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And they were already planning Voyager at that point. I don't think it's ever stated that Chakotay's from that planet, but there was a consistent theme of Maquis=American Indian. Which is kind of ironic since they seem to be closer to settler colonists than they are to colonized peoples.
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The Prophets don't deserve anyone's loyalty.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:There's no way to read it that makes it a normal thing to say, lol. Just weirdly aggressive. "This show is great! Also, gently caress those nerds, amirite?" Yeah, I'm somewhat skeptical that season two of SNW is going to make the effort to stand on its own and really be its own thing, given that season one seemed to have no idea what to do with the characters like Hemmer or Ortega who weren't legacy characters from TOS, had a sudden twist return of Sybok, remade scenes from the original series shot-for-shot, and seems convinced that it needs to write the Gorn as absolute monsters because otherwise it won't make sense for Kirk to realize they're not, ten years from now and fifty years ago. Like, it's not Season 3 Picard wallowing in nostalgia, but it's not exactly doing anything new.
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Gaz-L posted:That's being at best uncharitable, at worst just straight up making stuff up? I mean, like or hate the new Gorn but I have no idea where you're getting that it's been done to make Arena make sense rather than just that they wanted to do a particular type of story/antagonist and the Gorn fitted. That is the charitable reading. The uncharitable reading is that they looked at an episode about how the 'savages' on the frontier are actually sapient beings with their own valid point of view who can be negotiated with, and decided "No, wouldn't it be cooler if they actually were monsters to be exterminated? Nits make lice!"
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Many Bothans died to bring us this episode.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I have to admit Search - Part 2 fell flat for me. I generally liked the Odo and Kira bits, but was kind of expecting the Changelings to ask Odo to turn on Kira. I'm not sure if it would have been better or worse than what the actual twist was. People say Year of Hell has a cop-out ending, but I feel the Search is worse - at least Year of Hell warns you right from the start that there's time shenanigans, so the reset button doesn't come out of nowhere. quote:On the other hand, House of Quark was a blast. I think this is the first time we've ever seen Ferengi virtues portrayed as valuable and with merit. The Klingons made for a fantastic foil and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Quark out maneuver their sense of honor while actually doing the right thing. One of the things DS9 does well that the other shows don't do as much is have the aliens interact with each other, not just humans.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Neat, but a bit disappointing they're sticking with just four main factions. I know in the real world there's only so many prominent alien groups, but Trek in the show always liked to imply that there was a lot more complexity in international galactic politics even if it didn't spend that much time detailing it, so that they could feel the freedom to slide in new big alien nations whenever they wanted. The Stellaris Star Trek mod is really good at that - they've grabbed aliens from the novels, RPGs, and ones that were only mentioned in passing to fill out the map - so if you're, say, the Romulans, there's still other empires to worry about on the other side of the Empire from the Federation. And it's fun seeing weird alliances form - I had a game where Cardassia collapsed, but a Tzenkethi/Breen coalition took their place as the major power in that part of the map.
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Atlas Hugged posted:"On the one hand, I could save your life. On the other hand, I could replace part of your brain with cotton candy. Your choice man-who-is-suffering-from-trauma-after-being-brought-back-from-the-dead-and-incapable-of-making-rational-decisions." "Look, buddy, I once treated a guy with suicidal depression by wiping his mind without his consent. Now you want to cooperate with my treatment, or do you want me to get creative?"
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Naomi Wildman's mother saw her newborn daughter die and then was handed an exact duplicate from an alternate universe. I'm sure that won't leave her with any lingering trauma or psychological issues about her child!
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Atlas Hugged posted:Anyone else ever noticed that for a peaceful, cooperative organization that promotes peace and enlightenment, the Federation sure is in and wins a lot of wars and military operations? Given that all their neighbors are expansionist militaristic empires, and despite that they maintained peace with the Romulan Empire for more than two hundred years and were apparently only at war with the Klingon Empire in two very brief conflicts, I think the Federation deserves some credit for keeping the peace.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:I think the Federation president and Council are also the defacto government of Earth, since that's where it's located. The early drafts of Homefront apparently went into more detail about how much authority the Federation president has over Earth and mentioned United Earth, but it was all cut for time and to streamline the story. It's kinda funny that, after so many episodes, we still don't really know anything about how the Federation government works - there's never been an episode that's established how the Federation council or the president is elected, or what sort of authority they have over member worlds.
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MrMojok posted:Just watched Relics They actually just locked him in the holodeck next to Moriarty.
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Lord Hydronium posted:It would have been fun if they'd done a one-off "Lower Decks" style episode that explored the night shift. I think the most we see is a few bits of it throughout the series, usually with Data in charge. I want an episode where the main cast start their duty and the night shift commander is just "Hey guys, hope you slept well. While you were asleep, the ship was attacked by an alien entity that claims to have been worshiped in ancient Carthage as Moloch and he forced the bridge crew into an illusory version of the Third Punic War that seemed to last five months for us but was actually just a few minutes. Also, we finished mapping that nebula. Well, see you tonight, the bridge is yours."
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Datalore is just a really bad episode, even by season one standards. We get a lot of Data exposition that ends up not being relevant to anything and feels more like someone saw the bit in the writer's guide about Data having the memories of a doomed colony and wanted to establish that onscreen but couldn't work out anything interesting to do with it. Then we get seemingly interminable scenes of characters showing Lore around the ship before he finally turns out to be evil - which the audience had realized as soon as he showed up. He's got no motivations and just wants to kill everyone because he's evil. Then we get the idiotic 'shut up Wesley' scene where everyone forgets that they were the ones who told Wesley to keep an eye on Data in the first place as it all suddenly becomes a crappy kids show where the parents just don't listen to the kid protagonist. It's really kind of amazing that the show would later bring back both Lore and the Crystalline Entity and actually do interesting things with both of them.
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Fighting Trousers posted:It sounds like it was the lead single of a 90s Christian pop-rock band trying to make their break into mainstream radio. Just like the Federation!
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Atlas Hugged posted:Like Rain Man Jake was pretty loving annoying, but the one woman's flaw that required her to be in an institution was that she was slutty? That got an actual what the gently caress out of me. Yeah, it wasn't clear why she has to be institutionalized while Lwaxana gets to represent the Federation.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah the Memory Alpha article says her problem is being delusional and believing everyone is obsessed with her, not just being horny. The actress mentions trying to play her with a bit of a Hannibal Lector vibe. Again, Lwaxana.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's especially funny having Chakotay say that line since I think he personally blew up more shuttles than any other crew member. Chakotay just loudly insisting they still have a full compliment of shuttles anytime anyone brings up all his crashes.
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I do appreciate that they directly refer to it as rape.
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disaster pastor posted:Yup, it's come up before in the thread, though it wasn't that late in production. It was late enough that the Mad parody of the film still had Picard on the surface.
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Atlas Hugged posted:One thing that had me laughing out loud though was the montage at the end. They showed clips basically from everyone's relationships and escapades across the show, but for Worf, they only showed clips from his season 7, which is him and Ezria being stranded and him fighting Gowron. Jadzia wasn't featured in any of the montage clips. Completely erased from the show. They even had a clip from Our Man Bashir, with Worf smoking a cigar... Worf, that wasn't you, that was just a hologram with your appearance! How are you remembering that and not your wife?!
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Penitent posted:It's really interesting how unprepared they appear to have been to write a show about a space station in fixed space given the number of "aliens of the week" that randomly came through the wormhole in the beginning of the show's run. You can see some ideas beginning to form though, the Hunters from Dramatis Personae were like some sort of proto Jem'Hadar. IIRC, the original plan was that the Jem'hadar would be infantry only, and the Tosk Hunters would be brought back as the ones actually crewing Dominion ships.
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Kesper North posted:Names are powerful. Names are at the heart of everything. Names are one of the most powerful tools humanity has invented! Yes, that's right, referring to the Romulan state as an 'Empire', when actually it appears to be an autocratic republic with no single head of state is exactly the same as blood libel. Jesus loving Christ.
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DavidCameronsPig posted:Odo being a cop during the occupation really didn’t make any sense, no matter how much they bent over backwards trying to explain it. And they bent pretty far backwards. Also, the whole 'Odo enforced the laws fairly and equally' doesn't make sense given that, you know, the laws of a colonial occupation generally aren't fair to start off with. You can't be a 'good cop' if the whole system is designed to enforce inequality. It's like trying to enforce Jim Crow laws 'equally'. And given the Bajoran attitudes to collaborators, it's really hard to buy he'd keep his job after the Cardassian withdrawal.
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Nessus posted:It seems like poor ship design to have your business end at the end of a long tube from your engineering section, but I guess when I look at it that way it actually makes sense. Kind of approaching the same implicit reason behind nacelle/saucer from a different perspective. I really like that most of the TOS ships share some basic design elements - the Enterprise and the Klingon battlecruiser both have a saucer/forward section separated from the engineering hull, the Romulan bird of prey has a saucer design like the Enterprise, they all have engines separated from the main body of the ship on pylons. It gives the impression that there's some sort of physical reason and benefit for those choices when even alien ships that have their own design language follow similar rules.
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IIRC, Time Squared was originally meant to lead into Q-Who, and the nonsensical situation was meant to be another of Q's tests. But that idea got dropped without anyone bothering to rewrite the script so it'd make sense on its own.
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Der Kyhe posted:If Enterprise did what it did in S4 for the entire run it would be remembered as the best Star Trek series. I am serious about this. Soulless continuity porn and rehashing TOS storylines? Well, I guess people like SNW...
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8one6 posted:I don't hate it but I am extremely glad they didn't end the series on the "kid looking at a snow globe" ending that was proposed where the camera pulls out from the set and old Benny Hill is watching them film DS9. I still can't believe that was seriously considered, given that Far Beyond the Stars literally has a scene where the racist editor proposes making the story a dream as a compromise.
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I still want to know why Nomad had planet-killing weapons in the first place.
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The thing that gets me about Alexander in DS9 is that the character was like, ten. There was no reason to bring him back, they could have just said "Yeah, he's back on Earth and doing well at school, he just had his Bar Mitzvah, there's no reason for him to show up at a military outpost in the middle of a war." But instead they aged him up for no reason just so they could... what, establish that Worf is an even worse father than we thought and completely screwed this poor kid's life up?
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Star Trek's often had issues with scale, but the aliens in "When the Bough Breaks" thinking the twelve or so kids they abducted are going to make a meaningful difference to their planetary fertility crisis is a particularly egregious example.
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It wasn't just Roddenberry leaving - Gene Coon and D.C. Fontana had also largely checked out for the third season too.
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And as goofy as its comprehensiveness sometimes is, it is actually useful that it has entries for mundane things as well so if you're trying to remember which episode Wesley got a banana split in the face, there's an entry for desserts.
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For those wondering what's happening with the Axanar trashfire: It now has a new producer, literal, no-kidding cult-leader Dave Lanyon! Exactly what he's producing, given that the whole project is more copyright lawsuit than film nowadays is unclear.
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Freemason Rush Week posted:I liked the little faux documentary they made to drum up interest, imo it would have been better to aim for a fully polished version of that instead of whatever the gently caress they're trying to do now Yeah, I'd basically already lost interest in the project when it became clear the actual movie was going to be a generic war story and not a Ken Burns-style documentary about the Klingon War. So I don't feel we missed much.
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Fun trivia about Aquiel - 'The dog did it!' was a last minute change to the script, the original plan was that Aquiel would have been the killer. But for some deranged reason the writers got it into their heads that she'd be a good recurring romance for Geordi. Then after it aired they realized they had no chemistry and the actress just didn't work, and so she was never heard from again.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Birthright is a really boring two parter where we get to see Worf getting ready to bang a teenager and then instantly dropping her when he sees she’s got sharp ears I really wish DS9 had done something with Worf dealing with Romulans when they were allies in the Dominion War. His prejudice against them is such a recurring theme in TNG, it would have been really nice to see him overcome it.
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Powered Descent posted:That's one of the more curious blind spots about the Trek setting. Given the amount of territory and power they control, those empires must each have a whole bunch of inhabited alien worlds under their boot, but we never hear anything about them. Maybe it's just that the writers don't want to deal with that complexity when writing an on-and-off ally like the Klingons, or even an "occasionally we see the good in them because this is Star Trek after all" like the Romulans and Cardassians. I did like that in Discovery, when they visit the Klingon homeworld, there's an Orion quarter and lots of other aliens living there and doing business - made it feel for once like the cosmopolitan center of an empire.
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zoux posted:Except why the gently caress is Beverly an amateur metaphasic shields enthusiast? Because Beverly can do everything! She runs sickbay! She commands the night shift! She runs a drat theater company in her spare time! While Data, the android who doesn't even need sleep is slacking off playing Sherlock Holmes badly, she's organizing engineering conferences just for the hell of it! It's perfectly reasonable that "Remember Me" Picard thought it made sense that they didn't need a crew besides her!
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