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Ah, Starcraft 2. Excellent gameplay (especially with Moebius mod) and absolutely atrocious writing. While people were complaining that single player campaign is glorified tutorial, I like how every mission is different and at least tries to go beyond "kill everything that isn't you". Also opening cinematics for Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void are loving awesome. Szarrukin fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Jun 1, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 08:24 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:17 |
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Yup, art team is that one part of Blizzard that has constantly been top class.Tenebrais posted:Although in retrospect Tychus there having trousers on when he gets sealed permanently into his armour seems like it's really going to start causing problems in a few hours' and a few drinks' time. In Tyranny there was a NPC who was permanently sealed in his armour and it has been mentioned that he reeks of poo poo and piss.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 09:52 |
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Entire WoL story looks like someone in Blizzard got really fascinated by Firefly.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 11:32 |
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SoundwaveAU posted:
There's a mod called Nightmare Difficulty which should be pretty self-explanatory.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 13:29 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Legacy of the Voice is also a perfectly fine game if you ignore everything the previous games established about the Protoss. It's funny how World of Warcraft draenei started as "fantasy Protoss" but now it's more like post-WoL Protoss are basically lightforged draenei from Legion and onwards, just replaced Burning Legion with Swarm/Xel'naga and Argus with Aiur.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 09:03 |
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UNN News Reports is a joke that was was funny first and even second time, but they decided to spread it over entire game, effectively killing it. Tychus is such obvious Jayne Cobb expy it hurts and his obvious betrayal is one of the worst "plot twist" I've ever seen. The lesser is told about Jim+Kerrigan romantic subplot, the better.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 09:52 |
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Cythereal posted:We're already starting to see, by omission, probably the biggest part of Brood War's plot that SC2 would very much like you to forget: that Mengsk is only still alive because Raynor and Kerrigan saved his life. Raynor saved him from the UED on Kerrigan's orders, and then Kerrigan twice explicitly had the opportunity to kill him but decided that it would be more entertaining to let him live, having lost everything he'd worked so hard to achieve. Brood War had implied that the Dominion was flat-out dead at the end. I still wonder why Blizzard decided to ignore basically everything that happened in Brood War except hybrids.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 22:00 |
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UNN News Reports running gag had one interesting moment with Donny having a BSOD and muttering "I had a brother there" while realizing what Mengsk has done to Tarsonis but it immediately got killed by "mental breakdown is le funny" joke. For the same reason I hated JJJ running gag in Spiderman: Miles Morales; there are only so many way you can have "bumbling rear end in a top hat who obviously isn't meant to be taken serious talks bullshit about main character" joke without boring people to death. Somebody fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jun 4, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 4, 2023 09:35 |
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quote:Weapon and Armor upgrades are the only thing you have to research in every mission. Which is 10/10 solution and one of many excellent changes in SC2 gameplay. I would really like to recommend you all Moebius mod, which cranks the difficulty up (Zero Hour finally has other objectives than "don't fall asleep"), adds some extra objectives to most missions and, last but not least, pimps up almost every Terran unit, not only giving them Protoss-like shields, but also fancy abilities, for example Moebius!Medics can heal machines and set turrets and Moebius!Marines use laser rifles and have self-healing skill.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 16:16 |
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BlazetheInferno posted:The Starcraft 1 LP currently in progress by JohnKilltrane decided to turn Horner into the Magistrate, but that is purely creative license rather than any indication of canon. Oh, that's why I was so sure SC1 Magistrate = Matt Horner PurpleXVI posted:Casualties in the billions within at most a few days? Yeah, someone really loved Warhammer 40k because we're getting these insane inflated numbers getting thrown around that clearly no one understands. Same thing happened to number of planets - SC1 and Brood War had pretty small amount of colonized planets, SC2 started throwing them left and right.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 16:25 |
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Omobono posted:A farseer for warcraft that got isekai-d in starcraft That would be fun.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2023 07:24 |
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Honestly, I'll take WoL mission design over 10x"destroy all units" campaign anytime. Especially with Nightmare mods when any tutorial feeling is gone.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2023 20:02 |
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Ah yes, Firebats. Two games, one expansion, multiple mods and nobody managed to make them useful. Amazing.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2023 10:26 |
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PurpleXVI posted:Videogame evolution is my favourite kind of evolution, where it's always literally just like levelling up and always makes you stronger or smarter, and can be tracked as linear upgrade over time. Ah yes, "Pokemon evolution". Also, wasn't it implied that Dr. Hanson herself is responsible for Zerg invasion on Agria?
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2023 09:35 |
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anilEhilated posted:So, Medics lost their flash grenades for SC2? The manual seems to mention them... They got them back in Moebius mod. I know it's the fifth time this week I'm showing Moebius mod to the class, but it's just so good.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 22:38 |
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quote:I'll be honest, I don't like Donny and Kate's whole gimmick. Szarrukin fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jul 2, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2023 11:40 |
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Rhonne posted:There is one point in the game where they could have done something interesting with Donny, but because you can do these missions in any order, it doesn't lead anywhere. You mean "I had a brother there?" moment? Yeah, I hoped that will be some fresh air, but they just turned it into ableist joke.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2023 20:24 |
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There is also a chance that Hanson is making up all that "zerg virus" poo poo and she just want to experiment on zerg stuff and colonists as suggested by that renegade ghost guy who has yet to appear .
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2023 08:22 |
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I absolutely love field manual.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2023 16:37 |
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so basically Inquisition and psykers from 40k, with Ghosts being sanctioned psykers.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2023 01:25 |
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Cythereal posted:Because he's an awful racist stereotype and I, for one, have been actively voting to delay him joining as long as possible. Blizzard surely loves their Jamaican stereotypes. I wonder if they managed to put one in Diablo.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2023 15:06 |
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SC2 Raynor is Malcolm Reynolds expy written by someone who totally misunderstood "Firefly".
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2023 22:37 |
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I'm almost sure that at some point Firebats were supposed to be unlocked at Outbreak and Hellions at Evacuation, not the other way around. It still doesn't answer the question "why Firebats even exist if everything they can do Hellions do better".
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2023 15:32 |
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I was sure you are linking to GGG 24h achievement run, but you did it yourself, you absolute madman.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2023 11:07 |
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The only use I found for Goliaths is AA support for siege tanks.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 16:31 |
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Synastren posted:ed: This thread got me to try to polish off the campaign achievements. Let's see if I can get through them all. Except 500k Lost Viking, gently caress that one.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2023 14:51 |
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Prologue campaign of LotV is somehow even worse.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2023 14:02 |
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I wonder what's worse - SC2 writing or Shadowlands writing.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 02:06 |
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Fajita Queen posted:I can't recall a single part of Shadowlands' writing that I thought was good.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 04:22 |
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One of future missions has sign that has Polish flag on it, of all things, and "Żywią Y Bronią" which is garbled Polish for "to feed and to protect".
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2023 10:20 |
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ulmont posted:Yup. minimum of 1500 kills and also holding one spot 25 minutes for an optional objective, but it’s “until the last Protoss falls”. Moebius mod tried to salvage at least some fun by giving us a possibility to do a suicide psionic nuke at the end of the mission, killing literally everything on map, us included which is at least a little bit more fun than watch zerg and hybrids killing you.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2023 22:50 |
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I'm surprised they didn't went with "Mengsk was corrupted by Amon. And UED too. And Aldaris."
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2023 00:01 |
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ulmont posted:Are the campaigns worth buying if I haven’t played them, and what’s up with the pricing? It looks like Wings of Liberty and the Protoss campaign are both free, I think, leaving it $15 for Heart of the Swarm and $10 for the Nova campaign, or…$40 for the collection which gets me in addition ??? Wait, Legacy of the Void is free?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 13:26 |
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Did I already mentioned how I loving hate the fact that they had excellent chance to make Donny Vermilion someone with actual (if small) character development instead of long overstayed joke... but they decided to turn this entire "subplot" (and I'm being generous here) into lovely ableist joke? Yes? Well, then I just mentioned it again.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2023 22:54 |
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And, despite all that, it's still less atrocious of two "Blizzard makes Morally Gray Character -> it sucks -> turns out she was corrupted all the time! -> redemption arc" cases. Does Diablo franchise has its own Corrupted Female Character?
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 21:14 |
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Warcraft has its share of Corrupted Male Characters too, as for Starcraft I think Stukov is the only one. Still, none of them (except Arthas, I guess?) has such significance to lore and story as Kerrigan and Sylvanas.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 21:31 |
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HOTS trailer and LotV trailer are absolutely awesome. HOTS itself is incredibly stupid when it comes to story, but my favourite part of SC2 when it comes to gameplay and campaign missions. Much better than LotV and its campaign where almost every mission is "There are (number) (things) scattered around the map that need to be destroyed. Each is guarded by a progressively stronger force of enemies" as Grant has hilariously pointed out in his no death challenge.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2023 10:22 |
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quote:Here, the opening mission consists of Kerrigan throwing all the good will the Umojans are showing her back in their faces by trashing their place just to prove a point. I mean, she was literally their lab rat.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2023 20:17 |
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Carbot version of HotS intro which explains what happened to that Battlecruiser falling off the sky.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2023 20:45 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:17 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I don't believe the writers were coming from that angle, but if they toned down the true love poo poo and focused more directly on him being her anchor to humanity, the scenes so far would work largely as written. Yet another case of potentially good story ruined by people unable to comprehend that man and woman can have a significant relationship without being in love (and by many, many other things, but you know what I am trying to say). One of things I really liked in "Honor amongst Thieves" is that there is absolutely no romantic tension between Edgin and Holga and still their relationship is deep and meaningful. I'm sorry for offtopic, amatonormativity in culture is my pet peeve.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2024 00:03 |