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Russia can't even get Belarus to switch to a common currency. And that project was in the works for almost 25 years now. In other news, there's an ongoing controversy surrounding one of the most recognised Orthodox monasteries/museums in Eastern Europe. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65117269 The Kyiv Monastery of the Caves is a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and as such can't belong to any religious organisation. Ukrainian state for the past 30 years was renting the museum to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. They've split from the Moscow patriarchate after the invasion and voiced support to Ukrainian army, but due to obvious reasons and scandals with pro-Russian clergy and religious, for the past year there was a lot of talk about either banning the UOC outright or requiring it by law that they mention that they are governed from Moscow in all official church documents. In the end, it was decided not to renew the lease with the UOC, and all monks and priests are supposed to vacate the premises. They've declined and filed an appeal, but the court decided that they still should leave while the appeal is being considered. The latest development is that the vicegerent of the monastery, Metropolit Pavel, has been arrested on the suspicion of religious hate speech and denial or support of Russia's aggression. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65148386 Throughout the year, there were some cases of UOC parishes and clergy switching to OCU, sometimes under suspicious circumstances, but despite UOC's waning popularity and controversial status, a considerable crowd of people gathered at the monastery to support monks and priests. There hasn't been any violence, thankfully, but the rhetoric on both sides is getting more and more pointed, especially now with Pavel's arrest. When Zelenskyy was just elected, he made a choice not to interfere with religious matters in contrast with Poroshenko who successfully lobbied for the creation of OCU in the first place. It seemed like the conflict was pretty much over. The leaders of both OCU and UOC would meet at official events, they met with Zelenskyy, recorded addresses together with other religious leaders and so on. There obviously was a lot of bad blood between the two churches, but they were at least willing to coexist. Now Zelenskyy says recent government actions against UOC are part of 'protecting nation's spiritual independence', which I think is a much riskier and ethically dubious strategy. Especially considering that the UOC higher-ups already understood full well what position they were in and were happy to call on their faithful to join the army, expel priests who still tried to preach about the ideology of the 'Russian world', etc.
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Apr 1, 2023 16:05
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The collateral casualty count is going up so far, from 6 in Fatherboxx's tweet to 15 as per BBC's latest. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65155075 Just like with Dugina, I suspect it's more about who they realistically could get. People like Solovyov or Simonyan are probably under constant surveillance and have security personnel attached to them when they attend events.
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Apr 2, 2023 17:51
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assassination of Tatarskiy like that? Big Z-blogger, sure, but he was hardly a superstar.
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a podcast for cats posted:There's a taped confession of the woman who brought the explosive on video already. It raises more questions than it answers though: I wouldn't call it a confession. The way she phrases it implies she didn't know the bust was going to explode. She says she was arrested for 'being at the place where Tatarskiy was assassinated'. E: Apparently her husband claims she was told the bust was supposed to be just bugged https://t.me/svtvnews/26411 quote:According to Dmitriy Rylov's version, the young woman was tricked into bringing a bust with explosived to Tatarskiy's event. She allegedly did not know that there was a bomb inside and admitted that the "gift" would simply enable her to "gain access" to the war correspondent. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Apr 3, 2023 13:22
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Willo567 posted:I get that it's just talk, but would his time frame actually be realistic or not? The point is to feed Russia spooky disinfo (might be working, considering construction of new defence lines in Crimea, pulling away resources from other places), but also, and maybe more importantly, to keep people's hopes up. Admitting that the war may or may not go on for years would absolutely destroy public morale.
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Apr 6, 2023 00:57
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Incidentally, FT's published an interview with the deputy head of Zelenskyy’s office, where he suggests that retaking Crimea through military means is not the only option on the table. https://www.ft.com/content/d68b4007-4ddf-4320-b29a-f2eee2662d6e quote:“If we will succeed in achieving our strategic goals on the battlefield and when we will be on the administrative border with Crimea, we are ready to open [a] diplomatic page to discuss this issue,” Sybiha said, referring to Kyiv’s long-planned counteroffensive.
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Apr 6, 2023 02:27
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Discendo Vox posted:Ukraine War Plans Leak Prompts Pentagon Investigation Pretty sure it was the other way around. The one with good numbers for Russia looks obviously shopped. Like, really obvious, and some Russian tg channels point it out, too. Not sure if it would be kosher to post them here to get thread's opinion. It's hard for me to imagine that the thing is real to begin with, though. The investigation, I imagine, is supposed to take place even if a leak is merely alleged. E: \/\/\/ Well, there you go. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Apr 7, 2023 02:23
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golden bubble posted:And now it gets even funnier No way. Wow_mao is a meme shitpost youtube channel. I wouldn't trust a random guy on twitter who says 'yeah, I posted that on discord'. His twitter @ is not even the same.
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Apr 7, 2023 18:17
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As for the thread title, '@everyone here are some fun maps'
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Apr 7, 2023 18:19
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His account appears to be dead now.
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Apr 7, 2023 19:12
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Nenonen posted:Would you say... servant of Rejoice! Everyone will soon be able to bask in his wisdom yet again thanks to the miracle of AI. https://cybernews.com/news/russia-zhirinovsky-ai-chatbot/
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Apr 8, 2023 20:13
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I've heard it suggested that Pentagon documents can only be printed on special printers, and the documents from the leak looked like they were printed on a regular printer. This would mean someone's hacked Pentagon's proprietary file format and just printed them at home, as opposed to someone taking photos at work or bringing them home from briefings. Not sure if the proprietary format part is something that is widely known or something that the one expert I listened on the BBC Russia podcast imagines Pentagon's document flow to be like, though.
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Apr 12, 2023 14:33
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There's a huge concerted propaganda effort to portray T-54/55 tanks as Leopard killers because the old type of barrel they have is better for penetrating armour from a long distance or something. Hundreds of accounts constantly posting about these legendary threaded barrels under every article and tg post about it.
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Apr 14, 2023 00:30
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Akratic Method posted:China now claiming they they won't supply Russia (or Ukraine to make it sound fair and neutral, but I don't think there was ever much chance of that anyway). They've been saying this from the start. They're saying it now more often because there were allegations about them supplying stuff to Russia.
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Apr 14, 2023 21:01
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In his latest proclamation, Prigozhin suggested that Putin should basically say that all the goals of his special military operation have been achieved, stop all offensives, and only defend whatever Russia's managed to occupy so far. On the other hand, he also says his mercenaries are still grinding down Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut with great success, so mixed messages there. I don't think, however, that there is really anything factual to suggest that Ukraine is doing better than it looks apart from wishful thinking. Maybe new information will emerge later, but from what's in the news and in official reports, the Bakhmut stretch of the front is not looking great.
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Apr 16, 2023 01:07
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Moon Slayer posted:Isn't he making a joke about how Putin thinks Ukraine is an artificial state? He's mirroring that rhetoric, but it's not a joke. It's propaganda and pandering.
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Apr 17, 2023 18:54
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Akratic Method posted:What the hell is this map? Looks like he's reassigning Manchuria to the far eastern Russian successor? Or is K the Ukrainian-language initial for China and he thinks they'll grab the Russian far east in this putative collapse? And Japan is supposed to conquer Sakhalin, I guess just because they had some colonies there in the old fascist days? К means China. ЦАР is Central African Republic. The map is not entirely serious. E: Asian makes more sense, I guess, lol. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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Apr 17, 2023 20:46
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Seeing some conflicting reports about the start of Ukraine's counteroffensive. A lot of videos and maps floating around implying it's already started, but nothing solid, as far as I can tell. The official comment from MOD is also not very straightforward. https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/904945.html quote:[T]his is a huge complex of different activities that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are currently carrying out. First and foremost, it is about preparing people for a set of actions: both defensive and offensive. But all of this together, if we are talking about our strategic goal, can be called counter-offensive measures. So maybe no actual counteroffensive yet, but ongoing active preparations that people mistake for the final phase.
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Apr 19, 2023 14:10
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Can't arrows like that mean something generic on military vehicles? Like American tanks have these things
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Apr 19, 2023 21:48
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Moon Slayer posted:So, uh, who's in charge of this thread now? Is ... is it me? fatherboxx is still thread IK.
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Apr 20, 2023 14:58
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Orthanc6 posted:Russia, where the rock and the hard place is making up a story about your fighter jets bombing your own supermarket to hide that Ukraine can strike that far, or admitting that you actually did bomb your own supermarket. At least there are no casualties this time. Last year, at least two Russian military planes crashed into residential buildings (one in Irkutsk, and another in Yeysk).
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Apr 20, 2023 23:53
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A really insane music video by one of the most prominent Russian 'patriot' artists, SHAMAN, was released yesterday. It's called We. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXreSAXf1V8 quote:In the sun blazing above us, His breakaway hit was called I'm Russian, so it's not new, but his stage persona has now really evolved into, uhm, well, you can see for yourself. Hard to think that the date of the release wasn't chosen on purpose here. The sun in the meadow is summery warm and all that.
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Apr 21, 2023 14:28
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ГБС.
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Apr 25, 2023 22:41
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I've been following this and goddamn it's managed to enormous piss of former Soviet Union States along with the rest of Europe. I've heard some things saying that this was a test by Xi to see how serious they are with military defense but it just seems to have further emboldened Europe. If you look up the interview where Lu Shaye blurted that out, it was clearly not premediated. The journalist was pushing him on Taiwan, the ambassador quickly became agitated, and the result was this haphazard whataboutism to dodge the question.
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Apr 26, 2023 18:46
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Major is not exactly a military rank on the level of making strategic decisions.
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Apr 26, 2023 22:46
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Putin has signed a law that pressures people living in occupied areas either to accept Russian citizenship or to leave. http://static.kremlin.ru/media/events/files/ru/ATH3qrAdi1MvoCAuCEO12ijX1s7jpDxN.pdf Among other things, it sanctions deportations of 'foreign citizens' who 'may pose threat to national security of the Russian Federation, including those who support violent overthrow of constitutional order, finance or plan to finance terrorist (extremist) acts, aid in committing or commit such acts, or support terrorist (extremist) activities in any other fashion, or encroaching on public order by participating in unlawful public gathering, protests, marches'. Basically, anyone who disagrees with Russian occupation can be deported unless they become Russian citizens, in which case they'll simply go to prison for the crimes outlined above. There are some stipulations, but people with Ukrainian passports have it until June to make the decision. On the bright side, the law also makes it easier for 'foreign citizens' to seek employment by waiving requirements for obtaining permit for work in Russia. You can safely and legally work for your occupier while weighing if you want to be deported! E: Also, it's very timely, considering today's PACE resolution on forcible transfer of Ukrainian children. https://pace.coe.int/en/news/9075/the-forcible-transfer-and-russification-of-ukrainian-children-shows-evidence-of-genocide-says-pace Paladinus fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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Apr 27, 2023 20:48
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fatherboxx posted:US estimates from the leaked documents are 40-50k KIA Worth noting that Ukrainian and I suspect US estimates include LDNR combatants, while BBC only monitor soldiers from Russia proper, and they count Wagner mercenaries separately.
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Apr 28, 2023 18:26
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There was at least one Zambian student who died in Ukraine fighting for Wagner. But he was recruited in a Russian prison. https://www.africanews.com/2022/11/29/unknown-aircraft-targets-wagner-base-in-c-african-republic/ For almost a year now, there's been a lot of propaganda talk about bringing in literally millions of eager volunteer freedom fighters from Syria, North Korea, Mali, etc., and literally nothing has happened since, as far as anyone can tell, to make this a reality. Western intelligence have no information about foreign recruits being shipped to Russia for training, or even any Wagner recruiting recruiting campaigns for war in Ukraine abroad (if anything, they're starting to recruit more Russians to send to Africa again).
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May 2, 2023 13:08
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WarpedLichen posted:I've always thought that the Ukraine interception rate was overinflated for propaganda purposes but I guess if even OSINT radio monitors can get advance notice of missile strikes there's no reason the military can't do the same and prepare. Based on reports about civilian casualties, and very little fanfare from Russia from recent attacks, it does seem like the numbers are at least very close to real. What is maybe used for propaganda by Ukraine is when a downed missile hits residential area, and it's not clear if it was going to hit it anyway or was targeting a supposed military facility. But then I'm not sure even Ukraine would be able to confirm it either way reliably, while Russia obviously claim they only attack military targets.
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May 2, 2023 20:38
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spankmeister posted:Did you miss the part where Russia hit a residential building, killing 20+ people including small children, and the Russian MoD posted the following image on their social media? I don't think a telegram post, even on the official ministry channel, is an actual admission of guilt. The official line still is (and always has been) that Russia only hits military targets, and if some civilians die, it's only because Ukraine puts military targets so close to civilians, if not outright that Ukraine bombs itself.
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May 2, 2023 21:16
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Chalks posted:I wonder whether the high number of Russian attacks hitting civilian targets is a form of survivor bias too. Assuming that Ukraine has the bulk of it's air defense around military targets, it might be that the intercept rate is higher against missiles with legitimate targets. Maybe the ones that tend to get through, due to bad intel, incompetence or malice, are hitting places with no AA cover at all. Russia has just hit another shopping centre, this time in Kherson, a clear example of an indiscriminate attack. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-civilians-killed-russian-attack-ukrainian-hypermarket-officials-2023-05-03/ At the very beginning of the war, Russians hit a shopping centre in Kyiv, and it later came out that the underground car park and/or storage facilities were used by the army in some capacity. Then there was an attack on a Krememenchuk shopping centre that was located close to a road machinery plant that kind of sort of maybe could have been used for military needs. Basically, the justification within the Russian MoD for those and later attacks on clearly civilian buildings is that if something can be used for military needs, it is a military target. The same exact justification was explicitly used when Russia tried to destroy Ukrainian energy infrastructure in addition to the angle of revenge for the Kerch bridge explosion. They choose to believe bad intel and/or their own faulty logic, and with that in mind, when choosing real or imagined military targets, they are likely to prioritise those with weaker air defence. In the interest of balance, there are also reports of (maybe not as frequent) attacks by Ukraine that hit shopping centres, markets, and other civilian objects in Donetsk and Luhansk regions. The latest one I remember happened in April.   for photos of dead bodieshttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-seven-civilians-killed-ukraine-shelling-attacks-agencies-2023-04-06/ My understanding is Ukraine, like Russia, would need to use high-value long-distance ammunition for strikes like that, which doesn't make sense for non-military targets even if there was malicious intent behind them, so bad intel probably also contributes to it on both sides.
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May 3, 2023 13:33
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KingColliwog posted:The fact that it's pretty much hitting the flag is quite ridiculous. Feels like a cartoonish taunt. It doesn't have to be a Ukrainian drone. There is very little for Russia to gain from a false flag attack. Remember, they prefer to explain away successful Ukrainian attacks with negligent smokers where it's even remotely plausible. The official narrative is that the war is needed so that the rest of Russia can stay safe and peaceful, and any attack deep into Russian territory goes against that narrative and shows that the war only makes everyone less safe.
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May 3, 2023 13:48
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fatherboxx posted:This was not an offshelf commercial drone refit into combat one, antiwar russians dont have such resources Has the drone model already been identified?
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May 3, 2023 14:01
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Hannibal Rex posted:https://twitter.com/sambendett/status/1653747610124009473?s=20 That's interesting. Back in February this year an UJ-22 was already near Moscow, and then another one was found in a forest a couple of weeks ago. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/28/russia-military-drone-attempted-strike-gas-facility-moscow-uav-ukraine https://en.defence-ua.com/events/on...pital-6500.html Highly improbable that Russia would orchestrate a false flag that elaborate, and the version that Ukraine is trying to pressure Russia to allocate more air defence to protect Moscow at the expense of occupied territories ahead of the counteroffensive is much likelier.
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May 3, 2023 14:27
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It was pointed out to me, that If you look closer, there are two figures scaling the dome from the left when the drone explodes.
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May 3, 2023 15:22
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1653772579901956096 Not always lately.
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May 3, 2023 17:34
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Willo567 posted:Could you elaborate a bit? They are a small org that previously used to have a very narrow focus on the prison system. Now that they've expanded to also covering the war, they simply aren't capable of vetting their sources as effectively. They are not quite on the Nexta/Unian level yet, but once in a while they now publish something very sensationalist from 'anonymous sources'.
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May 3, 2023 20:54
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EasilyConfused posted:Wouldn't it be more likely that this was an unsuccessful attempt to take out a high value target (presumably Putin) than a successful attack on a flag? If they managed to get two drones that close, surely they would have known that Putin isn't usually anywhere near that building at that hour. Whatever the intention was, it wasn't to kill Putin.
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May 3, 2023 21:01
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Paladinus posted:They are a small org that previously used to have a very narrow focus on the prison system. Now that they've expanded to also covering the war, they simply aren't capable of vetting their sources as effectively. They are not quite on the Nexta/Unian level yet, but once in a while they now publish something very sensationalist from 'anonymous sources'. Case in point. It was all literally just trolling by Russian white nationalists on twitch. https://t.me/ilyashepelin/5061
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May 4, 2023 11:34
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Disco Pope posted:What's this Sims thing? I see it come up, but I totally missed it. Last year, there was an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Solovyov, one of the loudest propaganda voices in Russia, who happens to be Jewish. The suspects were quickly detained, and a lot of nazi merchandise was found at their flat. For some reason, however, three CDs of Sims 3 were shown along with Nazi Germany flags and extremist literature. Some theorised that whoever orchestrated the photoshoot misunderstood the request and instead of getting some mobile SIM cards, brought three copies of Sims 3. Most likely not what happened, but it's extremely funny. 
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May 4, 2023 13:30
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fatherboxx posted:"False flag" is not an idiom in Russian or Ukrainian It is already. Kind of. There's even a new TV show on NTV called 'Фальшивый флаг' (False Flag). quote:The Turkish defence minister was kidnapped from a hotel on Cyprus during an unofficial visit. The Turkish security services publish photos of the suspects' passports, all of them Russians with dual citizenship. The men are said to be covert agents of the Russian secret services who have been plotting this special operation for several years.
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May 4, 2023 13:52
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