but somehow people in this thread and elsewhere won’t shut up about how Logan is a business genius or how Tom played a masterstroke. People will seriously quote “You’re not serious people” like Logan was an omniscient narrator or cite Tom’s slavish loyalty as a sapient corporate trick. tbf they were not, as it turned out, serious people
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everything i do, I do for this thread
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christmas boots posted:tbf they were not, as it turned out, serious people Yeah, he wasn't wrong. Two of my favorite Logan deliveries: "You're not a killer... You have to be a killer." and "Life's not knights on horseback. It's a number on a piece of a paper. It's a fight for a knife, in the mud."
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This was a very well written show
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Hughmoris posted:Yeah, he wasn't wrong. That second line could pass for a quote from a Cormac McCarthy novel. It's certainly his MO (hell, Blood Meridian features an early fight for a knife in the mud and god only knows the atrocities that occur for numbers on pieces of papers in his work).
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Actually I think youll all agree with me that the best line is BOAR ON THE FLOOR
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"Can't make a Tomelette without breaking some Greggs"
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It's somewhere you're really living. Living Plus.
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Living in the sand, perhaps thriving in the sand???
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I feel like I might not like it, in the death pit?
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knox_harrington posted:"Can't make a Tomelette without breaking some Greggs" This was so inspired. I imagine the writer who came up with this walking with a spring in their step for the rest of the day.
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Crescent Wrench posted:This was so inspired. I imagine the writer who came up with this walking with a spring in their step for the rest of the day. I chose to believe Jesse Armstrong came up with that line first and created Tom and Greg specifically to make it work.
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Huh. Was curious what Jesse Armstrong's next project was going to be and apparently it's a US version of Peep Show? Curious.
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Who want to smell Greg’s finger? Also for full bore (on the floor) screaming I like I’M TURNING A loving TANKER HERE
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Crescent Wrench posted:This was so inspired. I imagine the writer who came up with this walking with a spring in their step for the rest of the day. When you hit upon a pun that only applies to an extremely precise scenario, it's seriously the highest form of comedy.
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I shan't become that, no. Alas Kentucky, Willa. Alas vanity.
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If they had just embraced The Quad Squad, they would have won as a family!
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If it is to be said, so it be. It is.
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beepo posted:If they had just embraced The Quad Squad, they would have won as a family! *in a weird sing-song voice* Disgusting Brothers!
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https://youtu.be/5fSuPDRYaKs This scene ends on the best punchline
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Vegetable posted:https://youtu.be/5fSuPDRYaKs "Well, it sure as fuckin' poo poo doesn't say Shiv"
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beepo posted:If they had just embraced The Quad Squad, they would have won as a family! I can't leave the fly guys behind! That's the fly guy code!
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I have just started watching for the first time. On season 1 and so far this is really great! All of these characters are gigantic assholes.
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Orange Devil posted:No such thing as a Good Lib. Pretty sure bullying SA victims into silence is just what they do. Sure, and this is pretty overtly baked into the show. It’s one of its greatest strengths. ATN is FOX News and Pierce is MSNBC, and both are equally cynical exercises in corporate profiteering whose “ideologies” are pure branding. Of course Shiv did that…everyone in their world is so beyond consequence, the literal only concern they still have is protecting shareholder interests and keeping their hand active in some boardroom circlejerk.
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I said come in! posted:I have just started watching for the first time. On season 1 and so far this is really great! All of these characters are gigantic assholes. BOAR ON THE FLOOR!!!
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