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Apple's WWDC event is tomorrow (6.5.23) at 10AM PDT. Expected to be announced are: iOS 17, iPad OS 17, macOS 14, watchOS 10, new Macs, Apple's mixed-reality headset and more. Live YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E You can also watch online at https://www.apple.com/apple-events/ or on the Apple TV app. What are you most excited to see?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 00:09 |
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 07:49 |
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I want to see emoji reacts in iMessage instead of ❤️ 👍 👎 Ha Ha !! ??
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 00:21 |
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If this isn’t kosher, mods can delete this, but I’m thinking about buying a developer account so I can get access to the iOS beta tomorrow. If anybody else was interested in being added my developer account so they could get access to the beta for $10 a year, pm me.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 01:20 |
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the VR/AR thing is something I don't really have an interest in, but I am really curious to see how Apple markets it and how they portray John Public using it. I want to know if they're gonna push it for "gaming" so whales can play match-3 games with the king/teddy bear/garden guy in glorious VR, or if you can...somehow pair it with your phone and send messages/read emails/watch apple tv in some really weird roundabout way? More immediate to myself, im curious if they're gonna fix stage manager/multitasking in iPad OS 17 or if they're just gonna avoid it entirely and lean on how some certain new iPad OS 17 feature FCP/some other professional-lite apps better.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 04:04 |
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I’m curious how you demo a headset in a keynote.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 13:10 |
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smackfu posted:I’m curious how you demo a headset in a keynote. Very carefully. I know Apple has the mystique of solving things other companies can’t figure out, but I’m skeptical until shown otherwise. VR to me doesn’t seem to have a lot of practical uses outside of gaming. Maybe if it’s ever at the point of what google glass was going for. Who wants to wear a headset while walking around all day, or even just sitting in the office for the day?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 13:13 |
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I know there will be some push for this in the consumer space, but I have to think a lot of this is also for professionals. There's a huge push for AR/VR in stuff like healthcare and research/education. Apple has always had a big presence in education, and they've been pushing really hard to have that same presence in health care.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 14:46 |
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Jose Oquendo posted:There's a huge push for AR/VR in stuff like healthcare and research/education. Apple has always had a big presence in education, and they've been pushing really hard to have that same presence in health care. I'd be happy to be wrong but my gut says this is still a solution looking for a problem. A highly polished turd is still a piece of poo poo.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 15:30 |
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I work with a few researchers who do VR stuff and I know they would absolutely love it if Apple provided the hardware and software for it. It's all pie in the sky until we actually see it of course.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 15:44 |
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qirex posted:Is there though? The people who make this stuff certainly have ideas for research/education but VR already exists and hasn't found anything but a few very specific niches. It's one thing to say "wouldn't it be cool if you could look inside a person?" and another to actually build the application to do that. Floating 3d repair manual is another one but is anyone, even Boeing or Airbus going to spend a hundred million dollars making that happen? this is always Apple’s biggest problem- for every success that births a paradigm shift and new normal and a billion accessories and applications that take advantage of it there’s a spot where Apple went “and now it’s The Market’s turn to fill in this big hole that we’ve deliberately left” and it doesn’t work out that way and often, like with the Trashcan Pro, an expensive product ends up languishing in limbo-hell like that for years. It was more forgivable in the past when Apple was scrappy and An Alternative to something more mainstream, but now with enough money on hand to turn themselves into a bank its much less so, and feels more like a serial problem with neglect. TLDR: Apple’s gonna have to spend a lot of their own money on software and experiences/content/etc to make this headset work
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:37 |
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I would bet that Apple's going to keep the iPad 9 around for at least 3 more years, it'll awkwardly be the last device on Lightning. I bet it's got enough CPU grunt to run most of the new stuff they're going to shove into iPad OS this year!
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:19 |
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qirex posted:Is there though? The people who make this stuff certainly have ideas for research/education but VR already exists and hasn't found anything but a few very specific niches. It's one thing to say "wouldn't it be cool if you could look inside a person?" and another to actually build the application to do that. Floating 3d repair manual is another one but is anyone, even Boeing or Airbus going to spend a hundred million dollars making that happen? I think Apple is going to do the best job of anyone, but unless there's some groundbreaking I still tend to agree. There is still just too much friction to any VR enterprise experience. They're cool for a demo... and then they collect dust. I still think it's gonna be neat as hell.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:19 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:this is always Apple’s biggest problem- for every success that births a paradigm shift and new normal and a billion accessories and applications that take advantage of it there’s a spot where Apple went “and now it’s The Market’s turn to fill in this big hole that we’ve deliberately left” and it doesn’t work out that way and often, like with the Trashcan Pro, an expensive product ends up languishing in limbo-hell like that for years. It’s the same thing with gaming: there is literally zero reason now for such low game support on Macs, given the power of Apple Silicon, except that Apple doesn’t view it as enough of a priority to put the resources into supporting the porting efforts, etc., that would be required to do so. If they spent even a fraction of their annual dividend payments for areas such as this, Mac gaming would be in a much better place. Not that I think Steve Jobs would have actually done much better on this front, but I did appreciate his hatred of dividend payments.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:41 |
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Dropping the big money on a headset preorder today. I believe in Apple.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:41 |
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I’m going to predict new software!!!!
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:56 |
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Skeezy posted:Dropping the big money on a headset preorder today. I believe in Apple.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:56 |
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The first word out of the speakers mouth better be "headset". He can then introduce himself.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:57 |
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The headset is a Nintendo Labo cardboard cutout for an iPad 12.9inch pro.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 17:58 |
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SourKraut posted:It’s the same thing with gaming: there is literally zero reason now for such low game support on Macs, given the power of Apple Silicon, except that Apple doesn’t view it as enough of a priority to put the resources into supporting the porting efforts, etc., that would be required to do so. yeah basically this
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:00 |
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FlapYoJacks posted:I’m going to predict new software!!!! ChAtppleGPT You can ask Apple what Steve Jobs would do if he dated Grimes instead.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:01 |
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Corb3t posted:If this isn’t kosher, mods can delete this, but I’m thinking about buying a developer account so I can get access to the iOS beta tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:01 |
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I’ll never get used to Apple’s super-produced videos/shows. I preferred the PowerPoints with funny comments/pictures, practical reveals, etc.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:02 |
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Nice rainbow Tim
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:03 |
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The app store is 15 years old?!
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:03 |
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SourKraut posted:Nice rainbow Tim I don't think I've ever really listened to Timmy talk. His accent sounded familiar to me, and sure enough the dude is from Mobile AL.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:04 |
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Rageaholic posted:The app store is 15 years old?! Yeah, that made me pause, and feel old.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:04 |
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Are they just showing a video of Tim talking at Apple Park to people at Apple Park. Is he just like sitting there watching himself?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:04 |
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dammit don't talk about the Mac I have a meeting at 2pmEDT drat you Tim
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:04 |
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OldSenileGuy posted:dammit don't talk about the Mac ahahahaha yessss Big Air
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Why are they talking about the Mac? Are they talking about how you can plug the headset into it?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Americans love things bigger! BIGGER!
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Based on that outfit, Kate lives in Boulder and drives a subaru.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Bigger Air
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:05 |
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Remember when Apple didn’t release new hardware at WWDC for a while?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:06 |
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Hmmm. My Surface sucks. Might have to check out a Mac for my next laptop.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:07 |
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The new Air is the best 15" laptop? They are aware that they make a 15" MacBook Pro, right? Big innovation on Apple Silicon on a slightly larger display though.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:07 |
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smackfu posted:Remember when Apple didn’t release new hardware at WWDC for a while? Because Intel is poo poo lol
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:07 |
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12x faster than the Intel Air. Of course, they haven’t updated it since I was born, so that’s a low bar to clear.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:07 |
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Three Olives posted:The new Air is the best 15" laptop? They are aware that they make a 15" MacBook Pro, right? lmao no they don’t
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:08 |
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 07:49 |
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This should have been “it’s the same Air you love, now with a 15” display. back to you, tim”
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 18:08 |