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Dejan Bimble posted:For the Tatum comp, I know it wasn't really a comp, but the knocks on Mr Tatum coming out of Kentucky were that despite being an absolute iso scoring God, he didn't play defense, he didn't really have a handle, and he wasn't much of a passer I just head Givony call Brandon Miller “a No. 1 option from day one” so I guess some league folks are slightly more bullish
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I think Miller has more than middling athleticism, and I think he can score a bunch of different ways. I can see the allure, but I don't think at all he is a high floor guy. He is the exact prototype every team in the league wants. Again, I'd put Scoot over him but I don't think he'd be a bad #2 and as a GM I feel like he's the guy you want to go off and the guy you don't want to pass on if he becomes a star. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Which Thompson is the good one Amen Brother.
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Dejan Bimble posted:For the Tatum comp, I know it wasn't really a comp, but the knocks on Mr Tatum coming out of Kentucky were that despite being an absolute iso scoring God, he didn't play defense, he didn't really have a handle, and he wasn't much of a passer Paul George is not 6’11” and another big knock on Tatum was that he was a surprisingly mediocre long range shooter. 34% on 4 a game morestuff posted:After sleeping on it I genuinely don’t know what the Hornets should do. The upside / non-accessory to murder choice in Scoot feels like the right call with a pick that high, but the appeal of just taking Miller and having PG / wing / C locked down for the next 5+ years is pretty real. Do you think they’re going to bring back Bridges? That would presumably change their calculus
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Calidus posted:The solution it trade some of their extra picks so they can get both Thompson twins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXuIABMlZKc it's a shame that this is ancient history to key demographics because it should always preface discussions of them as a pair
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DeimosRising posted:Do you think they’re going to bring back Bridges? That would presumably change their calculus Bridges’ game turned around when he finally got to spend the majority of his minutes at power forward, so whether he’s back or not won’t factor into the draft. I honestly don’t know what they’re going to do with him but if I had to guess getting the No. 2 probably makes it less likely
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 Doubt that's enough for Detroit but I'd love for Charlotte to comfortably take Scoot then settle for whoever's left of Ausar / Whitmore / Jarace
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Really like Jordan Hawkins. His shooting form is perfect and underrated hops. Hope he falls to the Raptors.
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Givony: Brandon Miller not leaving a great impression in pre-draft interviews Source: Houston and Detroit front offices 🥸
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Who’s a good player the Mavs could get at 10 and then trade for a journeyman wing who sucks?
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morestuff posted:I just head Givony call Brandon Miller “a No. 1 option from day one” so I guess some league folks are slightly more bullish That part depends on if the playmaking and attacking close outs are real or just flashes. The playmaking making may a mirage to be honest with you but his handle is more of a 50-50 thing because some teams were able to completely stop him from moving with the ball and other teams weren’t Plus let’s be fair, the job of draft guys is the hype these guys up, even if they actually believe it, we know that the most common outcome for guys drafted 2/3/4 is starter not star Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 22:38 on May 18, 2023 |
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morestuff posted:I just head Givony call Brandon Miller “a No. 1 option from day one” so I guess some league folks are slightly more bullish lol https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1659292007213199372
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I imagine giving a mealy mouthed answer about maybe helped killed someone is a bad look
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Givony will never back off his takes formed during guy's high school play. He's reliable because he does do great at letting you know what teams are thinking but himself as a draft analyst is not good.
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I really miss old draftexpress videos, they were great at finding representative clips and explaining pros and cons visually, which is why they both made it to the big time. Now we have several imitators but none as good. Access to synergy would make it easy, but you need to know your poo poo
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Rick posted:Givony will never back off his takes formed during guy's high school play. He's reliable because he does do great at letting you know what teams are thinking but himself as a draft analyst is not good. It’s very telling that Schmitz is the Blazers assistant GM and givony is just writing articles
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Dejan Bimble posted:For the Tatum comp, I know it wasn't really a comp, but the knocks on Mr Tatum coming out of Kentucky were that despite being an absolute iso scoring God, he didn't play defense, he didn't really have a handle, and he wasn't much of a passer
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to be fair to brandon miller, not that anyone should be, his big concern is likely not implicating himself in a criminal conspiracy as opposed to giving sterling interview answers to the 15th most powerful person on the blazers or whatever but also, if you're drafting him, you've likely accepted that his off-the-court stuff is hosed forever and ever; if he doesn't seem knowledgeable or coachable, that's another nail in the coffin
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This might be me drawing conclusions, but Ja's gun poo poo (which is much tamer than Miller's gun poo poo) could cause Miller to drop. I think NBA FOs are going to be very concerned about Miller and it could cause him to dip from a top3 to a mid lotto pick
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Yeah, if I had to pick a candidate for 'person who spends the longest in the green room before getting drafted' before the draft combine results get out, I'd pick Miller. Now to see if we get crazy poo poo from the combine like 'a player's left leg is 8mm longer than his right'.
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There's no way Miller gets past the Rockets. Owner is a loud and proud Trump supporter and they just hired a sex-pest coach. Character issues are not a factor for them. If he can actually play the 3 in the NBA, that would be a total steal for Houston, which is fittingly unethical.
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Blind Pineapple posted:There's no way Miller gets past the Rockets. Owner is a loud and proud Trump supporter and they just hired a sex-pest coach. Character issues are not a factor for them. I mean I guess but I don't actually think the things correlate. This isn't about personal issues, this is about basketball execs watching Ja's last 6-7 months and extrapolating what that risk means in terms of games. Miller is a gigantic risk who happens to be the NBA's favorite size/skill combo in the current era. I also think if he's drafted by Houston this is their 5: Green/KPJ/Miller/Smith/Sengûn That team isn't defending anyone
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Well, that's partly because Green and KPJ are so bad that no defense has a chance. Smith showed flashes of defensive skill and Sengun is potentially hideable. Miiller at least has the tools to be a good NBA defender and it looks like he has the desire in college.
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i don't think kpj makes it past his next contract on the rockets; the putrid defense is fine for them right now because they're tanking and trying to see what they can make work but i don't think kpj-green is a backcourt that's going to make the play-in, much less compete in any serious way the offense looks bad enough that i'd be worried about anyone's future development on that squad; they're at the bottom of the league in assists and it shows
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Amen Thompson seems like an ideal fit for the Rockets they need someone who can pass and super athletic enough to defend. Harden can also try to teach him how to shoot.
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Ime's not a great person, but he is a great coach. I think there's a decent chance he can get the rockets playing a lot better defense next year.
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As a Portland fan I spent most of yesterday reading about Millers situation. I ain't going to hold it against him, and not because he is good at basketball but because he was barely involved. It's been hard to parse through so many articles but here is my timeline: He drove out to drink with Miles, Miles left his gun in Millers car. Millers attorney said at this point he was unaware there was one (maybe bs). Miles and Miller get separated for a few hours. Miles meets up the shooter and started a confrontation with the victim and her boyfriend. Miles texts Miller to bring his gun. Supposedly this is where he realizes it's in his car and hears of it the first time. Again, maybe bs. Miller obliges but doesn't know about the confrontation(texts seem to corroborate). Miller doesn't give Miles the gun, but Miles goes through the car and gets it. Miller doesn't follow Miles. Miles hands gun to shooter, they exchange words more, shooter kills victim. Miller runs, but after guns stop he is first back on scene. Cooperates with police, shows them his dash cam footage which seems to corroborate his story (and pin the blame on Miles/Shooter). I think the gray areas are he's a dumb gently caress but it is really hard to show any malice there. Ghetto SuperCzar fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 20, 2023 |
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Miller definitely was involved with murdering someone but got away with jail time because he was a cooperating witness. I want hornets to stay the gently caress away from him, no matter his talent. Same with Bridges. I'm less optimistic they cut ties with Bridges given how silent they've been. Scoot seems to have an awesome attitude and is high character guy, why you'd gamble on Miller if they're close at all in talent, I have no idea
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:As a Portland fan I spent most of yesterday reading about Millers situation. I ain't going to hold it against him, and not because he is good at basketball but because he was barely involved. It's been hard to parse through so many articles but here is my timeline: If you actually believe anything he said here you are a mark. He was an accomplice and had a good lawyer. They protected him also because he was star player in Alabama.
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Brogeoisie posted:If you actually believe anything he said here you are a mark. He was an accomplice and had a good lawyer. They protected him also because he was star player in Alabama. Would you be interested in telling us what evidence you have on this instead of being rude?
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Bottom line is there’s evidence via dashcam and surveillance that show that miller wasnt there for the shooting and if the prosecution could have pinned an accessory or felony misdemeanor why not? He returned his friends gun without knowing it was going to be used in anger, then went to get some food, which is why he wasn’t prosecuted
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Blind Pineapple posted:There's no way Miller gets past the Rockets. Owner is a loud and proud Trump supporter and they just hired a sex-pest coach. Character issues are not a factor for them. No. The Rockets are not high on Miller and they would sooner trade Miller for a win now piece than draft him. They are going for Scoot (or Thompson if for someone reason they think he can develop a shot), trading out for an experienced player, or an outside chance drafting Cam Whitmore. Just because the owner sucks doesn't mean they are going to draft a questionable guy.
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We are talking about a scenario where Miller falls to four which would certainly mean Scoot and probably at least one of the twins was drafted ahead of him and off the table.
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Rick posted:We are talking about a scenario where Miller falls to four which would certainly mean Scoot and probably at least one of the twins was drafted ahead of him and off the table. Yes, I am saying in that scenario Houston likely trades it for a player into their cap space. Miller might not make it past 4 or 5, but it's not because Houston is drafting him, which is what I was responding to.
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3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:No. The Rockets are not high on Miller and they would sooner trade Miller for a win now piece than draft him. Not sure where you’re seeing that
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morestuff posted:Not sure where you’re seeing that Givony might not hit on his takes but he's not wrong on what people inside the Rockets organization are feeling. But also the 3 is the main spot the Rockets have been looking at to upgrade with a vet aside from the point guard position if they cannot get Scoot. I'm not sure where anyone is seeing the Rockets specifically are interesting in Brandon Miller.
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