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What sort of load outs is everyone running with? I'm like 20% through Final Fantasy Mode and going with: Odin- Rift Slip and Dancing Blade Shiva- Diamond Dust and Gigaflare Phoenix- Lightning Rod and Judgement Bolt I can usually do two full Zantetsukens in a stagger and get, like, ~300k damage off, but I feel like I can get more. I guess switching Phoenix to Bahamut for Wings of Light could do more, but I really don't like how it feels to use Megaflare.
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Some guy on reddit did this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GVMdUBMYCn7kGWNkEku68uOWvAkDAOj4OADll1zVJcI/htmlview Will o Wykes is super good in Ultimaniac because it lets you tank hits mid combo. RiftSlip, Gigaflare and Dancing Steel are too good for damage so they are always in my loadout. Rook's Gambit is fun if you reduce the CD to like 4-5 with accessories. Heatwave is excellent against bosses. WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Aug 5, 2023 10:36
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fridge corn posted:Also I don't think the book being attributed to Joshua Rosfield is any indication whatsoever that anyone in particular survived, only that the name 'Joshua Rosfield' has endured.
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Aug 5, 2023 12:01
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Weird they bother to show any name, given how little it matters!
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Aug 5, 2023 12:58
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Lol it seems as tho perhaps the name has percolated through time as mythical/quasi-historical legend a la king arthur or gilgamesh. People still debate who Shakespeare even was. The book is regarded as a fairy tale by the mother. It is a very old story at the time of that final scene. There's no indication that the names Clive or Joshua are even mentioned in the book, only "ifrit" and the "older brother". It just makes so much more sense and is such a shorter logical leap to make that the author of the book is ultimately unknown but that the name Joshua Rosfield has been associated with it for so long and has been attributed to the work along the way, given the countless examples of similar things in our own history But that's clearly not fun at all for you so just keep writing that fanfiction by all means
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Aug 5, 2023 13:11
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I don't at all agree that it doesn't matter if the main characters survived, but I do very much agree with this:fridge corn posted:Also I don't think the book being attributed to Joshua Rosfield is any indication whatsoever that anyone in particular survived, only that the name 'Joshua Rosfield' has endured. In conclusion, fridge corn is a land of contrasts
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Aug 5, 2023 13:48
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The whole idea that Joshua/Clive would self insert themselves in their book feels completely out of character
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Aug 5, 2023 14:26
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Is it a self insert if you’re writing an autobiography?
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Aug 5, 2023 14:37
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hatty posted:Is it a self insert if you’re writing an autobiography? Probably not but its very funny to me that he would write a biography that clearly became very popular because even common folk have well preserved copies of it but it's still considered fiction.
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fridge corn posted:Lol it seems as tho perhaps the name has percolated through time as mythical/quasi-historical legend a la king arthur or gilgamesh. People still debate who Shakespeare even was. The book is regarded as a fairy tale by the mother. It is a very old story at the time of that final scene. There's no indication that the names Clive or Joshua are even mentioned in the book, only "ifrit" and the "older brother". Basically, Joshua does live on, but in name only.
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But it's very strange that the book would be the chronicle of a person called Joshua Rosfield, and then be written by an author called Joshua Rosfield. Presumably there was a preface that this author just needs to clarify that they're not the totally cool dude in this book. I get different interpretations of the ending. But the last scenes are deliberately ambiguous and confusing, and then after a moment of pause we are presented with a concrete fact. You may not like it but that is an intentional moment to snap the ambiguity. I still think it's weird but it is what it is. It seems completely disconnected speculation to start saying "The contents of the book have nothing to do with what we have witnessed in this story". My first instinct was that it was a descendent of the Rosfields who was also called Joshua so I'm not above this myself. On rewatching the ending and with a little time it seems that we've all worked ourselves into strange corners. They literally put Joshua's name right at the end, I think we should believe what they told us. keithy george fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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fridge corn posted:Lol of course not. The game seemed to spend an awful lot of time and dialogue on something that doesn't matter.
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rkd_ posted:You don't think it matters people know who survives at the end of a story? I mean no. We have proof of that with FF7
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rkd_ posted:The game seemed to spend an awful lot of time and dialogue on something that doesn't matter. What are you talking about?
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keithy george posted:But it's very strange that the book would be the chronicle of a person called Joshua Rosfield, and then be written by an author called Joshua Rosfield. Presumably there was a preface that this author just needs to clarify that they're not the totally cool dude in this book. Sure but Joshua's not the main character of the story. His brother is. As cool as some of the things Joshua does in the story are, they pale in comparison to the poo poo Clive pulls off. Like if we assume the book is an accurate depiction of what we see while we play the game (which there's exactly zero evidence for or against, but just for the sake of argument), I don't think anyone would see the in-universe Final Fantasy as the "chronicle of a person called Joshua Rosfield." They'd see it as the chronicle of Cid the Outlaw.
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When I got to that part of the ending, at that point I considered both Joshua and Clive dead. So when I saw the book, my first assumption was that Joshua was chronicling his and Cid's adventures, and someone (Jote? Jill? Vivian?) must've finished it up. Didn't really think about how no one else would know what happened specifically, but they know that Clive and Joshua won and destroyed magic, so an ending could build off of that.
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Harrow posted:Sure but Joshua's not the main character of the story. His brother is. As cool as some of the things Joshua does in the story are, they pale in comparison to the poo poo Clive pulls off. Like if we assume the book is an accurate depiction of what we see while we play the game (which there's exactly zero evidence for or against, but just for the sake of argument), I don't think anyone would see the in-universe Final Fantasy as the "chronicle of a person called Joshua Rosfield." They'd see it as the chronicle of Cid the Outlaw. keithy george fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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The book at the end is fictional and is to show it actually is just a silly fantasy story after all, and those are for kids. You nerds! Now more importantly, why did Cid have Clive stripped naked after he primed in the Benedikta fight? Putting him in the dungeon was so he wouldn’t harm himself, sure. But what good does him being naked do?
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Probably so that he doesn't try to strangle himself or off himself in some other way in his own clothes? That and the cheesecake factor.
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he want to see he butt
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Bugblatter posted:The book at the end is fictional and is to show it actually is just a silly fantasy story after all, and those are for kids. You nerds! You ask why, I ask why not
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Mechafunkzilla posted:You ask why, I ask why not Hi Cid
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If they did an XVI-2 or a post story DLC, I'd like to see it star Mid. In place of Eikons, she could have Edgar-style tools she switches between: Chainsaw, Air Anchor, Bio-Blaster, etc. I think it'd also be cool if it's set on The Continent (having taken the Enterprise there with Jill and Clive (who is alive but crippled now IMHO.))
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gently caress I just realised why Titan Lost is called Devil Gundam in Japanese, it's a reference to the Devil Gundam from G Gundam. God bless ye, Yoship and your Gundam love.
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Ibblebibble posted:gently caress I just realised why Titan Lost is called Devil Gundam in Japanese, it's a reference to the Devil Gundam from G Gundam. God bless ye, Yoship and your Gundam love. is it really called that
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Flavahbeast posted:is it really called that It really is yeah, it rules lol
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I thought Titan Lost was called Devil Titan in Japanese, not literally Gundam.
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Oh whoops, I just noticed my typo. It's Devil Titan yeah. I will leave my typo up in shame.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Spoiler alert: This remained true to the end. lol 
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This remained true to the end. FF16 and Metal Gear Rising have so much in common its great. https://youtu.be/ErRAM2wuMJg
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he looks like dracula pulling the cape over his body in your screenshot
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Was there any follow up to that Vivian quest after you find the book. Dude was like ‘I’ll be back just you wait’ and then nothing.
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He didn't realise this was the final act.
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That was my last sidequest IIRC so I was all "yeah see you too buddy".
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Also there was that dude at the end of the infamous quest with the rich dude and his son and their wolf. At the end that dude is like ‘maybe we will meet again’ all knowingly. I was hoping me and him were going to slit some throats in the future but nope.
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So, catching up with the thread, but I’m kinda surprised people are saying the potential for Clive’s death would be against the themes of the game and the character. I’m not sure what I think about what ended up happening and could accept it either way, but just because people tell a character to do something doesn’t mean they have to do it or it’s bad writing. Of course it’s perfectly reasonable for Joshua and Jill to tell Clive that he has to survive what happens no matter what, they love him and he is the most important person in the world to them. But he isn’t wrong, especially in the context of the story, and there is no way in the loving world that if sacrificing himself meant saving everyone he loved that he wouldn’t do it in a heartbeat, I don’t care what he was told. Especially if it only meant short term survival for himself, as he would die in a blighted world as well. One of the major themes of the game is people with power letting the world fall to ruin for their own short term benefit, and people in general refusing any level of sacrifice for the good of others, and Clive using his power to save the world at the supreme cost to himself is absolutely fitting as the ultimate refutation of that. I’d also accept it if he crawled his way back though, as living through suffering is also a theme and losing Joshua (I don’t think both lived) and his hand would also be a hell of a sacrifice for the world’s survival. ***edit*** sorry for the double post, was catching up on previous pages and and didn’t realize I had made the last post. ParliamentOfDogs fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Aug 12, 2023 |
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Beat it, anyway for me to find out how long I took on PS5? Anyway, good spectacle of an ending and fun to watch, even if the actual battle was like playing a tutorial at the beginning of the game. You can't really lose. I think I got hit by every single attack of the laser bullet hell sequences. The combat got really dull, where in the last 30% of the game, I just really stopped caring or trying to dodge, other than the super telegraphed stuff coming 5secs away, because it doesn't matter. And most hunts/bosses ended up just winning by spamming the big moves on cooldown. Can't believe Medicine Girl didn't come to save Clive at the beach. In the end, I think Ultima was fine. They could have done more, but I think I was satisfied, especially the end when he lay dying. lol @ the final fantasy facepunch
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GateOfD posted:Beat it, anyway for me to find out how long I took on PS5? Go to the PS5 home screen and your total time should be center-right.
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I'm just sad Ultima turned into a pretty boy for his final phase. I really liked his hosed up look. Also I wish the first phase was an actual fight and not just a few QTEs.
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JRPG protags nowadays are wimps. Back in my day your party would casually kick the poo poo out of a god and his armies and all go home in time for the credits. Now it’s all “oh killing a god, so hard, that took so much out of me, I need a forever nap”. Toughen up, losers.
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