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Just beat the game. What a poo poo ending. I kept waiting for it to continue but it never did. I enjoyed the game overall but I think that people everywhere calling it the best Final Fantasy ever is bizarre. Everyone has their own opinion, obviously, but that's just an odd take to me. Have people never played VI? VII (both original and remake)? IV? Those all seem like obviously better games. I'd personally even rate VIII and X higher than XVI but I'm almost certainly in the minority on that. I've replayed all of those games several times but I think I'm good on XVI. I don't see myself ever playing it again but maybe I will at some point decades down the road. Final Fantasy XVI: good to great but not excellent. Far from GOTY contention. I have spoken. 
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I think right now 16 sits in my top 5 FF games.
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Aug 18, 2023 04:16
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It’s firmly in the “great, but not quite god-tier” category for me, sitting alongside its buddies VI, IX, and X.
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Aug 18, 2023 04:28
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What FF16 really needed was a fishing mini game.
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Aug 18, 2023 05:46
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WaltherFeng posted:What FF16 really needed was a fishing mini game. Yup
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Aug 18, 2023 05:56
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What it needed was to not have primogenesis and better,more fun side content. Maybe a better ending. What's it with Final Fantasies getting ruined by Genesis
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Aug 18, 2023 06:04
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They're ruined by Mega Drive outside of North America.
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Aug 18, 2023 12:41
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I don't think I've seen anyone declare it to be the best FF game? A lot of people have said it's the worst though. For me it's comfortably the best since the series moved away from turn based combat (not counting 7R or MMOs). Probably in my top four or five overall but I don't have much nostalgia for 1-6.
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Aug 18, 2023 12:47
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I want Square do a character action game with FF16 inspired combat. Just nonstop combat and boss fights.
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Aug 18, 2023 13:16
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FF16 is definitely the best of the Modern Era of Final Fantasy (post-FF10)
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Aug 18, 2023 13:17
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If we’re talking that era, then for me it’s probably something like 14 > 16 > 12 > 15 > 13 > 11
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Aug 18, 2023 13:19
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WaltherFeng posted:I want Square do a character action game with FF16 inspired combat. Just nonstop combat and boss fights. Isn't this basically Stranger of Paradise?
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Ibblebibble posted:Isn't this basically Stranger of Paradise? Same genre yeah but not what I had in mind. SoP is designed like Nioh which borrows from Souls games, so there's a lot of RPG mechanics involved. SoP also has no vertical element in combat which is a big thing in games like Ninja Gaiden, DMC or Bayonetta.
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WaltherFeng posted:I want Square do a character action game with FF16 inspired combat. Just nonstop combat and boss fights. I think even if this game doesn't get a direct sequel that the basic combat engine has too much promise not to be reused for something like this
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Aug 19, 2023 07:36
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think even if this game doesn't get a direct sequel that the basic combat engine has too much promise not to be reused for something like this Does it?
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Aug 19, 2023 18:27
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Yes because it's super responsive, and there's so many cool ways to make use of the combo system. A lot of people won't even notice how different moves interact with each other because the base difficulty is so low, but that's a matter of adjusting values here and there and tweaking enemy AI. There's also the problem of ultimate moves. The combat suddenly flows a lot better if you don't use them because every move besides ultimates have some unique property that lets you chain them to other moves. Here's some things I would personally implement: - Enemies get a vulnerability debuff while they are comboed in midair - More aggressive enemies so you need to adjust between defence and offence - minibosses become vulnerable to launchers if you break their Will - Ultimates can only be used under certain conditions like spending Limit Break gauge WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 19, 2023 |
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Aug 19, 2023 19:07
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Zeruel posted:Clive may cry 1 month later but ...Devil May Clive.
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Personally I spent the whole game thinking you’d get a double jump power at some point. When I think “Blessing of the Phoenix” I think “aerial mobility”, not “flash step” I think if you added that, some new weapons, and some new enemy AI/capabilities you’d have a decent CAG on your hands
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CharlestonJew posted:Personally I spent the whole game thinking you’d get a double jump power at some point. When I think “Blessing of the Phoenix” I think “aerial mobility”, not “flash step” Garuda's Eikonic Feat pretty much gives you that against large enemies.
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Aug 22, 2023 20:31
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Rook's Gambit, Deadly Leap into Downthrust or Upheaval is pretty rad.
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You also get Enemy Step.
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https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1699756208247484852?t=_cNRFLshq3drArtf720WNQ&s=19 Well that answers one of the questions I had about the lore.
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It's funny that the Water Crystal is further away from water than any other crystal save Earth.
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Also funny that Drake's Tail isn't green like how wind element usually is in FF.
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McTimmy posted:It's funny that the Water Crystal is further away from water than any other crystal save Earth. Fire Crystal? Right in the water.
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WaltherFeng posted:I want Square do a character action game with FF16 inspired combat. Just nonstop combat and boss fights. ...soooo Devil May Cry 5? But like, with a chocobo?
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Bugblatter posted:...soooo Devil May Cry 5? But like, with a chocobo? As the playable character? gently caress yeah.
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Bugblatter posted:...soooo Devil May Cry 5? But like, with a chocobo? Yes But just to be clear I"m not the biggest fan of DMC5 because that game has problems like too many drat buttons.
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Am I the only one who thought that Barnabus was having VERY weird sex with Ultima? Given he was taking multiple forms in their naked scene together, albeit to mess with him, not just his mother just also nude versions of IIRC Benedikta and Kupka, I read him as kind of specifically Ultimasexual, not really minding what form they took. Also overall I liked only fighting Barny as a partial-Eikon, it kind of made him feel more dangerous, like he didn't HAVE to pull out the big guns and was preferring to get his hands dirty to the end. I also thought Benedikta's reaction to getting low on health, just bellowing "FUUUUCK!" was really relatable, it's the same kind of reaction that I have when I die fighting a tough boss in a hard action game.
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Barnabas and his family belonged to the ultima worshipping cult IIRC so yes.
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BioEnchanted posted:Am I the only one who thought that Barnabus was having VERY weird sex with Ultima? Given he was taking multiple forms in their naked scene together, albeit to mess with him, not just his mother just also nude versions of IIRC Benedikta and Kupka, I read him as kind of specifically Ultimasexual, not really minding what form they took. Ultima does a lot of really funny poo poo if you take a moment to think on his actions.
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Also I've only got three trophies left that aren't the platinum (which I don't count as it's just the one you get for getting the others): maxing out the abilities, which I'm gonna grind out on FF mode so that I'll have two playthroughs worth of points, beating FF mode which I'm currently midway through, approaching the most difficult boss (Liquid Flame, at least for me) and finally, doing the trials to get the final item for clive's room to get THAT trophy. I like that the bosses bookend too, the first boss that teaches you the clash mechanic ends with a layered 3-tier clash as you drive them into the ground with your sword, then the final boss has the same 3-tier clash for punching Ultima. Also fighting bosses in replay mode is fun as you are so overpowered you can kill them in one stagger as a single attack just deletes a third of the health bar.
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BioEnchanted posted:Am I the only one who thought that Barnabus was having VERY weird sex with Ultima? Given he was taking multiple forms in their naked scene together, albeit to mess with him, not just his mother just also nude versions of IIRC Benedikta and Kupka, I read him as kind of specifically Ultimasexual, not really minding what form they took. It's worth noting that Ultima didn't really have a physical body, so while he was loving with Barnabus he probably wasn't actually loving him.
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ImpAtom posted:It's worth noting that Ultima didn't really have a physical body, so while he was loving with Barnabus he probably wasn't actually loving him. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Oct 15, 2023 |
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ImpAtom posted:It's worth noting that Ultima didn't really have a physical body, so while he was loving with Barnabus he probably wasn't actually loving him. Then whose lap was Barnabas resting on? Some poor Akashic who somehow managed to feel intensely awkward despite being zombified?
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Darth Walrus posted:Then whose lap was Barnabas resting on? Some poor Akashic who somehow managed to feel intensely awkward despite being zombified? That or Barbabas was so into it he was just going along with the hallucination. Either is entirely valid for that crazy gently caress.
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Idk I know some people were down on Barnabas, but I actually really liked the progression of “oh wow this dude’s a badass” to “oh you’re actually just some insane weirdo with an Ultima kink”.
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HD DAD posted:Idk I know some people were down on Barnabas, but I actually really liked the progression of “oh wow this dude’s a badass” to “oh you’re actually just some insane weirdo with an Ultima kink”. Or possibly just a mommy kink that his god chooses to indulge.
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Hugo and Benedikta both knew Ultima existed because sometimes he goes to them and is like "please pretend to be me pretending to be you, Barnabus has developed a psychosexual connection with me and it's making things... weird..."
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"Look, truth be told, I was absolutely planning to try to save all of humanity at the end, but then I realized I'd have to spend an eternity with Barnabas calling me Mommydaddy and sorry but you all have to die for that."
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