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Isentropy posted:Salut I'd have preferred if every promising young player not named Nick Suzuki didn't get injured this season.
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Ginette Reno posted:The Pens are a loser team I don't see em on the list. Get lost ya cup holders.
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https://twitter.com/nhlcoachesassoc/status/1643272841926770691?s=61&t=n1bskK9BkwkpKlLVM3W41A so this is neat E: Torts has been watching the last few games from the press box and has largely just let the assistants do bench coach duties while they call up the kids
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DJExile posted:https://twitter.com/nhlcoachesassoc/status/1643272841926770691?s=61&t=n1bskK9BkwkpKlLVM3W41A No one quits on a team quite like Torts
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Eric the Mauve posted:NHL Loser Thread 2023: No one quits on a team quite like Torts
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ThinkTank posted:What was the Blue Jackets plan this year? They signed Gaudreau and spent big in the summer yet ended up with a goal differential of -100. If it was to improve, Jarmo is doing a pretty terrible job of it. Probably not having pretty much every player on the team miss significant time would help.
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Zack Werenski is the only positive xG defenseman on their entire team. So I'd probably start at Gudbranson and uh go from there. Anyways I'm just going to peak the digs. Maybe grab a couch and put my feet up on the coffee table for a bit.
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Speaking of the Jackets I was at the game tonight and who, exactly, is Eric Robinson? I'd seen their AHL team play this year and there were still a half dozen names I didn't recognize.
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Hand Knit posted:Speaking of the Jackets I was at the game tonight and who, exactly, is Eric Robinson? I'd seen their AHL team play this year and there were still a half dozen names I didn't recognize. Amazingly enough he's a guy who's been around for years. He's an okay 3rd liner on the Jackets so would likely be a 4th liner anywhere else. He has the name of a hokey stand up comedian and not a pro athlete so he gets immediately deleted from your consciousness after you see him.
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Winning the division and a round in the playoffs last year felt weird... Back to being completely mediocre and missing the playoffs feels more familiar... Like a warm hug, this is where Flames fans belong. ..... Probably for the next 6 to 7 years.
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Misanthrope posted:Winning the division and a round in the playoffs last year felt weird... Back to being completely mediocre and missing the playoffs feels more familiar... Like a warm hug, this is where Flames fans belong. I am so very curious as to what the Flames are going to do in the offseason. They are almost locked into trying to make that roster work but goddamn its old and there just isn't a difference maker on it. League average goaltending would have at least got them to the playoffs to get smoked though. Are they run well enough to get a forward thinking GM and let him cook? Or are they gonna hire Chiarelli.
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Taking a very "I WANT TO BELIEVE" approach to Morgan Frost https://theathletic.com/4359413/2023/03/29/flyers-morgan-frost-john-tortorella/?access_token=65682 quote:Frost has seven points in his last five games. His 24 points over his last 36 games — since the start of 2023 — leads the Flyers. And it goes beyond points. Philadelphia controlled 74.44 percent of the expected goals at five-on-five on Tuesday with Frost on the ice; a team-high mark. And that wasn’t a one-game anomaly, either. During the month of March, Frost has posted a 59.44 percent xG share across 12 games, an undeniably stellar rate that trails only Tippett among Flyers forwards over that span. I definitely felt he was doing better just by passing the eye test, but it's cool to see the underlying metrics supporting that as well Also more lol Fletcher quote:One factor that could help him in that regard, however? He just might now have a big-time backer in charge of the Flyers’ front office.
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Hello darkness my old friend... Sabres have joined the loser party one day later than normal after securing a regulation loss to the Florida Panthers last night. We're on the right path, we're gonna be so good in 2-3 years.... I say for the 12th consecutive year. But it actually feels real this time. Borderline playoff team while icing the youngest roster, and also the oldest individual player, while $5million under the cap without the Bishop contract? Unbelievable amounts of potential. Now Kevyn Adams just needs to spend some of that league leading cap space to fill in the right veterans around his core and this team could do some real damage.
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Hand Knit posted:Speaking of the Jackets I was at the game tonight and who, exactly, is Eric Robinson? I'd seen their AHL team play this year and there were still a half dozen names I didn't recognize. he's a 4th liner who is really really fast but misses 100% of the breakaway attempts he generates from being really really fast. he's been a 4th line staple for a few years so that's probably why you didn't recognize him compared to the 10 ahl guys i've never heard of that played last night
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ThinkTank posted:Feels absolutely bizarre that the Capitals are out of the playoffs. Honestly this is preferable to another first round embarrassment. Washington generally doesn't make panic moves, but I have to imagine they will have a very active offseason. If they are true to what they said to Ovechkin that they won't rebuild until he is gone and will always try to make the playoffs while he is around, then I wouldn't be shocked to see them move their first round pick this year (unless they win the lottery of course). It wouldn't be the best long-term move to move the #8 or #9 pick but I have to imagine they are looking for a center this offseason and their first round pick could do the trick. Kuznetsov constantly disappoints and Backstrom's career as a top 6 player is pretty much over. I'd honestly be surprised if Kuznetsov is still on the team next year, I feel like the team has had enough of him. I could also see them trying to move on from a guy like Oshie if there is any market for him. He's been a great player in the past but the last few years he has piled up way too many injuries and I think Washington might be looking to get a bit younger. And I don't think they'll do it but I also wouldn't be shocked if they traded Wilson. Aside from their first round pick this year they don't really have any other assets of value besides Wilson, so if they really are looking to retool I could see them exploring that option. They'd certainly be better off trading him than re-signing him.
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th3t00t posted:Hello darkness my old friend... Was it you who toxxed themselves into the Sabres making the playoffs?
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Mike_V posted:Blues and Canucks competing to see who can poo poo their pants the most at loving their draft position, although it looks like Vancouver figured it out the past couple games Still plenty of time for them to rise out of the Bedard lottery
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th3t00t posted:Hello darkness my old friend... I feel like this about the Sens too. They made it competitive until the last few weeks of the season, and did so without their #1 centre for the entire year, and without their #1 goalie for long stretches of the season, including for the entirety of this current slump that wrecked their playoff hopes. They've got their core locked up for the next few years, that core only got better as the year went on, and there's no more obvious boat anchors on D like Zaitsev. Tkachuk and Stutzle both look like legitimate first liners, with Stutzle on pace for ~95 points and 40 goals, and Tkachuk over PPG. Next season's depth chart looks like this: quote:Tkachuk-Stutzle-Giroux I think that in any other division, that lineup is either in the playoffs or comfortably in the wild card race. I think that in the Atlantic (and the East in general), it'll genuinely be a tossup, because there's 4 legitimately good teams in Boston/Tampa/Toronto/Florida, and then another team (Buffalo) in the exact same spot as Ottawa, trying to break in.
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I said it before but I really am impressed with how thoughtfully the Capitals have managed the last few months. Sold at the deadline when it was clear that at best they were first round fodder. Re-signed free agents at decent rates that made sense and weren't going to return much at the deadline (Jensen and TVR). And now they are tanking like professionals. They apparently have the third worst record in the NHL since the beginning of 2023. Sucks that they had such a good month of December but hey, at least they are positioning themselves to be in the running for Bedard or Fantilli.
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bub spank posted:I feel like this about the Sens too. They made it competitive until the last few weeks of the season, and did so without their #1 centre for the entire year, and without their #1 goalie for long stretches of the season, including for the entirety of this current slump that wrecked their playoff hopes. They've got their core locked up for the next few years, that core only got better as the year went on, and there's no more obvious boat anchors on D like Zaitsev. Tkachuk and Stutzle both look like legitimate first liners, with Stutzle on pace for ~95 points and 40 goals, and Tkachuk over PPG. Next season's depth chart looks like this: I have a really bad feeling they’re gonna try flipping Brannstrom this summer, guy isn’t going to get pp time behind Chabot/Sandy/Chychrun and he legitimately deserves more icetime with the way he’s played this season. He’ll be cheap to keep on a 2-year deal, and everyone knows Chychrun is gonna miss his token 30+ games a year.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/danbickley/status/1643671834574086145 lmfao what are you going to do, yotes threaten to continue not paying your rent?
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ThinkTank posted:Was it you who toxxed themselves into the Sabres making the playoffs? Hi. They aren’t mathematically eliminated yet but they might as well be after last night’s loss.
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Everyone loves Marco Kasper, the shiny new prospect that https://twitter.com/DetroitRedWings/status/1643673228580200455
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https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1643706663894130695?s=20 It would be so NHL for the Coyotes to win the draft lottery
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One weird trick to make your NHL team profitable.
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1643706663894130695?s=20 I hope it fails and the vote on the arena fails and the entire organization craters spectacularly
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I hope they win and then sue Something Awful for constant slandering of the Arizona Coyotes.
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Soooooo I started this post earlier on my phone....and it started to get a little out of hand so here's the 2nd crack at it. This is going in the Loser's thread because 1. A huge reason the Penguins will end up here are because of this players play (amongst others) and 2. Another of these idiot teams might be on the one that gives this player a big contract. Boy I hope it isn't my team and yikes if it is yours. With that out of the way lets talk.....Tristan Jarry. Since the injury and subsequent return Tristan Jarry has been, well, bad. Not exceptionally bad like Spencer Martin or Cam Talbot, but in the next group of 'bad' goaltenders like Martin Jones and Jack Campbell. To quantify this a little bit at 5v5 from his return on January 20th Jarry has posted a .897 sv%, good for 50th of the 70 goalies (300 minutes minimum) and a -5.44 GSAA and -.43 GSAA per 60. On a per 60 basis he's 52nd of 70. Moving to all strength's and Jarry drops to .892 sv% with -5.39 GSAA and -.34 GSAA per 60. His efforts place him at 49th of 74. Whats more Jarry is facing 2.88 expected goals against per 60 in all situations (33rd of 74) and 2.45 xGA per 60 at 5v5 which is 16th best in the league. For comparison Carolina's goalies face the least xGA per 60 with 2.02 and 2.11. 'Well Rex haven't the Pens been giving up tons of goals and playing from behind a lot and well game state does funny things to goalies doesn't it?' you ask. That is a good question and that's where phone posting started this got out of hand. Lets dive in! At 5v5 with 150 minutes of ice time and the game tied Tristan Jarry drops in at 43rd of 59 goalies (against since January 20th return) posting a .902 and -.33 GSAA per 60. xGA per 60 is 20th in this data set. Looking at all strengths and things get even worse! When the game is tied in all situations Tristan Jarry is putting up a diabolical .884 sv% That places him in 52nd position of 63 goalies. His GSAA ranks in at 51st of 63 with -.66 GSAA/60. xGA over this period is 2.8 xGA/60 which ranks 32nd. Adjusting to 'within 1' game state and .895 (50th of 79) and -.23 GSAA/60 (49 of 79) while facing a NHL 15th placed 2.63 xGA/60 in all situations. At 5v5 Jarry's .911 places him in 42nd place of 76. GSAA of -.03 is the same ranking. His xGA/60 is a top 10 in the NHL (9th) of 2.3 xGA/60. What is impressive is that when the Pens are leading he is even worse. With any lead Jarry is posting a .898 sv% at 5v5 (38 of 54) and -.55 GSAA (39 of 54)....only 2.55 xGA (17 of 54). All strength sees a slight improvement to 35th of 59 and a questionable .901. GSAA drops in with -.16 and the same 35th place of 59 other goalies. When trailing it's the same story. Lower/middle of the pack. xGA against though is 15th and 16th of roughly 60 other goalies. When up 1...well I had to adjust the time. Since his return Jarry has only been 'up 1' for 116 minutes of ice time. That might be because he's posting an .879 sv% and -1.04 GSAA per 60 which places him in 38 of 44 at 5v5. All strengths somehow gets worse! .866 sv% good for 45 of 52. GSAA is -1.2 which is also 44th of 52. xGA all situation is 2.97 (18 of 52) and 2.35 xGA/60 at 5v5 (9th of 44). And now for something weird. Which if you've made it this far thank you and congrats. When down 1 goal Tristan Jarry is the 5th best goaltender at 5v5 with a .951 sv%. The 1.18 GSAA/60 is good for 6th best. Funnier still the xGA/60 is 4th best in the NHL. These same numbers repeat themselves at all strengths. .944 sv% and +1.27 GSAA/60 good for 5th and 7th out of 50 some odd goalies. The 2.05 xGA/60 ranks 6th. So what's the tl'dr Rex? Well it is that Tristan Jarry has been absolutely awful and bottom 3rd goaltender in the league since his return on January 20th. I've already looked at too much spreadsheets and forget what his early season stuff was, but I want to say up and down with mostly positive results. Unfortunately he either is still broken and playing through it/'the team' is pressuring and using modern medicine (toradol injections) to try and get some kind of performances. What is clear though is that since his return Jarry has been downright awful and while he has had some ups in his career I would not want to be the team that sinks years and medium to big dollars into him.
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