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I really like D4 but it takes way too long to level another character and if it takes this long for the seasonal characters then I’m out.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2023 17:09 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 16:10 |
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After beating the game and some of the endgame is there anything to do until season 1 starts? I don’t want to burn myself out leveling if it doesn’t really matter until season 1.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2023 15:05 |
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That exp thing better change cause I’m not going to grind that much exp again. The seasons are supposed to be super fast to level not barely faster than normal.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2023 20:14 |
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I think we are hitting that casual/hardcore divide and people being told to just level again are like, “no.” Which I think speaks to the fact that you can’t power level like crazy. Leveling another character would be an easier pill to swallow if 1-50 goes by in a day.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2023 14:31 |
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I like seasons and I’ll play season 1 but I don’t think there is anything wrong with people not liking the seasonal stuff. If anything, blizzard should have something for those who don’t want to level again and they can earn cosmetics, because like you all said eternal realms don’t matter so who cares if they make a new character or not. Or just let people copy their character to the current season but they start at level 50 or something.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2023 15:25 |
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I just finished leveling an alt without the campaign and it was nowhere near fast enough unless there is some power leveling thing I don’t know of and didn’t feel that much faster than the campaign.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2023 15:53 |
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Ice Fist posted:First, I'm not mocking you. I'm genuinely confused by "it's a slog to level an alt" comments, followed by "in PoE it takes two weeks to get the basics down". I simply don't understand this because it wasn't remotely my experience I disagree and think leveling alts is pretty bad and slow. You just mindlessly grind whispers till 50 and do strongholds. It may not be super hard but it is lame and boring. Like the 10% exp buff is not nearly enough if they want people to participate besides the super hardcore people who already have someone in WT4.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2023 17:13 |
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D4 isn’t too bad for an MMO but I prefer the pace of destiny or FFXIV, maybe a bit more social stuff and some dungeons we could group up for could go a long way.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2023 14:38 |
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These poor devs look dead, no wonder they are making mistakes, they haven’t stopped working since it came out.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 19:44 |
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This game feels way too grindy now, I don’t know what they did, but it feels slow and grindy.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 15:24 |
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This poo poo is way too grindy, Why do we have to relevel reknown, waypoints and everything else. I don’t mind playing but it everything feels so much slower than before and the terrible dungeon layouts are driving me loving crazy where I have to go from the end of the cave back to the entrance to take the right turn instead of the left. I just want to mash monsters and have loot fly out.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 17:30 |
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Finished up the season yesterday, game is an 8/10. Season is a 6/10. Hearts are mostly lame except the fun ones that are rare drops. I’m going to be honest, D4 is more fun than base D3 but this game isn’t near as good as D3:RoS. I don’t think the seasons are good enough and the game isn’t fun enough to do all that blizzard wants you to do in a season. I hit 50 and just checked out.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 19:41 |
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Posting about posting is usually a sign a game IS actually bad I’ve found unfortunately. If someone is spamming about posters, it’s because there isn’t anything exciting to really talk about.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 13:05 |
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I’m glad this game isn’t that good, it’s letting me play other games, thanks for making a mediocre Diablo game blizzard. Edit: good bones though
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2023 19:17 |
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Lmao, the devs changed their mind on things so fast it gave me whiplash. The numbers must be bad or someone went in there and asked WTF is going on with you guys.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2023 20:42 |
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Difficulty is a very hard thing to balance and blizzard couldn’t balance a box on the floor.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2023 20:47 |
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American McGay posted:I understand the endgame is very rigidly defined and not particularly interesting but you guys really gotta stop exaggerating the “sorting through items in town” part. Wow thanks, glad it’s just us being bad and not the terrible itemization, unclear modifiers and awful inventory.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2023 14:46 |
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I see the celebrated blizzard art team is not working on Season 2 of D4 because both S1 and S2 have garbage transmogs. Them all being the same basically ruins it and any identity.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2023 14:50 |
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I mean, if their basis for content is Destiny than the content is a little light especially the yearly expansion that’s coming. The battlepass armor is worse than destiny, destiny offers unique transmogs per class (little leeway as there are only 3 classes) and the seasonal content is generally ok, but as someone who plays both, Destiny’s live game blows D4 completely out of the water. I don’t think destiny does that great of a job to be honest either.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2023 16:20 |
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I have zero faith in the rebalancing after they gutted like every damage bucket but we’ll see, people smarter than me said it’s fine, but they said the same thing about s1.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2023 19:54 |
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What’s the point of overpower, someone who knows ARPGs explain the advantage of an overpower system? Just seems like a bunch of BS to do a little more damage?
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2023 21:05 |
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I had so much fun until I hit t3, NMD are really terrible, they take too long and aren’t worth it other than grinding exp and it’s awful. I wish they would just remove the dungeons and redo them all.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 14:18 |
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Now I’m just venting but the fact you have to get objectives to open doors in dungeons and they don’t show up until you are wayyy too close drives me up the wall as I can’t find the last devil’s scrotum to open the door of demonic butts. And it’s hidden on the corner of the map with no marker.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 16:24 |
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As soon as I hit WT3 and they are like go do MMO stuff I just immediately start a new character as the post-50 game is awful.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2023 14:31 |
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I need forgotten souls to reroll affixes, I have to grind whispers to summon varshan, grind herbs to get potions and elixers, grind NMD for glyph exp. That’s straight up WoW stuff.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2023 14:46 |
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kaxman posted:it's shameful that a t100 nightmare dungeon awards 206 glyph xp. its should not be completely linear from 1-100. They are dreadfully boring, the best decision I made this season was to just ignore NMD’s completely and I’m having a much better time.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2023 14:24 |
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I found the season fun and put it down after I finished the battle pass at like lvl 77 and I honestly don’t really want to level or play more as the game just gets more unfun as you get higher level. I would definitely say as someone who never got to WT4 at launch or season 1 that they did a good job of fixing exp and leveling until the 70s where you are basically set in your gear, upgrades rarely drop and you are hunting uniques and the game just gets worse. Ignoring NMDs is definitely the right call as they are just kinda bad unless you get the fast ones with easy objectives. The season being really easy also helps but I’m starting to feel like the seasonal stuff is getting old, helltides, world bosses and legion events need another pass as well if they want us in the open world doing something other than seasonal stuff. The bosses they added are nice but would really benefit from a way to group up.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2023 18:18 |
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They really need to remove all the renown stuff, I will never finish all the regions. The game just isn’t good enough to grind it out. If it stayed from season to season it would be fine as you slowly work toward it but no. They can get their engagement up from me by pointing good content in.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 21:58 |
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S3 looks meh as hell. I don’t know what I wanted but everything so far has looked resoundingly mediocre. Hope it plays better than it looks.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2024 16:42 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:Oh yeah that's universally a lovely thing to do and doesn't really have to do with discussing the game. I played this season till lvl 35 and I think I’m done, somehow they made a season worse than season 1 it’s almost impressive how bad this season is.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 17:25 |
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Bobby Deluxe posted:A few months ago they sent out a survey to random people, one of the questions was about a possible price point for the DLC and one of the extreme options was $100. So naturally this made its way to the clickbait circles of hell as Blizzard wanting to charge $100 for the DLC. Yea, I don’t get the problem here and I’m glad they reacted terribly to it. Anything that holds companies feet to the fire is a good thing in my book.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 19:42 |
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Paying2Lurk posted:I don't think taking the most outrageous option from a survey - that included $25, $50, etc prices as well - and presenting it in bad faith as "This is what Blizzard is planning to do!" is holding anyone's feet to the fire. They shouldn’t have put it in the survey then, blizzard is the one that made it. Also streamers 100% want a game to do well. At some point negativity clicks dry up.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 19:54 |
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Paying2Lurk posted:Putting a range of options, including outrageous ones, in a product survey is like, mundane business bullshit. Not some insidious, secret plot. Is it extreme when we pay 70$ for games and will probably pay 70$ for said expansion with a 100$ turbo premium option?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 20:09 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Super Nintendo games cost about $129 each when adjusted for inflation in the early 90's. Yea, but this is a false equivalency as the audience for games has grown exponentially and there aren’t physical costs anymore.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 20:16 |
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WarpDogs posted:A Link to the Past sold ~4.6mil, and if we use inflation math that nets to about $600mil in 2024 dollars. A significant portion of that went to the physical / retailer costs (and if this were a non-Nintendo game, licensing) I was going to say, the goal of D4 wasn’t to be a good game, although that helps a lot. The goal is to create a bunch of addicts who will buy cosmetics and battle passes. The 70$ almost doesn’t matter from the initial cost
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 20:46 |
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Well the vaults are better now but the robot is still boring, so it’s not as bad as before but still a pretty meh season.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2024 20:28 |
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Maybe it’s because I don’t like the season, but this season feels way grindier than last season, I feel like they toned drops down but I could be wrong. Everything feels like it’s designed to take 20% longer than it needs to.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 22:40 |
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Is there even really a point to helltides other than when you start WT3 or 4 or farming the boss mats? You get better loot almost always from doing seasonal stuff. E: I don’t really have a problem with them or anything, they just seem unnecessary with the seasonal stuff.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 19:18 |
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I played a ton last season and never got a useful unique, I just don’t get the itemization and droprates in this game. I thought they were headed in the right direction after a good season 2 but this season is just sucking the wind out of my sails. I want to get uniques to try a different build, but they never drop and I get bored of farming mats and stop playing. All these build guides are like you need this unique and I just cannot be bothered after farming him a few times
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2024 20:40 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 16:10 |
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I can’t get useful regular uniques and now they are going to buff Uber uniques? Real cart before the horse energy.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2024 20:36 |