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You hear about how it sucks a lot now in general but I was on the r/teachers subreddit recently and they make it sound like literal hell. It seems like a majority of the people there are suffering from clinical depression if they haven’t given up and left the field already What say you, teacher goons?
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pencilhands posted:I was on the r/teachers subreddit
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May 25, 2023 01:31
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deal with lovely kids all day and maybe even be shot by one while not being paid as much as one of those kids is probably making for streaming fortnite Seems fine
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May 25, 2023 01:40
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teaching is a rewarding and fulfilling profession and they have a powerful union and make a grip for only working basically 9 months out of the year. sounds ftw to me
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May 25, 2023 01:43
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american teachers have a different experience i've heard, however
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May 25, 2023 01:44
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I'm not a teacher but I looked into it recently and one thing I can say is that the economy has fallen apart so incredibly bad that outside of sales, engineering, or software development, teaching is one of the best careers to start out in right now pay-wise because it has guaranteed raise structures that mean you get a higher salary with tenure and further education. Starting pay for a teacher is comparable to or higher than most entry-level jobs and guarantees a bump of like $20k in my state over 8 years (and getting a masters). You'll never get rich doing it but it's one of the only career tracks in my major city that guarantees you'll get paid enough to rent a studio apartment after 8 years. But every single teacher I know has spoken about it with abject horror ever since 2020 and every one of them is looking for a way out, even an old career teacher who did it for 40 years and used to love it. But I don't know a ton of teachers so that's anecdotal evidence based on 4 people. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 01:50 on May 25, 2023 |
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May 25, 2023 01:45
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Depends where you teach but you deal with lovely kids lashing out at you and their shittier parents all day. Discipline is so weird right now that you can have a raging drunk 16 year old and no one can touch them so you just patiently walk by them to try and lead them to an exit while you wait for School PD that will give them a stern talking to. And all that is before FOX news says you want to gently caress all the kids and teach them to be gay communists because you want them to read about, like, Anne Frank. The profession saw a *huge* exodus of teachers and site administrators into district or out of school positions because the kids who came back from Covid had just zero idea how to work in a social setting with behavioral expectations and restrictions. poo poo like straight up taking phone calls during class or not understanding why they had to show up more than twice a month in order to pass a class. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 02:20 on May 25, 2023 |
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May 25, 2023 02:17
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the best teachers i've had could have gone into a career making triple what they're currently making instead of being crammed into a 40-kid "temp class" doublewide trailor in a converted parking lot and getting yelled at by helicopter parents all day so it's definitely a labor of love
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May 25, 2023 02:21
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Mr.Acula posted:deal with lovely kids all day and maybe even be shot by one while not being paid as much as one of those kids is probably making for streaming fortnite lmao
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May 25, 2023 02:22
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Dollar store CameronisGod up in here
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May 25, 2023 02:23
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Yea dude it loving sucks but people on reddit are like, different, ya know? Anyway want to know about my student who started off the year with A's who now gets F's ever since his dad got sent to jail for a double murder, gang related, or do you want to talk about my student last year who OD'd in my classroom and was having seizures in my classroom?
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May 25, 2023 02:24
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Smugworth posted:Dollar store CameronisGod up in here Waiting for someone from the UK to start posting mediocre threads so we can have a Poundland so-and-so
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May 25, 2023 03:17
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posting in pencilhands thread GBS 2023
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May 25, 2023 03:18
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My sister in law had to teach kindergarten over Zoom. And didn’t get a raise that year because she wasn’t “effective”. You have to have a heart for it because I would have dropkicked that principal.
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the kids are never the problem--it's every square loving inch of red tape. every little thing you do is scrutinized and picked apart and anything you want to do has to pass through unending channels. got the gently caress out of that career fast to instead live as an unemployed bum
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I was a teacher for like 8 years and just straight up gave up because kids are horrible these days and they are unable to function without the constant dopamine hits that isntagram and tiktok gives them I had a few students that I had actual real life Dead Poets Society/Breakfast Club/Good Will Hunting "It's Not Your Fault" moments with but even still I don't regret quitting Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 25, 2023 |
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May 25, 2023 04:07
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Grem posted:Anyway want to know about my student who started off the year with A's who now gets F's ever since his dad got sent to jail for a double murder, gang related, or do you want to talk about my student last year who OD'd in my classroom and was having seizures in my classroom? If this turns to a "Teacher's stories about childhood trauma" I'm all for it.
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May 25, 2023 04:17
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you can teach a man to fish but you can't make it drink
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May 25, 2023 04:46
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I assisted teaching for a year and got sick so often that I was over-prescribed antibiotics and it wiped out my gut flora and I couldn't poop right for years. So weren't great.
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How much money it would take to get me to be a teacher in TYOOL 2023. I’m thinking 7 figure salary.
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May 25, 2023 06:05
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Grem posted:Yea dude it loving sucks but people on reddit are like, different, ya know? well, that doesn't sound uplifting at all
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May 25, 2023 06:09
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They get the whole summer off. Cry me a river.
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May 25, 2023 07:07
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A crippling internet obsession is a good first step to a career in teaching, nothing a bored teen can come up with in a school day is even close to the abuse you'll get for twitting how you didn't personally care for the newest superhero film.
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May 25, 2023 09:26
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Haven't seen an original, name-brand Wizard Master thread for a while. Think OP might've taken my advice and assassinated him. Good for you, OP.
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Grem posted:Yea dude it loving sucks but people on reddit are like, different, ya know? I could add to this pile too: a student that I'm 99% sure suffered from symptoms of psychosis, and I'll never know because the parents believed God was speaking through them and wouldn't get the kid treatment. One who left class to smoke weed, likely to deal with how he felt about their father being killed a few years back. Another who's estranged father abducted and murdered their mother in a fit of jealousy. And the inevitable, inexorable march of kids to the office time and again after pictures sent in confidence no longer remain that way. Szyznyk posted:My sister in law had to teach kindergarten over Zoom. And didn’t get a raise that year because she wasn’t “effective”. You have to have a heart for it because I would have dropkicked that principal. August 2020 and we were in a Zoom faculty meeting in preparation for a return to hybrid learning for the parents that wanted it. We were just happy to have made it that far and were ready for another school year. We weren't ready for the principal to launch a bitch fit about how our middle school students had dropped one letter grade and our elementary school students had dropped two letter grades. "Don't mess with my scores," I believe she said. That was the planting of the seed, the beginning of the end for me. I quit in January after 14 years of teaching. I loved the kids but the work was untenable. My salary as a teacher hadn't changed in 10 years. I had constant outbreaks of dishydrotic eczema from the stress. Just shy of 4 months into my new job, I was given a 4% raise for the work I'd done. The way we handle education in this country is absolutely deliberate. ElectricSheep fucked around with this message at 12:23 on May 25, 2023 |
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May 25, 2023 12:18
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ElectricSheep posted:I could add to this pile too: a student that I'm 99% sure suffered from symptoms of psychosis, and I'll never know because the parents believed God was speaking through them and wouldn't get the kid treatment. One who left class to smoke weed, likely to deal with how he felt about their father being killed a few years back. Another who's estranged father abducted and murdered their mother in a fit of jealousy. And the inevitable, inexorable march of kids to the office time and again after pictures sent in confidence no longer remain that way. Holy poo poo no raise in 10 YEARS? wtf????
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Pay is pretty drat good in the Netherlands. Experienced, university schooled teachers can get over €5000 a month, which is a lot. Covid kids are incredibly badly socialized, having been used to multiple years of sitting at home with their laptop in front of them, while goofing off on their phones just out of view, in their first years of puberty that are pretty critical for teaching a child boundaries and proper behavior in classroom settings. It's frustrating. If a kid doesn't want to change, they won't. There's not a whole lot you can do about it, except send them out of your classroom. But if a quarter of your students is like that, you can't realistically send a quarter of the room away to gently caress off in the hallways. Red tape is everywhere, because A. kids do everything to pass so they'll grasp at formalities to pass and B. some particularly authoritarian school staff likes to express their power by screwing over kids, which leads to red tape to protect the kids from Cartman-esque 'RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH' deans and teachers.
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Let's see when I went to work for a school as a chemistry teacher in the American south the starting pay was 30k, I turned that down for a job receiving packages in a laboratory. Best choice I ever made. Edit: the first raise did indeed come after I think five or ten years, whatever was just after the typical burnout amount of years for the average teacher
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May 25, 2023 13:07
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How much does a lab package handler make anyway?
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By popular demand posted:How much does a lab package handler make anyway? 30k roughly, but I got a raise every year, the hours were better and the work was super easy. None of that even includes the potential for promotion which happened pretty quick to regular old (chromatography) chemist Basically better than being a teacher in every way which is sad because I genuinely did want to teach and was looking forward to it for a brief time
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Knot My President! posted:the best teachers i've had could have gone into a career making triple what they're currently making instead of being crammed into a 40-kid "temp class" doublewide trailor in a converted parking lot and getting yelled at by helicopter parents all day so it's definitely a labor of love
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By now I've concluded that the only thing that could change the American education system is every single teacher starting the class on Communism 101 - Lesson 1: How the rich have doomed your generation to a life of miserable poverty. Lesson #2 is The Armed Forces and how they exploit the poor in the benefit of Big Oil.
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In my first year. It’s a lot of work. The students that clearly have a poo poo attitude about things and then make it out like it’s your fault can get annoying. The worst is the parents. I’ve gotten some bizarre confrontations where I question what the heck they think education should be. Overall though, it’s cool when you see students actually engage and learn things. So I like it. It also helps that I’m not dirt poor from working retail.
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I watched three first year teachers all flame out right before lockdown. The Chinese language team quit because they were never given a classroom from the start until literally two weeks before lockdown happened. Another was one who helped tutor struggling kids who left fast as poo poo saying he was going back to work as some sort of analyst for forests or something. The principal wanted me to give my personal phone number out for the entire school's parents to do remote tech assistance. Needless to say she was out of her goddamn mind. Also hilarious is I got the school to spend $2k on parts to repair computers just to release me, then dump all the old computers. Now they're sitting on lots and lots of random poo poo they can't even use though they paid for it.
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lol this dipshit reads reddit
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Schweinhund posted:They get the whole summer off. Cry me a river. lol they have the whole summer to work lovely low paying jobs to supplement their terrible pay.
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pencilhands posted:Holy poo poo no raise in 10 YEARS? Florida
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i have a couple friends who are high school teachers in different parts of the country and the impression i get from both is that most of the stress with "teaching these days" comes from dealing with parents far more than dealing with kids. especially anything to do with college prep/admissions.
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Earwicker posted:i have a couple friends who are high school teachers in different parts of the country and the impression i get from both is that most of the stress with "teaching these days" comes from dealing with parents far more than dealing with kids. especially anything to do with college prep/admissions. from the other side of higher ed, absolutely, parents are the worst part of teaching up until grad school.
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Had two kids cheat on the final and admit it. One Mom wanted me to write another final because if her child hadn’t cheated he would have done better then a zero. I had to have a loving sit down in the office to get them to stop contacting me over this unreasonable request. Apparently, if you are the one providing answers, you shouldn’t be punished according to mom.
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