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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




euphronius posted:

Google wasn’t even good in terms of accuracy it was easy to use, looked nice and had no or minor ads (lol)

That's some revisionism, Google obliterated all the other search engines when came out in terms of useful results. It wasn't the UI that gave it near 100% market share overnight. It was genuinely revolutionary.

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Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


AARD VARKMAN posted:

so the content mills (little known brands like Better Home & Garden and Popular Science) overnight started mentioning they'd tested 67 air purifiers hands on at their "labs" but then they just list the same copy paste list of lovely air purifiers they get the most affiliate money for.

Upon testing by a lab that actually exists, 64 of those have the same exact internal components and the remaining three are white noise machines with no moving parts.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Mulaney Power Move posted:

It's not just Google. Go to any porn hub site and try a search for "Big Booty Latina Gets Chased by a Lesbian-Loving T-Rex on a Hoverboard and then hosed" and you'll just get a bunch of MILF and not stepson porn, smh

ok hold on? im not going to take your word for it

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



euphronius posted:

Google wasn’t even good in terms of accuracy it was easy to use, looked nice and had no or minor ads (lol)

The past 20 years is an excellent example of capitalism killing a public good

Google was amazing for accuracy compared to everyone else.

When someone passed me the link to http://alpha.google.stanford.edu it was like magic. Suddenly I could actually find things and not use paid for results and people gaming the algorithm to have their useless, ad-filled site come out on top.

And in the decades since then, google has become what they fought against: altavista.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Ok fair enough

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I wish we would return to webpage directories

Fulltext searching was a mistake

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
There's a tweet about how Musk would end up doing the same thing Twitter's old board was doing because their goal was to make money. Thing is, that doesn't just apply to him and his bigoted ramblings, it applies to everything. Imgur became poo poo because of money. Youtube sold and became poo poo because of money. Google search became poo poo because of money.

So long as the stock market exists, enshittification will go on. Speculation and consolidation of raw power over people are the two root drivers that push things farther along, and I suppose you could even call the former an aspect of the latter


VVV: exactly, we're all clowns, so focus on being positive and helping people in the real world. Shitposting is a release not a rage

Sentient Data fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Apr 16, 2024

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Improving bad things requires the cooperation of people who benefit from things being bad. Seems like a solid system.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

euphronius posted:

Google wasn’t even good in terms of accuracy it was easy to use, looked nice and had no or minor ads (lol)

The past 20 years is an excellent example of capitalism killing a public good

many such cases!

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

steinrokkan posted:

I wish we would return to webpage directories

Fulltext searching was a mistake

I got a physical book website directory as a Christmas gift in the late 90s lol.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Outrail posted:

Improving bad things requires the cooperation of people who benefit from things being bad. Seems like a solid system.

Congratulations on uncovering the central truth behind every aspect of human history.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


is pepsi ok posted:

I got a physical book website directory as a Christmas gift in the late 90s lol.

Was it this one? Most of the URLs were broken by the time it hit store shelves.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

There are too many bad product reviewers that flood google's search engines.
And people pay to have their bad products review well, so the same thing keep popping up.
The reviews are so bad that it doesn't even seem like a person touched the product.

The good product reviewers get squeezed out because it is less profitable to make written reviews.

Yeah product research is absolute hell now because it’s affiliate links plus the reviews are just “some Amazon reviewers complained of a faulty hinge mechanism”

I guess Joe Public’s dad thinks it’s a swell summary, and those types sure as hell outnumber me, but it’s awful.

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

wash bucket posted:

I think we're gonna have to destroy ad revenue as a concept.

fundamental, universal, complete and total eradication of the very idea of advertisement would be one of my genie wishes, drat the monkeys paw unforeseen consequences i just want to be pure

sometimes i dream of joining a roving mad max gang armed with high powered modified paintball guns and rampaging across the land defacing every billboard, every worthless loving attention hijacker that blights the world. or the blackhat equivalent for cyberspace. hack the planet!

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

dreezy posted:

sometimes i dream of joining a roving mad max gang armed with high powered modified paintball guns and rampaging across the land defacing every billboard, every worthless loving attention hijacker that blights the world

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
I’d like to be able to search for clothing I want to buy without garbage dropshippers, google. And there’s really no way to circumvent it, like I want to do a capitalism but Christ, not with SHEIN, temu or the like.

Etsy is a loving shitshow as well. I’m trying to buy within the EU and lol i guess North Carolina is now in Europe?????

Searching on other major store sites it’s just so many loving pop ups again? What have they done to us?? How did we regress??

I just want a crop top with a witty quip, I ask of so little, much like the coverage of the shirt I want to buy.

E: sometimes the algorithmic void spits out a funny one.

teen witch fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Apr 16, 2024

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Subscriptions are the worst invention of all time. Then you combine a subscription with an app for water making it all so much worse. Let people have cool water at stations just to be nice, why the profit extraction all the time?

https://twitter.com/Shitty_Future/status/1779991434864570763?t=gPuiQ15nmuJO3Zxpl4w9Gg&s=19

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Looking for poo poo on amazon sucks. Nearly half of some searches on first pages are sponsored products.

Does anyone know of a working FF extension that removes that poo poo? Seriously. Go check it out. It's worse than it's ever been.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

It’s time to let Amazon go. It’s knock-off poo poo all the way down.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Subscriptions are the worst invention of all time. Then you combine a subscription with an app for water making it all so much worse. Let people have cool water at stations just to be nice, why the profit extraction all the time?

https://twitter.com/Shitty_Future/status/1779991434864570763?t=gPuiQ15nmuJO3Zxpl4w9Gg&s=19

This is fake? Or the site doesn't exist anymore at least.

edit: it was a 30,000 kickstarter that made 8 machines in 2018 and instantly folded after getting made fun of on X the Everything App.

Salt Fish fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 16, 2024

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I ordered jeans on Amazon a couple of times and they all developed holes around the back pockets within like a month, right where my rear end is. Then I went to the store and got the same type/size and they were perfectly fine. Amazon sold me fake Levi's :mad:

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I do, in fact, loving hate subscription services.

MyFitnessPal, which I used for like 10 loving years, used to have a barcode scanner to enter food into your tracking diary. Now it's behind a paywall.

It's 80 loving dollars a year. That's the discount you get unless you want to pay monthly.

Ah, while typing this it seems to have gotten much worse than I thought. I just logged in and this is my main page.




FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK YYYOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Pennywise the Frown posted:

I do, in fact, loving hate subscription services.

MyFitnessPal, which I used for like 10 loving years, used to have a barcode scanner to enter food into your tracking diary. Now it's behind a paywall.

It's 80 loving dollars a year. That's the discount you get unless you want to pay monthly.

Ah, while typing this it seems to have gotten much worse than I thought. I just logged in and this is my main page.




FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK YYYOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

jesus christ that's grim

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


I switched to Lose It. They still hassle you for subscriptions, but at least macro nutrients aren't behind a paywall.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Pennywise the Frown posted:

I do, in fact, loving hate subscription services.

MyFitnessPal,

I quit MFP a few years ago and switched to Cronometer. It also hides things behind pay walls, but not the scan barcode feature.
My only complaint is that I cannot add multiple items in one go.
In conclusion, pay walls are bad and dumb

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Pennywise the Frown posted:

I do, in fact, loving hate subscription services.

MyFitnessPal, which I used for like 10 loving years, used to have a barcode scanner to enter food into your tracking diary. Now it's behind a paywall.

jfc. I used that a few years back to great effect. They made money off little add bars and poo poo, while annoying, didn't impact the usability of the app.

I noticed a weather app I use had goofy ads on the radar screen, but if you paid $10 a year for premium they'd remove the ads and give you weather quality readings. Now they just added Premium+ and put future forecasts behind a second subscription paywall. Canceled the recurring payment and deleted the app. gently caress youuuuuuuu.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

ive sort of accepted these days if you want quality stuff, you have to pay for it. a lot of the free app/program style stuff on phones/tablets/the internet are things of the past now. i use macrofactor, there's no free mode, its a paid app, but it has the quality and polish that youd expect for somethign youre paying for

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

wash bucket posted:

It’s time to let Amazon go. It’s knock-off poo poo all the way down.

It isn't though. I get it but the alternative means leaving the house, paying more, more effort or not getting what you want. gently caress that. You can't make me. I was even at CVS to get medicine had some sniffs of the deodorant and was like "eh this is like 4 bucks cheaper on Amazon" (it was actually like 2 bucks cheaper. I don't want to just order a stick of deodorant so it's sitting in my cart until I have other things to order. My drug of choice is Amazon and I refuse to give it up.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Apr 16, 2024

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Squiggle posted:

I switched to Lose It. They still hassle you for subscriptions, but at least macro nutrients aren't behind a paywall.

I asked a week or so ago in the YLLS weight loss thread and settled on Cronometer atm. It has a barcode scanner. It's $50 a year for their premium but again, gently caress you for a subscription service for an app.

I'll give you up to $20 if your app is really good. I think I've only ever bought one app in my entire life. Daily Checklist by Blue Logo. It's mostly free but years ago I got so much productivity out of it that I wanted to support the developer who actually answered my emails. I'm guessing it was like $5.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Squiggle posted:

I switched to Lose It. They still hassle you for subscriptions, but at least macro nutrients aren't behind a paywall.

for now

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
The one thing I really don't get about Amazon is okay, you're going to put your recommended products as the first options in search results. But why do the number of search results change if I change the sort order?!

Search t-shirt, get 5000 results. Change sorting from default to anything else, now there are 487 results. WTF?!

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Duck and Cover posted:

It isn't though. I get it but the alternative means leaving the house.

It's not even just that. I was looking for a Software Defined Radio online last night and it's not like I can go to a radio shack and pick something like that up. It doesn't exist in physical stores. Their store is on Amazon or the plethora of Chinese resellers which who knows how long the product would take to get to me. I ordered the SDR on Amazon at about 2:30am today and it should be here in a couple of hours.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

The one thing I really don't get about Amazon is okay, you're going to put your recommended products as the first options in search results. But why do the number of search results change if I change the sort order?!

Search t-shirt, get 5000 results. Change sorting from default to anything else, now there are 487 results. WTF?!

Porn tubes do this, too! I want to watch a video of a woman stretching her butthold over a doorknob. 50,000 results. Now sort by length. 800 videos. WHY?

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.



:hmmyes:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Mulaney Power Move posted:

I ordered jeans on Amazon a couple of times and they all developed holes around the back pockets within like a month, right where my rear end is. Then I went to the store and got the same type/size and they were perfectly fine. Amazon sold me fake Levi's :mad:

Possibly, but also Levi's allegedly makes different quality tiers of products for different retailers.

kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

credburn posted:

Now sort by length.

Of the doorknob or the butthole?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Mulaney Power Move posted:

I ordered jeans on Amazon a couple of times and they all developed holes around the back pockets within like a month, right where my rear end is. Then I went to the store and got the same type/size and they were perfectly fine. Amazon sold me fake Levi's :mad:

These days companies make different grades of stuff for different markets. Levi's could be selling you disposable tissue paper pants on Amazon and reasonable stuff in hard copy stores or at more upscale websites. They will probably look identical.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Electronics suppliers started doing this years ago for Products destined for Walmart. I think they may have even made even-cheaper-special-bullshit models for Black Friday

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Pepper Crab
Mar 2, 2013



Bloody Hedgehog posted:

The one thing I really don't get about Amazon is okay, you're going to put your recommended products as the first options in search results. But why do the number of search results change if I change the sort order?!

Search t-shirt, get 5000 results. Change sorting from default to anything else, now there are 487 results. WTF?!

This one kind of makes sense to me - assuming the default behavior is to sort based on their idea of "relevancy," they're happy to just continue to show you products that may be less and less relevant to your search as you go from page to page, but if you want to sort based on anything else, it has to apply some sort of relevancy qualifier to get a concrete set of items to sort.

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