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NBA Draft Lottery results 2023 Pick Team 1. Spurs 2. Hornets 3. Trail Blazers 4. Rockets 5. Pistons 6. Magic 7. Pacers 8. Wizards 9. Jazz 10. Mavericks 11. Magic* 12. Thunder 13. Raptors 14. Pelicans 15. Atlanta 16. Utah (from Minnesota) 17. Los Angeles Lakers 18. Miami 19. Golden State 20. Houston (from LA Clippers) 21. Brooklyn (from Phoenix) 22. Brooklyn 23. Portland (from New York) 24. Sacramento 25. Memphis 26. Indiana (from Cleveland) 27. Charlotte (from Denver via New York and Oklahoma City) 28. Utah (from Philadelphia via Brooklyn) 29. Indiana (from Boston) 30. LA Clippers (from Milwaukee via Houston) Note: The draft order above assumes that a team with the right to swap one pick for another exercises such right only if it is favorable to do so. Second Round: Picks 31-58 31. Detroit 32. Indiana (from Houston) 33. San Antonio 34. Charlotte (from Charlotte via Philadelphia and Atlanta) 35. Boston (from Portland via Atlanta, LA Clippers, Detroit, and Cleveland) 36. Orlando 37. Oklahoma City (from Washington via New Orleans) 38. Sacramento (from Indiana) 39. Charlotte (from Utah via New York) 40. Denver (from Dallas via Oklahoma City) 41. Charlotte (from Oklahoma City via New York and Boston) 42. Washington (from Chicago via Los Angeles Lakers and Washington) 43. Portland (from Atlanta) 44. San Antonio (from Toronto) 45. Memphis (from Minnesota) 46. Atlanta (from New Orleans) 47. Los Angeles Lakers 48. LA Clippers 49. Cleveland (from Golden State via Utah and New Orleans) 50. Oklahoma City (from Miami via Boston, Memphis, and Dallas) 51. Brooklyn 52. Phoenix 53. Minnesota (from New York via Charlotte) 54. Sacramento 55. Indiana (from Cleveland via Milwaukee and Detroit) 56. Memphis — Chicago (from Denver via Cleveland; forfeited by Chicago) — Philadelphia (forfeited) 57. Washington (from Boston via Charlotte) 58. Milwaukee Welcome. Your team got screwed by a rigged draft or rewarded justly for a hard season. This is where we chat about prospects, post draft articles, and ask questions about guys we heard about on podcasts. Please don't be afraid to ask a dumb question, prospect scouting for free is the province of the insane, and we like to talk about it Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 06:04 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 05:52
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Whatever happened to the 2023 FRP from ATL in the Dejounte trade? Does that mean the Spurs get the 27th pick?
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May 17, 2023 05:58
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anakha posted:Whatever happened to the 2023 FRP from ATL in the Dejounte trade? Does that mean the Spurs get the 27th pick? charlotte's first that ATL traded didn't convey this year because it didn't meet the protections as far as I can tell
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May 17, 2023 06:06
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I really hope the Lakers use their picks and don't try to flip them for a veteran guard.
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May 17, 2023 07:57
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Give us our lonzo tampering pick back, he's dead.
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May 17, 2023 12:52
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After sleeping on it I genuinely don’t know what the Hornets should do. The upside / non-accessory to murder choice in Scoot feels like the right call with a pick that high, but the appeal of just taking Miller and having PG / wing / C locked down for the next 5+ years is pretty real. The mock drafts seem split, even among the plugged in guys. I hate that Charlotte is actually going to have to make a high-stakes decision, I’d be more optimistic about the pick panning out if they were choosing the leftover at third.
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May 17, 2023 13:19
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What do the Blazers do at 3? I feel like they need someone good and tough in the post.
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May 17, 2023 13:26
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morestuff posted:After sleeping on it I genuinely don’t know what the Hornets should do. The upside / non-accessory to murder choice in Scoot feels like the right call with a pick that high, but the appeal of just taking Miller and having PG / wing / C locked down for the next 5+ years is pretty real. Charlotte lost a player last year to being a fuckboy. They definitely should go Scoot, then try to flip Terry for some role players.
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May 17, 2023 13:44
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TV Zombie posted:What do the Blazers do at 3? I feel like they need someone good and tough in the post. They draft whoever Charlotte doesn’t because there is a clear drop off after 3, I think
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May 17, 2023 13:50
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Slowpoke! posted:They draft whoever Charlotte doesn’t because there is a clear drop off after 3, I think Probably Brandon Miller. He's a Forward who can play next to Sharpe and possibly Lillard if Dame doesn't get traded They'd be a good spot for Scoot too, especially if they do end up trading Lillard
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May 17, 2023 14:15
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TV Zombie posted:What do the Blazers do at 3? I feel like they need someone good and tough in the post. Probably try to package the pick with Simons or something to get a (perceived) difference maker
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May 17, 2023 14:27
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morestuff posted:After sleeping on it I genuinely don’t know what the Hornets should do. The upside / non-accessory to murder choice in Scoot feels like the right call with a pick that high, but the appeal of just taking Miller and having PG / wing / C locked down for the next 5+ years is pretty real. Scoot's ability to penetrate and scoring PG tendencies could actually work with LaMelo's shooting and more pass-happy approach. LaMelo has the size to guard SGs as well. Also, keep in mind, LaMelo doesn't exactly have a clean injury history. Scoot can provide some security there and maybe prevent a similar freefall as what happened last season should LaMelo go down.
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May 17, 2023 14:58
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Melo can guard SGs in theory but that'd still be a pretty dogshit defensive backcourt. The offense would almost definitely make up for it but it's not the cleanest fit, and they'd still have to plug a gaping hole at the wing at some point Catching up on draft coverage now and the Miller / Scoot split is very weird, there seems to be at least some consensus that they're close but the Scoot riders are VERY adamant he's in a separate tier entirely
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May 17, 2023 15:12
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I don't know who the Pels should be looking at and I'm not sure I particularly care this season. Their needs are switchable center that can rebound and has at least one reliable way of putting the ball in the basket and a traditional pg with size that can rebound, defend two positions and make spot up shots.
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May 17, 2023 15:18
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Scott did not maybe help kill someone, so that's a big plus right there
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May 17, 2023 15:31
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The Bulls currently have 0 picks. Their 1st round pick last year played 0 meaningful minutes last year. They have to re-sign vooch be ause they are over the cap and cannot replace him if he leaves. They used their mid-level on Andre Drummond. Lonzo Ball has no knees. This team is utterly hosed!
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May 17, 2023 15:35
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Cason Wallace, Jordan Hawkins, Nick Smith Jr all fall into the raptors range and all would be great picks if they pan out. Feel like Pistons should take Taylor Hendricks as he would be a great fit, just unfortunate how they got screwed.
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May 17, 2023 15:59
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R.D. Mangles posted:The Bulls currently have 0 picks. Their 1st round pick last year played 0 meaningful minutes last year. They have to re-sign vooch be ause they are over the cap and cannot replace him if he leaves. They used their mid-level on Andre Drummond. Lonzo Ball has no knees. This team is utterly hosed! have they heard of “the process” ?
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May 17, 2023 17:21
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fart simpson posted:have they heard of “the process” ? have you heard of "temecula"??????????
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May 17, 2023 17:45
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Other than Wembanyama and Scoot, how is this draft supposed to stack up?
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May 17, 2023 17:49
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Hand Knit posted:Other than Wembanyama and Scoot, how is this draft supposed to stack up? Brandon Miller might be better than Scoot but also might have helped murder some guy. But he's a 6'9" wing and that's important in the NBA. Then Amen Thompson is a Big Guard that would be cool to get and everyone loves Big Guards in the draft, especially a guy as athletic as Amen. Then it kinda drops off to a lot of upside guys who might be awful.
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May 17, 2023 17:54
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Man, I cant wait to see Wemby doing crazy poo poo in Summer League
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May 17, 2023 17:55
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Hand Knit posted:Other than Wembanyama and Scoot, how is this draft supposed to stack up? Well superstar point guard Boo Buie is returning to northwestern for his 4th senior year, so in my opinion no one else is worth drafting.
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May 17, 2023 17:55
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Is there any chance Leonard Miller falls to 17? He seems like one of those guys who is gonna consistently rise up the board and be a late lottery pick, but I guess I can hope for him to drop to the Lakers
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May 17, 2023 18:02
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The Hornets will overthink it and pick the worst option like they always do. Kupchak saying he has freedom to take position of need over talent on a team as lovely as Charlotte is mind boggling.
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May 17, 2023 18:03
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three posted:The Hornets will overthink it and pick the worst option like they always do. Kupchak saying he has freedom to take position of need over talent on a team as lovely as Charlotte is mind boggling. I'm sure that'll be the case but their opportunity to gently caress up is pretty small unless you think Scoot is light years ahead of Miller as a prospect
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May 17, 2023 18:24
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morestuff posted:After sleeping on it I genuinely don’t know what the Hornets should do. The upside / non-accessory to murder choice in Scoot feels like the right call with a pick that high, but the appeal of just taking Miller and having PG / wing / C locked down for the next 5+ years is pretty real. I really wouldn’t mind Charlotte doing a Luca/Jalen Brunson thing with scooter and ball. Ball has the size to play off guard when necessary. Scoot is just way more talented than Brandon Miller as enticing as Brandon Miller is he does have some real flaws that could be exploited in the NBA
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May 17, 2023 19:03
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The Glumslinger posted:Is there any chance Leonard Miller falls to 17? He seems like one of those guys who is gonna consistently rise up the board and be a late lottery pick, but I guess I can hope for him to drop to the Lakers As exciting as he and as athletic as he just tested at the combine he’s still pretty unproven so it’s possible yeah. I don’t know if it’s probable but it’s definitely possible
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May 17, 2023 19:04
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Remember this. A lot of people say scoot is one of the best guards they’ve ever seen. Miller is a nice 2 way 3/4. The upside of one is much higher than the other.
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May 17, 2023 19:14
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The real sad part of this draft is that the world won't get to see Bryce Young standing next to Wemby. The hilarity of that photo would be amazing.
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May 17, 2023 20:02
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Dejan Bimble posted:Remember this. A lot of people say scoot is one of the best guards they’ve ever seen. Miller is a nice 2 way 3/4. The upside of one is much higher than the other. I agree with you because I value playmaking so much in the draft, but a 6'9 2 way player with range is like the single most valuable guy in the NBA right now. If you're a GM and you draft the next Tatum you just became a GM golden god. I'd probably want Scoot as a fan, but I might take Miller if I was a GM.
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May 17, 2023 20:28
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When does Wemby + Bronny + LeBron conspiracy get started?
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May 17, 2023 20:40
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Gradey Dick belongs in Salt Lake. Just look at him. Elder Dick jerseys will sell out in five minutes
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May 17, 2023 20:52
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I have no idea what the Rockets should do in this draft, other than trade their pick, either as part of a package for somebody that will actually help the team or see if they have anyone the Hornets or Blazers would want for a pick swap. Most mocks have them taking Amen Thompson, and I shudder at thought of adding another hyper-athlete that can't shoot.
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May 17, 2023 21:15
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Blind Pineapple posted:I have no idea what the Rockets should do in this draft, other than trade their pick, either as part of a package for somebody that will actually help the team or see if they have anyone the Hornets or Blazers would want for a pick swap. The solution it trade some of their extra picks so they can get both Thompson twins.
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May 17, 2023 21:22
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Which Thompson is the good one
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May 17, 2023 21:26
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Dejan Bimble posted:Remember this. A lot of people say scoot is one of the best guards they’ve ever seen. Miller is a nice 2 way 3/4. The upside of one is much higher than the other. Yeah I don't think it's much of a choice, I'm surprised anyone is saying Miller at 2 but a lot of people are. Yes there's a possibility Scoot flames out and Miller is a more solid NBA pro but you don't draft for solid players with picks that high, you draft to find a star.
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May 17, 2023 22:13
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For the Tatum comp, I know it wasn't really a comp, but the knocks on Mr Tatum coming out of Kentucky were that despite being an absolute iso scoring God, he didn't play defense, he didn't really have a handle, and he wasn't much of a passer For Brandon it's great 3p shooting, good defense, middling athlete, kind of scrawny, not super flexible, not a great finisher So Tatum's elite skill was iso scoring. Miller's elite skill is 3p shooting with a side of strong defense. Being an elite iso scorer usually means more upside than being a strong jumpshooter and closeout attacker. Like miller's median outcome is probably Tobias Harris as a good defender, with everyone wishing he'd become Paul George, who's a much much better athlete and 6'11
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May 17, 2023 22:37
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The Glumslinger posted:Man, I cant wait to see Wemby doing crazy poo poo in Summer League After Chet went down last year! They gonna put him in a cryogenic chamber until the season starts, then unleash him like the terminator. I might have my movies mixed up.
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May 17, 2023 22:41
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Calidus posted:The solution it trade some of their extra picks so they can get both Thompson twins. 
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May 17, 2023 22:46
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