is pepsi ok posted:

It varies greatly by promotion and wrestler, but what you described is very much the WWE house style. They force most of their wrestlers to work that way.

flatluigi posted:

wwe, in particular, has almost a grudge against highlighting wrestling as part of their whole deal and frequently treats it as the least important thing on the show. it might be representative of what 'mainstream modern US wrestling' has been for the last decade or two, but there's a lot more to what's happening with modern wrestling around the world. even in the US there's been a renaissance with AEW, which is pretty much the first significant competitor WWE/F has had since WCW was a thing and showcases a variety of modern wrestling styles on the regular

if you want people to throw links at you at stuff to check out i'd head over to the general wrestling question thread for overall suggestions + the pinned AEW primer thread for stuff about that promotion specifically (or the current AEW discussion thread)

MJeff posted:

I'm not gonna do the cliche bit where I just instantly recommend AEW to you and instead first I'm going to ask 1) Who are some of your favorite wrestlers and matches? And 2) Do you even want some examples of that kind of stuff in modern wrestling or were you just curious?

forkboy84 posted:

Honestly, modern wrestling is all over the place (although it always has been. Go from watching JCP to the same week's WWF TV & instantly feel bad). WWE is very...WWE. The old rapist in charge is deeply embarrassed to be in the wrestling business, despite it having made him grotesquely wealthy, so that plays into a lot of it. It's very much not old school wrasslin', Vince McMahon loathes wrasslin'. AEW meanwhile is very much the opposite, Tony Khan is a wrestling nerd who used to post on the Death Valley Driver forums, which was/is a very nerdy place for talking about wrestling, he adores early '80s Mid South/UWF & ECW & Japanese stuff he'd watch on tapes & so on. So while it's very much a contemporary product, there's I think more elements that would feel familiar in the structure of the programming. Somewhat. Obviously it's 35+ years later & the industry is wildly different, in the '80s the house show business was where the money was & TV was about getting fans to go to the arenas, then gradually it became a PPV business & weekly TV through the '90s is about getting you to buy the PPVs, especially once they go monthly. And now all the money is in the TV rights themselves, so you get many more big matches on television than you would expect to see on TBS at 6:05pm in 1988.

And then the US indies are all their own thing, closer stylistically to AEW generally but usually rougher round the edges & often different because it's not made for TV so the format is different. And there's wrestling from other countries, often with their own feel & way of doing things like in Mexico & Japan.

If you want an actual grasp of the best of in-ring action from 2023, we've got the 2023's Best and Worst Pro-Wrestling Matches of the Year thread where people post their recommendations. Sometimes including links to view the match on Russian or Chinese social media sites because god bless their lack of interest in copyright law. I'd also add that every single episode of AEW TV is up on archive.org if that's something you want to try out at some point. Not the Pay Per Views, but they are up on VKontakte

I'll link directly to my own post from the start of July which has my top 10 matches of the year to date, all with timestamped links. It's all from Japan because that's what I watch at the moment but hey, it's a starting point

Vandar posted:

https://twitter.com/KXNGAO/status/1719181440363966749

Joey McChrist posted:

paul came back to manage authors of pain back in 2016/2017ish. they got called up to the main roster without him, he got let go, then AoT got let go during the pandemic. they got quietly rehired a while ago and ellering got brought back with them. they were a pet project of HHH's.

Lid posted:

Peacock owns that library til 2026 so if anything it fucks Netflix

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

this would be very funny becuase cody's goal and seemingly only desire to be in the WWE is to win the belt and keep it without being screwed with a dusty finish

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

word on the street is that everyone backstage is mad at the Rock for making long promos and swearing but they cant do anything about it because he's the Rock and he's on the board

Optimist with doubt posted:

I feel there is a non zero chance that Cody already has a burner here and Reddit

MassRafTer posted:

https://twitter.com/JHagholm1/status/1774879940652970288

Punk wants us to know how much he idolizes Vince, he's out there spouting his beliefs.

projecthalaxy posted:

https://twitter.com/seanrosssapp/status/1774867962995920933?s=46&t=YLj_CtUx2GT6lj8SkodQMQ

Punk decides to write down his opinion on people writing things down.

E: to not click through:

CM Punk says he saw Vince McMahon at Titan Towers once, and hasn't seen him since. "I think some stuff came up, Ariel," Punk joked to Helwani He said there was no positivity there. He didn't read all the allegations, he read the text messages and says it's indefensible. "I'm shocked at how dumb he was, writing stuff down, and leaving a paper trail. It's horrific. I think all the energy should be done to make reparations and amends -- there are victims here" Punk said.

Kennel posted:

I'm pretty sure commercials during matches have existed as long as I've been watching (since 2002). Of course, tv matches tend to be longer now than in the 90s, where most didn't have time for an ad break.

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I'm glad you enjoyed things! I don't recognize most of these names lmao

Endless Mike posted:

This is the WWE style of wrestling since matches are like five minutes but everyone has to get all their signatures in to pop the crowd (it doesn't work)

See above

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The modern ref's job is less refereeing and more giving signals that it's time to bring it home
Yeah. It used to be a huge deal, now it's just like a transition move lo

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IDK but Kevin Owens is one of the best wrestlers on the planet, so if anything you should be asking why he has to be teamed with that old idiot loser. (The answer, of course, is SLOM)

Because AEW made a big deal out of her then WWE hired her away as one of their big gets so they have to make a big deal out of her. She has a great look, but never really proved herself in the ring. (As it probably turns out, AEW was right to only ever have her in five minute matches or tags where she didn't do much.)

Totally normal for weekly TV, definitely not so much for PPVs (though it can happen there, too lmao)

Definitely for the crowd, I think they just turn the mat mic way the heck up though

I swear she'd gotten a lot of hype when she got signed, but she also kept getting injured, which isn't going to help anyone.

Sisal Two-Step posted:

hi guys. how was raw last night

forkboy84 posted:

There used to be weekly WWE threads but nobody watches WWE here except Foochs and EMF so they became redundant

So just use this thread

forkboy84 posted:

I wouldn't encourage piracy but every episode of AEW TV is on archive.org

I continue to not really understand why it hasn't had a copyright claim on it but long may it continue. Also Russian social media website VK has all the AEW TV & PPVs, plus far too many other things

Eat My Fuc posted:

I’m the only one on this forum who had Brandi and Cody actively do anything bad to in person so bad i started crying yet I am their only true supporter, open your hearts.

Also it was my fault anyway so I can’t be mad at them for telling me to gently caress off and yelling at me because I was standing next to them like an idiot whole they were having a private conversation, I just got stuck in an awkward situation and couldn’t move away in time because I got too anxious to operate my body.

Still not the worst Gunner broke my glasses at an indie, but Cedric Alexander made up for it and told me Gunner was a loser.

KungFu Grip posted:

exploding knee factory strikes again

https://twitter.com/SaquonOffWwe/status/1775601469644825006