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if you live in Ohio please go vote down Issue 1 today so the state doesn't get even worse. thanks
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US food insecurity is way up in the past 2 years and is approaching 2007/2008 levels. The percentage of Americans putting off medical treatment is the highest it's been in 20 years. Again, a big spike in the past 2 years. The dream of home ownership for most Americans has never been less realistic, according to the Home Affordability Index. This thread loves to point out the polls and metrics that support Bidenomics, but there are plenty of metrics supporting the idea that the economy is bad, still getting worse, and people are getting desperate. I'm going to trust those metrics since they agree with my own experience, the experiences of most of the people in my life, and what I see with my own eyes as I shop at the grocery store or travel around and see the desperation and squalor firsthand. Biden and the Democrats are steering right into the iceberg. They're going to discover (not for the first time) that talking down to people, minimizing their struggles, and handwaving with graphs and metrics is tone-deaf and self-defeating. Taking all the taxpayer money that *should* be used to support our own people and giving it all to Israel is just doubling down on bad (and inhumane) policy.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:06
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:There are two choices. Biden is the less bad one. Not voting for him helps the worse choice win. That’s all there is to it. That's not all there is to it, though. Biden is actively supporting war crimes and genocide. Biden is actively refusing to address material conditions and has taken away the support Americans previously had, and has failed to deliver material improvements that were main planks of his campaign. The only power we have as voters is voting for someone else or withholding our votes. That's our lever of power. "The other guy is worse" hasn't worked and has resulted in increasingly bad economic and social conditions for everyone in America. This is a pushover mindset.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:11
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Fart Amplifier posted:Not electing the less worse candidate is why abortion has been banned in several states. Not electing Clinton resulted in women being jailed for abortions and increasing bans on trans people. Roe could have been codified at multiple points during Democratic control of government. They chose not to do so. American workers and working conditions have steadily eroded over the past 40 years and the Democrats led the globalization & capitalist charge that did the damage. If you believe real change and improvement is not possible under Democrats or Republicans - as I firmly do - then the only rational and moral choice is to vote for a third party. In the short term it is a protest and a concrete sign of dissatisfaction with the current regime, and in the long term it helps build the nucleus for a realistic third choice in American government. Warren supporters famously said "She's electable if you vote for her!". Let's apply that logic and enthusiasm to future candidates and parties. The Democrats are supporting genocide *right now*. The Democrats are eroding the safety net and failing to deliver on campaign promises *right now*. That's much more persuasive to me than the tired old strategy of gesturing at Trump or another Republican boogeyman. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 9, 2023 |
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Dec 9, 2023 22:28
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socialsecurity posted:There were very very few times they had a filibuster proof majority to codify Roe, basically what 40-50 days during the Obama administration. But as you seem to already throwing minorities under the bus so you can feel good about your protest vote I don't think facts matter much here. Minorities are constantly being thrown under the bus by Biden and the Democrats right now. Look at the migrant camps on the Mexican border. They haven't gone away. Turn on your TV and observe in horror as the US casually abets and participates in the genocide of minorities in Gaza. Your argument is hollow and you're falling back on emotion and personal attacks. Minorities are being herded into camps and blown into pieces with Biden's blessing and enthusiastic support *right now*. Not sure facts are on your side here. They're on your TV and social media feed at this very moment.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:39
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:If we're looking to shame and blame people let's throw it at anyone who chose Biden in the primary, with his extensive history of championing military interventions that kill hundreds of thousands. Great post, you nailed it. A good reminder that Biden isn't the lesser of two evils, he's one of the main architects of America's Middle Eastern policy in the 21st century. He has a significant amount of blood on his hands. More than Trump, surely.
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Dec 10, 2023 03:20
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Main Paineframe posted:Well, sure, if we assume that the Republicans hold the Senate in 2016 and 2018 and 2020, along with a Republican also winning office in 2020, then Roe probably would have been in trouble regardless. Of course, that was not part of the initial hypothetical either of you were responding to, absolutely none of those would be obvious, immediate, inevitable consequences of a Hillary win. Politics would have looked very different in 2017 after a Trump loss. This is laughably incorrect. Leftist positions and programs to enact meaningful material change poll extremely well. Leftist programs that have been implemented (like social security, the 40 hour workweek, COVID checks, etc) become wildly popular with the electorate. You can't use a lack of electoral success to prove that leftism doesn't work, because both parties sabotage outsiders and outsider positions at every available opportunity. And the US mass media upholds the status quo at all times as well. Your "tons of evidence" is nothing but fruit from the poisoned tree. This argument is every bit as ridiculous as Republicans claiming that "socialism doesn't work, just look at Central America" while completely ignoring America's long record of interfering in Central American politics to make sure that socialism doesn't work!
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Dec 10, 2023 16:42
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Nucleic Acids posted:If Joe Niden loses it will be his fault and that of the Democrats for running him in the first place, not the people who refuse to vote for him because of his complicity in a genocide. Exactly. If this is The Most Important Election Of Our Lifetime and Democracy Is On The Line, then maybe spend 2020-2024 prepping a less flawed candidate or delivering meaningful material results to the voters you're depending on? Don't tell me incumbents always run for reelection: Biden heavily dangled being a 1 term president during his campaign, he's clearly aging out of the job requirements, and they're claiming democracy is Over if the next president isn't a Democrat. Rolling out the same tired and (fatally?) flawed administration for a second time doesn't meet the moment to face what the Democrats say is an existential threat. If democracy is on the ballot then they should have acted like it. The economy not in good shape, and Biden can't point at Trump or use COVID as a shield this time. You can't expect the voters to take a big bite of the proverbial poop sandwich and vote for you anyway. Trump's a horrible guy but his decision to throw cash directly at Operation Warp Speed was the right decision and saved a ton of lives. And his decision to pay the voters with direct checks was the right decision as well, and was more direct material support than I've seen from Democrats in my 40 years on Earth. Biden has fallen short of a horrible man and a horrible president. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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Dec 10, 2023 19:16
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Barrel Cactaur posted:So your primary works cited on why trump is better is that he just straight up bribed the voters in a one off. Praxis is when the minorities go in the crusher so i can get a thousand dollars. The minorities are in the crusher with either party. Turn on your TV. There are more in the crusher under Biden right now than were under the crusher under Trump. This is not an endorsement of Trump. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 10, 2023 20:13
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Gripweed posted:If Biden loses because he lost the support of people who care about the lives of Muslims, then the Democrats might learn that they need to change their policies to court those voters. I think we're being told pretty consistently that those voters need to wake up, do some growing up, hold their noses, and vote like adults (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 10, 2023 20:17
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fresh news from CBS polling: https://i.imgur.com/BSAz832.png The last few pages have been less economy-specific but it still seems relevant to the general discussion of Biden's reelection. Most people are doing worse than a year ago and not keeping up with inflation. This matches my experience and that of almost everyone in my circle. The Stancils and Biden surrogates of the world will not convince us otherwise.
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Dec 10, 2023 20:45
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rkd_ posted:If only that same outrage was directed at the Arab states who have left the people of Gaza to their fate for decades. No I'm sorry, that's not how it works. US citizens directing their outrage at US politicians is correct and logical, not directing their outrage at foreign governments. A community withholding their votes from a president that is directly, unashamedly, and defiantly participating in the genocide of their friends and families is understandable and I don't think you can handwave it away as "manufactured outrage" without coming off looking like a terrible person. Trump's theoretical future horribleness does not outweigh the actual horribleness Biden is doing right now, day after day.
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Jan 27, 2024 01:56
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Natty Ninefingers posted:But I am still gonna pull in the right direction. Maybe if we get going proper this time, next time will be a little better. Same here. That's why I voted third party in 2020, I feel vindicated about that on a daily basis, and I'll do it again in 2024. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are moving in the wrong direction and saying/doing indefensible things. Rewarding the Democrats for being less bad is not working. Our collective problems are only getting worse, regardless of which major party is at the wheel.
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Jan 27, 2024 10:26
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Xiahou Dun posted:He’s going up against Trump who is even more unpopular, so it’s kind of a moot point. Unfortunately you're misinformed. Biden is more unpopular now than at any point in Trump's presidency. I think it's only just starting to sink in how much self-inflicted damage Joe has done. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story%3fid=106335244 quote:Joe Biden's job approval rating has dropped to a low for any president in the past 15 years, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds. Xiahou Dun posted:Yes, and most people still don’t think he’ll be the Republican nominee. Campaigning hasn’t started and Trump has fallen out of view of people who don’t follow the news. This is your opinion, not fact. Not appropriate for D&D. Internalize and accept the data and the reality of the track Biden is on at this time. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Jan 28, 2024 05:09
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B B posted:This may have been true before the primaries started, but most Americans expect Trump to be the nominee: I agree. At this point I would make Trump a 60/40 favorite in November based on the polling and the downward trajectory of Biden's term. Which is a breathtaking failure for an administration that was given the incredible gift of following Trump.
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Jan 28, 2024 05:16
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theCalamity posted:In a slightly longer clip, she says that she wants to ask the FBI to investigate some of the protest groups this is really outrageous and anti-democratic. Do Pelosi/Biden/etc not realize how much damage they're doing to perceptions of America both home and abroad? Or do they just not care? I'm guessing it's the latter. Their greatest strength and election platform was contrasting their behavior with Trump's, and they have intentionally thrown that advantage right in the dumpster numerous times since 2020. It's both inexplicable and incredible!
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https://x.com/npl_palestine/status/1752371370598834607?s=20 Looks to me like this story has legs and some legitimacy. It's horrible optics in any case and adds to a growing narrative that the Democrats are pretty similar to Republicans when the rubber meets the road. Trump has a 4-5 point lead nationally and the Biden team is acting like he's the one 4-5 points ahead like he was in 2020. They're acting like they can win with just their diehards and they can't. The hubris is striking. FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 31, 2024 |
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