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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Appreciate the Late Night hosts stopping their shows in support. That's good poo poo right there.

I hope they get everything they're demanding. In fact, I hope they get more.

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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
https://twitter.com/realMeetKevin/status/1658955546391891968?s=20

Pretty sure Tesla didn't mean to piss off the actors guild right as their about to go on strike but boy this sure does help

That's a joke, Tesla only makes decisions that are worse for everyone

edit: slightly more relevant

https://twitter.com/Bitterstaff/status/1659338758779703296?s=20

This is loving bleak

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Oh man, this rocks

https://twitter.com/WGAWest/status/1660052942983168000?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/1661206309532848130?s=20

Feel like Martin Scorsese and Steven Speilberg aren't going to be too happy about this

And I'm sorry, the HBO Go=>HBO Max=>MAX it one of the stupidest bits of corporate micromanagement I've ever seen

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
HBO Go was a slam dunk and I feel line Zaslev should be dragged to court for corporate sabotage at this point.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

:commissar:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I genuinely hope Zaslev gets booed where ever he goes. For the rest of his life.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Justin Credible posted:

Worth noting as well this garbage show that's likely used for corporate financial fuckery is conveniently named the same as a big financial player that had shady rear end and likely illegal stuff going on with Bezos/Amazon. Some show about nebulous shady stuff and crimes and all that.Now what happens when you search for Citadel Amazon etc?

That's actually kind of genius. I don't like it, but it's genius

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Nnedi Okorafor, George RR Martin and Neil Gaiman out picketing

https://twitter.com/Nnedi/status/1662486696536207366?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Replace executives with AI

https://twitter.com/WGAEast/status/1663953108332838930?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
https://twitter.com/IATSE/status/1663993096340660224

oh baby, here we go. Reminder: SAG-AFTRA strike vote is June 7th

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Update on the Netflix executives compensation :allears:

https://twitter.com/WGAWest/status/1664404178326949889?s=20

https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1664405140319920129?s=20

Hit 'em where it hurts

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jun 2, 2023

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

It's habbening :woop: :woop:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Posted this in one of the animation threads but the Disney Animation guild is collecting signatures to try and get Disney to the negotiating table if anyone wants to throw their names in there. This seems to be for production staff

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/support-unionized-workers-at-disney20th-tv-animation

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Honestly, this is amazing to hear. Seconding the disappointment in the Director's Guild, but I think both the Actors and Writers striking at the same time could do some real damage

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Thanks, Joe Russo

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
lmao what a bunch of babies

https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/sag-aftra-federal-mediators-amptp-1235667053/

this is how you know the strike is going to really hurt them. :devil:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
beg for crumbs or starve

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Zaslev getting booed at that commencement was literally the nicest thing that could have happened to him . These people deserve worst things but I'll take getting booed whenever you show up in public

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
God. Sorry. This poo poo is so loving bleak. Deep down this is what all of our employers think

The best hope is this article invigorates every one and just brings them together.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I desperately want VFX to unionize :sigh: you guys get kicked around so bad it's depressing. You guys are so talented and deserve so much better for carrying the industry on you backs for the past 15+ years

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

This is the energy people need. Bite their loving dicks off.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Good. gently caress the magazines simping for the execs. It's not surprising but still lovely

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jul 16, 2023

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Yeah, they really don't want to reveal streaming numbers and I think that's incredibly telling

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

UltraShame posted:

It's really rad that when repeatedly sued for non-payment (and losing), the studios have the God-given ability to say to a judge: "oh no thank you, we would rather not disclose how we do the 'math' that lets us claim that we lost a quarter billion dollars on something that cost us a tenth of that.

Yep, that's some fine self-regulation.

Dollars to donuts the whole thing is going to be basically Pivot To Video part deux. There is no way these numbers aren't partially (or fully) cooked with how tight-lipped they're being about it

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jul 16, 2023

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
"We have no way to measure success but also Squid Game is our most successful, most watched show of all time and we know that because"

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Tree Reformat posted:

If streaming is a bad deal for the people who create the shows (it is), then the only sustainable path is killing streaming as financially viable and morally acceptable.

https://twitter.com/pajiba/status/1681019957432418304?s=20

quote:

"Either the studios owe untold millions to their talents and paying it out will decimate their stock prices, or they owe so little because there really is no money in streaming and the bubble of their entire 21st century business model will burst in spectacular fashion."

I think we're about to find out which.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Pinterest Mom posted:

I'm quite fond of being able to watch a television program at a time that's different from when it airs.

Honestly, I was pretty happy with stuff like Comcast On Demand. Usually newest episodes were up within a couple of days and Funimation had it's own channel and showed a bunch of anime that wasn't on regular tv. That rocked.


Nichael posted:

It's really weird that the term "FAST" caught on as if it's a new concept.
I feel like, best case scenario, is that we're all going to just go back to cable.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Absolute loving ghouls

https://twitter.com/ChrisStephensMD/status/1681005154609545216?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Mister Speaker posted:

OK, I think it's time to seriously consider the Perlman approach.

You genuinely can't negotiate with their positions. You can't. Perlman's got the right idea

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I'm always up for saying gently caress Hulk Hogan and now I have another reason to do so.

Anyway, something that's relevant to my interests.

https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1681711775350226944?s=20


And more good news!

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1681814371498958849?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
All current A24 productions are strike complaint. Remember, Disney and MAX can't comply with Union demands because it's too expensive

A24, a studio that only produces niche indie films: :shrug:

https://www.polygon.com/23800547/sag-actors-strike-the-chosen-a24-approved-filming

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, if you told me it was political I'd nod and shrug. And if it inspires other actors with millions to burn then hey, go with God.

I hope it's this. All the multi-millionaire actors should have a Who Can Be The Most Generous contest and just one-up each other by donating to the SAG and WGA strike funds

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
More millionaires need to bolster the strike fund because the Teamsters' massive strike fund probably helped with their work stoppage threat and they just won the UPS fight

Also, more of this energy please

https://twitter.com/Todd_Spence/status/1683945168498749445?s=20

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Social media is definitely helping, too. People involved with/are knowledgeable about the strike are able to talk directly and honestly to sometimes millions of people at once. We had the internet in 2008 but it was so different and more centralized now than how it was back then. People aren't on several different weird off-shoot social media sites and message boards, they're all on the same 5 or 6 sites: Twitter, Youtube, TikTok, Reddit and Facebook.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I'd really like to read that book sometime, I've always known people hated Eisner but never knew the whole story, just bits and pieces from over the years.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Aragosta posted:

Looks like The Rock got the ball rolling and now others have jumped in. Over $15 million so far.

Anyone know if this helps the WGA too? Or maybe separate donations to that union?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/business/media/clooney-streep-actors-strike-donations.html

Edit: paywall bypass https://archive.li/gpOEX

I uh, really hope these people are also donating to the Writers, too. I'm super happy to hear this for SAG but I also hope the same love is shown to the WGA fund as well. Last I heard they were hurting for donations

C'mon Stephen King, we know you can personally bankroll this strike for years.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Argyle posted:

The general public is also very aware of the ever-changing and increasingly lovely streaming landscape, and how the streaming business model is affecting their viewing habits. Older network shows move from platform to platform, Netflix notoriously cancels their own shows no matter how passionate the fans are.

I mean, 1899 was Netflix’s #2 most watched show for 3 consecutive weeks when it debuted, and then they cancelled it 2 months later. It’s insane. If people watching a show doesn’t make it successful, then what the gently caress defines success anymore? And why would a viewer invest any time into a show if even the most popular shows are at risk for cancellation at any time, just because they don’t hit some arbitrary metric set by an algorithm?

Viewers are definitely frustrated at the business, and I’m seeing lots of public support for the writers from average people (aside from the chuds who think everyone who works in TV is automatically a zillionaire).

The fans of that show, Shadow and Bone are so desperate for this show not to get cancelled that fans will just play the show continuously in the background during the day so that the metrics don't drop. It's insane but what else are people supposed to do? It's not like Netflix has ever made it clear what it is that makes show successful and certainly aren't willing to let shows find their footing before shitcanning it. How do you invest money in to a product and not even give people the chance to find it?

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Teek posted:

From what I understand for why high viewership new shows still get cancelled, it’s usually because watchers don’t actually finish the shows. Meaning those viewers watch the first few episodes and then bail for whatever reason. So that means they can’t be counted on to be there for a season 2. So while show X may have amazing numbers, not enough are even bothering to watch through to the end.

Then why brag about viewership numbers in the first place if it doesn't matter? :confused:

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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I'm still really soured on Bojack's final season getting cut short. Its ending was good but you could tell they had to work around not getting an actual final 7th season, but instead some weird, longer 6th season that was split in to two parts.

Honestly, I'm kind of shocked Bojack lasted as long as it did. Seems like a show that would have been cancelled too soon

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