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George Carlin posted:When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat. This is not going to be a happy thread. Recently in the UFC thread, there was a discussion on whether Dana's White Power Slap (or any Slap Fighting related poo poo) should be in the UFC threads. Beloved benign dictator and essay-writer CarlCX decided, no, this poo poo sucks, gently caress Power Slap: CarlCX posted:For the record it wasn't you or even anyone specific, there've been various complaints about this basically since the first news of Power Slap broke both in public and in private, and seeing the conversation come up for like the third or fourth time I figured it was past time we all talked about it and figured out what we were most collectively okay with. which I can understand and am fine with. And in fact, I think this sub-forum/forum/site is overdue for a "freakshow combat sports thread". Why? Well, two reasons: for one, one of the unique things about SA that I've appreciated in my (goddamn it's been a long time) twenty years of reading and posting here is that not only is it generally the best and most sane place to discuss sports and other stuff, there's been a relatively "content-neutral" approach in all the threads. Even if something sucks--and to be clear, Dana's White Power Slap sucks so much poo poo--it's been at least a cathartic place to join together and discuss how bad it sucks, and why. The other reason is that: it's truly only going to get worse from here. Our unending growth-at-all-costs culture/economic system is going to make this poo poo worse, more depressing, and way more common. Fight Circus. Bare Knuckle Fights. Streetbeefs. Kimbo Slice. Worldstar. Jake Paul. Floyd Mayweather fighting John Gotti III. One of my favorite all-time forums posts in the wake of the Great Recession (that I wish I could quote and credit exactly) was something along the lines of, referring to Tim Tebow, "Nothing helps me live in a 1930s economy like seeing a guy with 1930s morals run a 1930s football offense". If that was true in 2011--and it certainly was--than my measly attempt at updating it in the wake of inescapable legalized sports gambling and the Endeavor-WWE merger and ever-more-insane wealth disparity is: nothing gets me more pumped to live in a 1880s society than people fighting under 1880s rules for 1880s money. So as mentioned: why not keep track of the phenomenon? This thread is for all that poo poo. Sanctioned fights? Barely sanctioned fights? People trying to do sanctioned fights? Fixed fights? Stories of old fixed fights? I want to hear about it all. I will repeat: This is not going to be a happy thread. But I send a warm invitation for you to please join me in keeping track, for posterity, all the increasingly deranged ways in which we are beating the gently caress out of each other for money.  The State of the Freakshow /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24188729/Dana_White_Power_SLap.jpg) Disgusting Fight Org #1: Dana's White Power Slap If you are a regular tenant of this forum, you are probably familiar with the charismatic and disgusting bald rear end in a top hat skinhead wifebeater pictured above. An incredibly effective promoter who helped build the UFC into a multi-billion dollar enterprise. If you only know him from the last 5 years, you might be surprised to know that he actually had a lot of goodwill from most combat sports fans due to the incredible achievement of "not being Bob Arum or Don King". Ex-PSP mod Fatherdog (RIP to the principled king) had a saying about Dana White that was something like "it shows you how low the bar is and how hosed up combat sports are that Dana White and a couple of mafia-connected Italian heirs are the most straight up promoters in the business". He said it much better than me. But it really is a "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is not Don King" type of situation. Dana is reprehensible on many fronts, but at least he's not killing guys (Don King, allegedly. and actually), ripping fighters off, (generally) letting fighters fight until they're 45 and past punch-drunk, not directly tied to the Yakuza (Pride Fighting), not directly tied to Dutch organized crime (the entire sport of kickboxing), or any of the other insane sins of basically every combat sports promoter. What did he do with his estimated $400 million from the original UFC sale and a lifetime of fan goodwill from popularizing a now globally popular and regulated sport in a mostly above-the-board way? He worked with Endeavor to further gently caress over fighters, help elect Donald Trump, and now he's trying to market and build a sport where guys take turns hitting each other in the face while defenseless. Much like the UFC, he didn't invent slap fighting, but he is working to popularize and market it to a mass audience. He's like an roided out combat sports Steve Jobs, except he unfortunately believes in doctors. Much like his favorite president, he is a creature of social media and seems to base a lot of his decisions on what things he thinks are engaging there. When he saw slap fighting videos with many millions of views, he had to have it, much like he had to have noted little gremlin piece of poo poo animal abuser social media star Hasbullah. You can see this right in the production, which Dana is notoriously still micromanagery about. Here's an example on one recent broadcast:  It's a small thing, but the use of the word "interactions" is a grim marker of our current times. It's not "likes", reminiscent of a marginally more optimistic time. It's..."interactions". As in, regardless of how people feel about it, this is what's on the loving menu. You disgusting cretins sure like interacting with this, right? Even if you're all saying you hate it, you're so resigned and powerless that you'll just see whatever we throw at you. Check out any comment section of a Power Slap video and you'll see mostly comments like "It's actually horrible the damage they are doing to themselves over something so stupid" and "this isn't a sport" and "Wow human dignity at it's lowest. Even Animals will be highly disappointed" and my favorite "Do not protect yourself at all, follow my instructions". I haven't watched wrestling in years, but one of the last things I remember is the WWE piping in crowd noise and editing out boos on recorded content during the reigns of some of their more unpopular champions. If not in content, then at least in spirit (and steroids and sexual harassment[allegedly. and actually] and unionbusting and an inability to ever loving go away) Dana White and Vince McMahon should enjoy being part of the same corporate family. It's hard to point to an origin for slapfighting. The articles I can find about it's history suggest it began during Russian bodybuilding competitions. This article dates it to around 2019, but I know for a fact I saw it long before that. Here's a Dayton, OH Slap Contest from 2015. Here's a "Hot 97" SMACKFEST '05, suggesting the experience of previous SMACKFESTs Sure enough, here's SMACKFEST '04. Hot 97 would be fined $240,000 apparently for running SMACKFESTs in 2004 and 2005. Here's a Fox Sports Network commercial parodying a Russian Slap Fighting competition, potentially indicating some knowledge of it from 2005. If you look at those videos and think "drat, that's just people slapping the poo poo out of each other, I wonder how they sanctioned this and made it safer", come on lol. It's pretty much exactly that. As simply as possible, the rules are: Two guys match up. There's a coin toss or seeding to determine who hits first. You chalk your hand up, and then you have 30 seconds to slap the other guy as hard as you can with an open palm. You have to choose 1, 2, or 3 windups and strike on the number you said. You gotta slap them, you can't club their jaw. You can't step, your feet have to remain grounded. You have to follow the referee, and you can't use "abusive hate-based language". God forbid you call someone a slur while giving them permanent brain damage. The things we choose to care about. As a defender, you wear a mouth guard and cotton ear wicks, presumably to stop you communicating with the loved ones who are pleading with you to not do this. You can't grease or be too hydrated. A cutman can provide vaseline. You can have a beard. No head gear. You have to hold the "slap stick" behind your back, presumably to help you not flinch and keep your hands in the proper position. It can also be a "power slap towel", which is really bad for optics. Well, they're both bad for optics. Contestants seem to grab onto them like children getting hit as they try to recover from the brain damage they're experiencing. You can generally tell a guy's gonna be alright once he stops clutching their object like it's a safety blanket. If the guy stays neurologically at age 4, it's like falling face first in boxing: the contest is probably over. Also as a defender, you can't flinch, tuck your chin, raise your shoulders, or use any other method to block. No combat sport is complete without homoeroticism, so there are people designated "catchers" who stand behind the defender to try to keep his head from whiplashing on the ground. Then there's a 10-count if you're knocked down. If you make it, you have another 20 seconds (30 in total) to get back to the table and slap the poo poo out of the other guy. You can see a whole round here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X71dHixSmQ We have a guy clearly getting a concussion, a pair of guys gently helping him fall correctly so he can both give and get further and more severe concussions, then him deliver an even way worse concussion to the other guy, who gets knocked into the shadow realm and gets kneed in the head by former UFC fighter Forrest Griffin (himself a victim of many, many concussions) doing a reflex Jardine-sprawl. For literally having one job, the "catchers" in this sport seem hilariously inept, as seen on this aptly titled video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kes5dLn0BCU So that's Power Slap. Other thoughts + notable things about it: --It was on TBS, but it wasn't enough of a ratings hit to justify all the flack TBS parent company Warner Bros Discovery was getting from basically ever neurologist/medical person on the planet. It's second season now airs on Rumble, the right-wing video site that does the backend for Truth Social. --You can compete in a match as long as it's been 6 days since a 3-round match, 8 days since a 6-round match, or 10 days since a 7-round match. These seem really really bad for brain recovery. --Dana White was caught on video slapping his wife right before the debut. They postponed it a week, presumably to build up enough SEO so that Googling "dana white slap thing" didn't go only to that. --The former chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Stephen Cloobeck, who initially sanctioned it, is on record saying "I made a mistake. I'm not happy about it." with respect to officially sanctioning it. Oops! My closing note on this is that, again, this poo poo sucks, and This is not going to be a happy thread. I was struck by something said by Christapher Thomas, the inaugural welterweight Power Slap champion, on yesterday's Power Slap 1 broadcast, when asked about what he would like next: "I want 2-3 of these a year so it adds up. I don't want to work anymore, so...I'll take 2-3 slaps a year and pay my loving way. Let's do it." On one hand, part of the appeal of fighting in any sport is the catharsis that comes with willingly choosing the nature of your body's exploitation and commodification under capitalism. As counter-productive as it might practically be, there is a certain nobility and grim logic in standing at the yoke of exploitation and saying "209 bitch literally hit me in the face i don't care". That our owners and overlords have seen our desire to do this and seem determined to construct a society where we can do this to ourselves and each other in increasingly disturbed and horrible ways while also encouraging to bet on it is...well, it feels like I'm getting slapped in the face, defenseless, while the people who could protect me either let me slam my head into the ground due to their ineptness or knee me in the head because of their own trauma and brain damage. The ending of the AP news article captured well the spirit of this hideous league and it's place in our society: Mark Anderson for the AP posted:The commission recently approved amended rules to better define what constitutes a legal slap in an effort to minimize serious injuries. Is he talking about the next Power Slap event? Or America in one, two, or five years? Or just America right now? ------------------------------------------- Postscript: If you've made it this far, thanks for reading! As mentioned, I intend this thread to be both a discussion of the history of the darker side of fighting as well as a running RSS feed of its grim news we descend further into its new heart of darkness. If you know or feel particularly compelled to chip in, some things I would love to learn/discuss/read/see effort posts about are: Fight Circus X-ARM Bare Knuckle Fights Streetbeefs Kimbo Slice / DADA 5000 Worldstar fight videos Jake Paul / Celebrity Boxing ICE WARS The Ligue Nord-Américaine de Hockey and other minor-league hockey fights Floyd Mayweather "exhibitions" Fight fixing in PRIDE Trump's ill-fated Affliction MMA YAMMA Pit Fighting Hip Show: Arena Combat Ganryujima Moat Fights Epic Fighting Championship Modern Medieval MMA Jousting (modern and historical) Jousting (American Gladiators) Actual Medieval MMA/Tournaments Thai Prison Fights Tag Team MMA Bob Sapp and throwing fights Fight fixing in boxing Pancrase (probably been covered tons of times in this forum, but) Brawl for All Early MMA like Ali vs Inoki Stickfighting World Shockfights Chessboxing Actual 19th century freakshow fights Modern 3-fights-in-one-night tournaments Next up for me is a deep dive into TEAM FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS (the 5v5 MMA riot/brawl org in Eastern Europe), Polish Football Hooliganism, and whatever the gently caress a ustawka is.
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This links back to this thread. I want to see moat fights e: I don't want anyone to forget that Dana White hit his wife multiple times in public, on camera. Also the talk about Don King. At his worst he was paying his boxers 50% of revenue, the UFC pays about 17%, and Power Slap pays just 4-figures to each slapper. Fozzy The Bear fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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Fozzy The Bear posted:This links back to this thread. I want to see moat fights Thank you! I fixed it. Here it is: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3941694
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This is about as well done as this thread could possibly be, great job. I'll put it in the main thread rolodex starting next month so it stays linked.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-zTO0I10w Perfect timing from Napoleon
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Chad Mendes is fighting again in Bare Knuckle, so a free fight between him and someone called "Famez" popped up on my feed as promo for this Saturday. Famez turned out to be a 1-1 (at the time, now 2-3) former musician turned boxer. I know it's a different sport, but how he got matched up against a juiced up former MMA fighter with 23 pro fights is...concerning. He acquitted himself pretty well but of course got knocked down a few times and then knocked out. What I more felt was nostalgia for mid-2000s UFC, look at this lineup of sponsors: CheddaToken BetOnline.ag Seminole Hard Rock Casino TigerLyfe Energy Drink Mary Jane's House of Glass Onnit MVP Miami Odd Sox Crescent Tools scam gambling gambling health scam drugs health scam luxury rental cars socks tools (owned by noted legal scam artists Bain Capital) e: Pingiivi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-zTO0I10w oh hell yeah. definitely gonna sub and watch this, thank you! Fozzy The Bear posted:Also the talk about Don King. At his worst he was paying his boxers 50% of revenue, the UFC pays about 17%, and Power Slap pays just 4-figures to each slapper. I mean, one notable thing (in the most "you don't actually have to give it to him" kind of way) that Dana White has never done to an employee is stomp them to death. Maybe I need to read up on it more, but Don King's wiki suggests that he was stealing upwards of 80-90% of revenue that he promised fighters. If you or anyone else has it in them to do a Don King effort post, I'd love to read it. DO YALL WANT A BOXC fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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Mayweather just booked an exhibition against Gotti Iii
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CommonShore posted:Mayweather just booked an exhibition against Gotti Iii I have to admit he's got a really good business model, because I keep praying for someone to just land The One Punch We've All Been Waiting For. As he gets older and fights more bizarre people, the odds go marginally up that it will be someone like John Gotti III. in other scam and sponsorship news, I couldn't help but notice that the lead sponsor of White Power Slap is now Grant Cardone, alleged (and actual) scam artist sales trainer guy who promises to 10x everything in your life. You may have seen Grant doing a sitdown with Dana White recently, presumably as part of that sponsorship deal. What I found out recently is that he's also a Scientologist lol. Apparently fairly high up and close to David Miscavige, the leader of Scientology (and current fugitive from a federal human trafficking lawsuit).
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I heard, from someone and somewhere I don't remember, that bare knuckle fighting was actually safer than fights with gloves on, because hitting people in the head hurts your hands if you're not wearing gloves, and so bare knuckle will involve less head punches by necessity. Like, when people started wearing gloves is when deaths went up, even. That's got to be apocryphal, right?
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El Generico posted:I heard, from someone and somewhere I don't remember, that bare knuckle fighting was actually safer than fights with gloves on, because hitting people in the head hurts your hands if you're not wearing gloves, and so bare knuckle will involve less head punches by necessity. Like, when people started wearing gloves is when deaths went up, even. It's garbled interpretation of history. Some of those points are true. There is something to argument but my own read is that a lot of the avoidance of punching full force to the head was the lack of ability to repair broken hands. The guys who wrote the old boxing manuals did comment on hand health and the ability to punch full force, but that doesn't mean that they didn't swing at the head. They just picked their shots a bit more. Oh and they like elbowed people as well. Just watch 2023 bare knuckle guys and you'll see it's not true that you can't swing hard at the dome. But lots of people died in the bare knuckle era. It's why strikes to the back of the head, to the spine, and the kidneys are banned in Queensbury rules. Oh and someone died in BKFC like last year. Another dimension to this is that the Sport So-Called Science show measured Bas Rutten as hitting harder with a 16oz glove than he hit bare so the idea is that maybe gloves hit harder too. But one of the Muay Thai coaches who has sent a few guys to One has pointed out that the bigger factor is that a small gloved or no gloved hand can bypass a guard way easier too. So in that respect it's easier to hit someone clean without a big glove on because your hand is smaller and moves faster.
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I can do a writeup for modern celebrity (aka influencer) boxing.DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:You can see a whole round here: Even the video title is desperate for legitimacy. Uh yeah, all slap fight KOs are one-shot KOs. I'm pretty sad Griffin and Jason Herzog are up for this. Maybe the refs don't have a choice in their assignments? 
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Yeah, there's been some arguments that glove hit harder just from a mass perspective (adding 4/8/10oz gloves adds that much weight to your hands moving at roughly the same acceleration). But also there is something to the blow being cushioned behind tape + padding (unless you're using plaster of paris like Antonio Margarito or something) instead of bone. I remember reading arguments from neurologists when the UFC was getting legalized that it was much safer than boxing from a brain trauma standpoint because there's no standing 8 count, the smaller gloves knock people out more easily so there's less repeat "smaller" concussive trauma, and of course there are many ways to win the fight without hitting the other guy in the head as much. The argument against the standing 8/10 count in particular is a hideous invention that should be stopped immediately, since the second/third/fourth concussions that you suffer in a row are exponentially more damaging. Hence the MMA thing of "we'll stop the fight and not give the guy the time to recover when he's hosed up" is much better since (unless your ref is Yamasaki or Miragliotta) it protects you from further, worse damage. We've learned a lot about the brain and CTE since then, so I don't know if that's still regarded as true. But if it is, it makes the very generous 8-counts that Power Slap does even more grisly, since they're just effectively priming their brains for worse damage. The other thing when it comes to both boxing gloves and headgear that was theorized is that repeated "sub-concussive" events are potentially even worse than the one big knockout. So boxing gloves and headgear, if they do protect against the big knockout, could potentially be worse because they allow for just an unending series of sub-concussive blows. I believe this was one of the theories of why NFL linemen tend to get so much CTE despite not getting brutally tackled. They're just having these really brutal quick hard helmet clashes 60 times a game. As far as the argument of "forcing guys to use no gloves makes them protect their hands more"...it was truer probably in the early days of boxing than it is now, since a lot of those guys were fighting every week or a couple times a month or more. So they didn't really have time to recover from a broken hand. The modern bare knuckle guys don't fight nearly to that level, so a broken hand sucks, but it's recoverable in the course of a normal break after fighting. You definitely see that type of behavioral change in football with helmets, though, which is why they've tried to ban helmet-to-helmet hits. Once they switched from leather helmets and guys don't have to worry anymore, they just started using themselves as head-first missiles.
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Griffin with the on-point catch though. For all the poo poo he gets for being involved with DWPS, he cradled Vern Cathey with the quickness.
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kimbo305 posted:I can do a writeup for modern celebrity (aka influencer) boxing. Please! I'd also love to know more about the 90s poo poo too, the Manute Bole / Tanya Harding era. kimbo305 posted:I'm pretty sad Griffin and Jason Herzog are up for this. Maybe the refs don't have a choice in their assignments? Yeah, I think Jason Herzog is the best ref in MMA right now, so it does indeed suck. Charitably, I'm guessing he's doing it for two reasons: 1) This poo poo is gonna happen, so might as well try to make it as safe as possible. 2) Since the UFC still self-regulates in many places, he wants to be in the "good graces" list. The second reason there is one that I think about a lot...there's just such a conflict of interest in terms of the UFC still self-regulating in a lot of places. When they self-regulate, they pick and choose the refs and fly them over and presumably pay them more than they would otherwise get, and the refs get clout + notoriety from doing it. But from what I remember, they never for example took Mazzagatti because Dana White didn't like him, and I'm pretty sure they stopped taking Mario Yamasaki after a couple of egregious calls. I get that, because neither of those guys were great refs, but it seems really bad for the promoter to be the one rewarding or punishing refs based on their behavior. Seems like that would create many a perverse incentive. And I kinda wonder if Herzog thinks he needs to do this so he can keep reffing when they go to Abu Dhabi or something. AndyElusive posted:Griffin with the on-point catch though. For all the poo poo he gets for being involved with DWPS, he cradled Vern Cathey with the quickness. I love Forrest but he needs a lot of work at being a catcher, as does the other guy they have lol. They just let people slam their heads against the mat way too often for that being their only job.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:The argument against the standing 8/10 count in particular is a hideous invention that should be stopped immediately, since the second/third/fourth concussions that you suffer in a row are exponentially more damaging. Hence the MMA thing of "we'll stop the fight and not give the guy the time to recover when he's hosed up" is much better since (unless your ref is Yamasaki or Miragliotta) it protects you from further, worse damage. We've learned a lot about the brain and CTE since then, so I don't know if that's still regarded as true. So you're walking into each fight with much more accumulated damage. And while the specific concussions in a fight can also be very bad, there's the more nebulous effects of fighting with a weakened chin, getting worn down faster, and struggling to fight through being dazed. quote:As far as the argument of "forcing guys to use no gloves makes them protect their hands more"...it was truer probably in the early days of boxing than it is now, since a lot of those guys were fighting every week or a couple times a month or more. Yeah, the culture of the fight sport was different, which meant people prioritized things other than maximum punching force in each fight. You seem the same thing with traditional Muay Thai, where fighters only go hard in later rounds and don't spar nearly as much, just to minimize the already insane wear and tear on their bodies.
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kimbo305 posted:It's become increasingly apparent that the subconcussive hits you take in training have a huge impact on your overall CTE progression. I imagine a fight camp sees you sparring 20-50x the volume of rounds as the fight itself. I consider myself a pretty low level amateur fighter, and I was doing 6-10 rounds a week outside of camp, and I'd double that in the months leading up to a fight event. drat, jeeze. I mean, that helps explain why MMA/boxing seem to be the ultimate "it's not the age, it's the mileage" type sports. Do you know if there's been research/studies on CTE and the mileage of fighting affecting reflex time and decision making? It feels like it has to. BJ Penn was never regarded as the most diligent trainer, but he was effectively done as a competitive fighter at 33, but a guy like Ngannou was just hitting his peak at 33 after not doing it until late in life. I have to imagine some of that has to do with just the brain getting repeatedly injured and not just age. Gotta be the neurons and synapses just not operating as quickly anymore.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Do you know if there's been research/studies on CTE and the mileage of fighting affecting reflex time and decision making? Not sure if there’s studies specific to reflexes. Punch drunk speech is a result of imperfect control over the muscles, so clearly there’s systemic problems that would affect your athletic ability.
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ilmucche posted:Why don't they surround the slap platform with a foam pit i kinda wish they would sit elderly people right near the stage like Sumo. go all the way. But actually the nature of the platform is specifically called out in the rules: quote:Power Slap Stage and Power Slap Table This whole thing is bizarre with bizarre rules, but having a defined process for a guy falling off is maybe the most bizarre. Under my reading of the rules, if you slap a guy so hard he gets a Ring Out, you can win. But there are guys there who are paid by the promoter to stop people from getting a Ring Out. But if it happens and the guy slams his head against concrete or whatever, as long as he was slapped before that, it’s cool. Makes 0 sense. But neither does the rest of it.
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watched napoleon blownaparte's video about the slap stuff right before seeing that this thread was up. lots of good info and it's great to have a table of contents in here. thanks op. e: i meant great info in this thread. the video was just a coincidence mention Cavauro fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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ilmucche posted:Why don't they surround the slap platform with a foam pit I know one of the kick pad vendors is gonna offer a custom pad for the catchers to use to cradle the KOed slappees.
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kimbo305 posted:I know one of the kick pad vendors is gonna offer a custom pad for the catchers to use to cradle the KOed slappees. Bunch of people standing around with inner tubes ready to throw them under the slapee like gymnastics coaches
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I can't find it now but I enjoyed that promotional style guide they put out that specified that Power Slap Competitors must NEVER be referred to as "slappers"
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Tiny Bug Child posted:I can't find it now but I enjoyed that promotional style guide they put out that specified that Power Slap Competitors must NEVER be referred to as "slappers" It was offensive during the gilded Age and it's still offensive now
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Slappers only has 1 true designation and it sure aint this poo poo
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Chad Mendes is fighting again in Bare Knuckle, so a free fight between him and someone called "Famez" popped up on my feed as promo for this Saturday.
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Dana White saying Power Slap is number one in ALL sports combined during last nights UFC 288 post-fight presser despite what the public perception was (of which he didn't give any shits about) had to be one of the most cringe things I heard that night. And this was a card that had Henry Cejudo fighting on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VsMdwh5Y7c
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Ishin posted:Like, that has to be one of the more bullshit statements of all time right? Its 100% wrong on the very face of it. His metric is based on how it was streamed on social media compared to other sports. Even there I think thats utter nonsense, I think he is trying to argue 3.2 million views is higher than like 3.1 million watchers or some nonsense. He's just watching it disappear into a money pit, this is his very own Vince McMahon XFL.
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Dana moves on to his next extreme sport. Extreme pistol dueling.
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Lid posted:Its 100% wrong on the very face of it. His metric is based on how it was streamed on social media compared to other sports. Even there I think thats utter nonsense, I think he is trying to argue 3.2 million views is higher than like 3.1 million watchers or some nonsense. it's gotta be like "most posts on twitter during a ten minute timespan where no other sports were on TV". aka lying with extra steps. or he's just regular lying, which is his natural default setting.
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TheKingslayer posted:Dana moves on to his next extreme sport. Extreme pistol dueling. Flip a coin to find out who gets to shoot first
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Trillhouse posted:it's gotta be like "most posts on twitter during a ten minute timespan where no other sports were on TV". aka lying with extra steps. or he's just regular lying, which is his natural default setting. It's views, just views, of things like YouTube shorts.
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May 8, 2023 00:00
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Dana White's Power Dog Fighting.
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Dana White's Super Turbo Knife Game.
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"Do you wanna be a fuckin knifer?"
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I feel like the first handful of UFCs ought to pop up in here in some capacity. Sumo wrestlers versus savate fighters, the demolition of Joe Son's groin, ninjitsu, trapfighting, San Soo Kung Fu, guys lying on top of each other for 30 minutes, pitfighting, 'exotics,' and Jon Hess's playground-fu.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:I remember reading arguments from neurologists when the UFC was getting legalized that it was much safer than boxing from a brain trauma standpoint because there's no standing 8 count, the smaller gloves knock people out more easily so there's less repeat "smaller" concussive trauma, and of course there are many ways to win the fight without hitting the other guy in the head as much. This still holds up, and is why all the major sports (and even worked sports like wrestling) have concussion protocols now to prevent people from going back on the field with a concussion and getting a second, worse hit.
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I'm tempted to do Fight Circus, because I've watched almost all of them and have feelings on them. I don't know how detailed I can be though, but I'm going to try my best!
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