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fresh_cheese
Jul 2, 2014

MY KPI IS HOW MANY VP NUTS I SUCK IN A FISCAL YEAR AND MY LAST THREE OFFICE CHAIRS COMMITTED SUICIDE

i get where youre coming from, but nah, not really

VMS is a lot more like a modern text mode fullscreen os in that it contains a file system , text editors, and the IP stack is kinda sorta integrated into the kernel.

os/360 -> MVS -> z/OS pre dates literally all modern concepts of what an os provides beyond task scheduling and memory management, and you can trace where the memory stuff was tacked on if you look at how the memory model really works.


i need to get on that hobbyist VMS tho its baller

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fresh_cheese
Jul 2, 2014

MY KPI IS HOW MANY VP NUTS I SUCK IN A FISCAL YEAR AND MY LAST THREE OFFICE CHAIRS COMMITTED SUICIDE

carry on then posted:

z/os uss is such a quirky thing, like they try to provide a unix environment where you can't tell the difference but as soon as you push on just about anything the batch-and-dataset underpinnings show up

having

code:
 cp file.txt “//‘some.new.dataset’” 

actually do the needful is effing magic

fresh_cheese
Jul 2, 2014

MY KPI IS HOW MANY VP NUTS I SUCK IN A FISCAL YEAR AND MY LAST THREE OFFICE CHAIRS COMMITTED SUICIDE

Sweevo posted:

there's a youtube video about a kid who bought a zSystem and had to deal with all that bullshit - no documentation, nobody wanting to tell him anything, hardware being in the machine but disabled by the software licence he had, and the un-skippable 30-minute splash screen every time you switched it on

thats not a splash screen thats how long it took the laptop to finish loading all the poo poo it runs. its still like that with current gen hardware because software always grows to fill hardware just like anywhere else.

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