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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
tbh i think this should be regarded as a devkit and the intended users are like enterprise customers and industry... it's pretty make-fun-able as a consumer device but until another couple generations have passed i don't think that'll be a good use case

i did not watch the presentation, however

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olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

dr_rat posted:

Look if this all somehow crazily leads to apple getting everyone a 10 hour or less work week I'll never say a drat thing against them again.

only revolution will accomplish that

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

olives black posted:

only revolution will accomplish that

The revolution will be Apple TV+'ed :devil:

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnE2VW7zWtI

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




this thing is not even out till next year and already it has as many quality games on offer as gamepass, how are people already writing it off as a flop?

Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jun 6, 2023

Gorgeous Zan
Apr 13, 2007

New Haven Yacht Club

Bad Purchase posted:

pretty expensive for a j/o machine, but if that’s your hobby maybe it’s worth it

Yeah well, I still jerk off manually

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

dr_rat posted:

Look if this all somehow crazily leads to apple getting everyone a 10 hour or less work week I'll never say a drat thing against them again.

The dystopian future no one was expecting, your work schedules defined by how quickly your AR set recharges.

Lol if you plug it in it lasts all day* allowing you to work continuously.

*AC adapter $99.99

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
The goggles are $3500

The module that blocks the sound of people laughing at you is $ 10,000

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Lol if you plug it in it lasts all day* allowing you to work continuously.

*AC adapter $99.99

lol
no

a power brick for that thing is gonna be at least $200 with the price point, plus $50 for the point-to-point extension cable. Guaranteed it uses proprietary power connections.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 18 days!)

they need to get these down to the size of geordi's visor first

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
they won't have a chance of hooking me until they invent smell-o-vision

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog
They'll spend millions and have the software engineers bend over backwards to make sure the device can't be used for porn, ensuring it dies out within 2 years

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

ChickenHeart posted:

They'll spend millions and have the software engineers bend over backwards to make sure the device can't be used for porn, ensuring it dies out within 2 years

my iPhone browses porn just fine :confused:

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


MrQwerty posted:

Guaranteed it uses proprietary power connections.

The reviews say the cord is a weird plug-and-turn deal so this is right. Gonna guess it doesn't play so nice with non-Apple hardware too, but perhaps this time Apple will recognize the value of not splitting their potential userbase.

they will absolutely make it hard as possible to use outside their ecosystem

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Atoramos posted:

The reviews say the cord is a weird plug-and-turn deal so this is right. Gonna guess it doesn't play so nice with non-Apple hardware too, but perhaps this time Apple will recognize the value of not splitting their potential userbase.

they will absolutely make it hard as possible to use outside their ecosystem

Lol you will NOT be able to use this without an iPhone. I’ll be surprised if it has any gaming potential outside of approved apps from the iStore; there is no way in hell it supports plug and play VR gaming on PC.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

honestly, i might finally try fruit ninjaj now

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

Atoramos posted:

The reviews say the cord is a weird plug-and-turn deal so this is right. Gonna guess it doesn't play so nice with non-Apple hardware too, but perhaps this time Apple will recognize the value of not splitting their potential userbase.

they will absolutely make it hard as possible to use outside their ecosystem

$3500 is a dead giveaway on specially manufactured parts

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
looking forward to watching the news report about some idiot wearing this while driving in their autopiloted tesla directly into a cement truck at high speed

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Chinatown posted:

looking forward to watching the news report about some idiot wearing this while driving in their autopiloted tesla directly into a cement truck at high speed

lol same

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

ChickenHeart posted:

They'll spend millions and have the software engineers bend over backwards to make sure the device can't be used for porn, ensuring it dies out within 2 years

No way. Nothing will stop rear end Hunters 5 from floating elegantly above a misty Scottish loch. The future is now.

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

Okay somebody edit this so as she gets close to the right, $3499 appears in the blank space, she moves back and forth real quick to shake her head no, then starts rotating back to the left.

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror
hmm yes this apple product is probably going to fail because it's too expensive. weird how apple suddenly decided to abandon the low-end segment of the market that all their success has derived from in the past.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Tiny Bug Child posted:

hmm yes this apple product is probably going to fail because it's too expensive. weird how apple suddenly decided to abandon the low-end segment of the market that all their success has derived from in the past.

nobody is saying this lol, it's gonna fail because it sucks rear end

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

dsf posted:

only $ 3499 lmao

STARTING AT

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Tiny Bug Child posted:

hmm yes this apple product is probably going to fail because it's too expensive. weird how apple suddenly decided to abandon the low-end segment of the market that all their success has derived from in the past.

It's gonna fail because it looks like something they made in anticipation of the metaverse, before the metaverse got aborted and memoryholed

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

steinrokkan posted:

It's gonna fail because it looks like something they made in anticipation of the metaverse, before the metaverse got aborted and memoryholed

If only they hadn’t forgotten the legs :(

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Peggy Edson posted:

nobody is saying this lol, it's gonna fail because it sucks rear end

i'll admit i have privately thought this about every new product they've made since and including the ipad because i personally have no use for them, but they've all been enormous successes that have made them a shitload of money anyway, so at this point i have to suspect the trillion dollar company that specializes in design and product experience may have a better handle on what people want than me and a bunch of other out of touch computer nerds

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i'll admit i have privately thought this about every new product they've made since and including the ipad because i personally have no use for them, but they've all been enormous successes that have made them a shitload of money anyway, so at this point i have to suspect the trillion dollar company that specializes in design and product experience may have a better handle on what people want than me and a bunch of other out of touch computer nerds

Same. I thought the Ipad sounded stupid as hell and thought it was going to be a massive flop, but um yeah obviously I was completely wrong on that one. This seems like an even bigger chance, just because it has been tried before -mostly like other glasses stuff wasn't exactly the same- but as stupid as it seems I would never completely rule apple somehow making it work. The 2hr battery, limited uses, and looking like an idiot wearing it makes it hard to see how, but yeah maybe in a few generations they'll have it figured out :shrug:

One thing to actually give it a few office applications they probably need to get right to you know make it more useful than you know just using a laptop, is figuring out a way to get 3d models tracked to real world spaces, as than a whole bunch of architecture planning stuff could be displayed in a way more function than just being shown on a laptop screen. Until you get stuff like that working than yeah I don't see how it isn't just an expensive toy.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
ipad doesn't gently caress up ur hair

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

kntfkr posted:

ipad doesn't gently caress up ur hair

Someones never seen a person after they've been smacked across the back of the head with a tablet.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
That goes beyond the SOP DR Rat.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
It’s cool that there’s no hand held controllers needed but without haptic feedback how am I gonna know that I pushed a tile, deleted an email, or hefted a pig’s huge balls?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

kntfkr posted:

That goes beyond the SOP DR Rat.

Hey as soon as they made it that shape they knew that's what people were gonna use it for SOP be damned.

This is on them.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

steinrokkan posted:

It's gonna fail because it looks like something they made in anticipation of the metaverse, before the metaverse got aborted and memoryholed

i think the price tag indicates that people like you and me are not the target market for this, tbh

if it's something you can expense to your company - now we're talking

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Mozi posted:

i think the price tag indicates that people like you and me are not the target market for this, tbh

if it's something you can expense to your company - now we're talking

That's what I'm getting at, if you were one of the people who bet on VR / ar being the future of remote work etc, etc, your vision unceremoniously died alongside the dream of selling the expensive new infrastructure required to make it a reality when Facebook pulled the plug on it for the foreseeable future and the whole independent crypto / nft metaspace imploded.

So now you have a product with no useful applications for the coming years, in which it's going to become obsolete even if the purpose for which you built it eventually gets resurrected.

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

steinrokkan posted:

That's what I'm getting at, if you were one of the people who bet on VR / ar being the future of remote work etc, etc, your vision unceremoniously died alongside the dream of selling the expensive new infrastructure required to make it a reality when Facebook pulled the plug on it for the foreseeable future and the whole independent crypto / nft metaspace imploded.

what? this is the complete opposite of the way apple operates. with everything they've ever done they're all about owning the entire value chain for the product. they made an mp3 player so they made an online music store to sell you music for it. they made a phone that lets you play games on the toilet so they made an online toilet game store to go with it. this thing was in development for years before facebook revealed their bad second life clone and i'd be shocked if they even considered supporting it. apple would never, ever, ever make a device that existed merely to access a competitor's service

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

steinrokkan posted:

That's what I'm getting at, if you were one of the people who bet on VR / ar being the future of remote work etc, etc, your vision unceremoniously died alongside the dream of selling the expensive new infrastructure required to make it a reality when Facebook pulled the plug on it for the foreseeable future and the whole independent crypto / nft metaspace imploded.

So now you have a product with no useful applications for the coming years, in which it's going to become obsolete even if the purpose for which you built it eventually gets resurrected.

i was imagining less 'remote work' and things like, if i'm an aircraft mechanic, i can wear this visor and see all my checklists and it'll highlight anything that's wrong and it double-checks i did everything, etc

Tijuana-A-Go-Go
Aug 2, 2019

Doggles Aficionado


Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Crapple

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kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

Smugworth posted:

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This.

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