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TK8325
Sep 22, 2014



i work NOCs so i sleep during the day and ive been thinking about getting a sleep mask.

pro light blocking tip: tinfoil over the windows.

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Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

I slept okay last night but now I’m gonna nap

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Toxic Mental posted:

I also really enjoy sleeping on my stomach with my arms up.

Wendigee posted:

It's the best😮‍💨

:yeah:

Too bad it’s awful for you! I’ve tried so many times to stop. Ultimately even if I fall asleep on my side, which is very rare, I will always move to my stomach. Maybe I’ll try some new pillows…again.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
I caught a nasty chest cold, which sucks, but that also means I get to add cough syrup to my Sleep Alchemy, and that's rad.

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

Sucrose posted:

I’ve been up for 37 hours straight and it doesn’t feel very good.

Update: I figured out how to sleep again soon after this.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Booze used to make me sleepy, now it makes my heart race. Weed makes me sleep hard but it isn't a good sleep. Melatonin makes me sleep hard as well but makes it hard to wake up.
Thing that keeps me up the most is on Sundays when I have to work in the morning and I'm stressing for no actual reason. I don't hate work or dread it either.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
Booze makes me pass out but it’s not a good sleep. A 5 mg edible will give me a good nights rest, any more than 5 mg fucks my dreams up too much and I’ll wake up.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

I am about to go to sleep soon. I will start by having a light snack of yogurt and water, then I will smoke weed and put on an episode of Cheers, followed by an episode of X-Files and then 30 minutes of reading the book Children of God. I will then attempt to sleep.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




the weed may be a mistake, there are only two known success stories among marijuana users: snoop and willie nelson

consider this, it’s all i ask

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

I hurt my rotator cuff and it remains untreated (lol American healthcare) so sleeping is bad news for me

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Bad Purchase posted:

the weed may be a mistake, there are only two known success stories among marijuana users: snoop and willie nelson

consider this, it’s all i ask

I love Willie Nelson

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Sleep masks are great and very helpful for getting into deep sleep quicker. Especially if you have random glowing lights throughout the house / room. I prefer complete darkness to stat restful sleeping longer


CPAP and a black mask are great. It's the only way I can sleep flat on my back which reduced my pains In shoulder and back.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."
I wake up frequently during the night, usually after dreaming. Is this a symptom of something? I used to fall asleep and maybe wake up once. Now I wake up 4-5 times every night.

I have been diagnosed with narcolepsy in my mid twenties, (I am 32) so I might have answered my own question. But I simply am not as tired as I was then, also I now get around 10 hrs of sleep a night which seems to do the trick, I haven't tried going off of 7-8 hrs of sleep for a while. Also I drink a lot of caffeine during the day.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Passive Aggreeable posted:

I wake up frequently during the night, usually after dreaming. Is this a symptom of something? I used to fall asleep and maybe wake up once. Now I wake up 4-5 times every night.

I have been diagnosed with narcolepsy in my mid twenties, (I am 32) so I might have answered my own question. But I simply am not as tired as I was then, also I now get around 10 hrs of sleep a night which seems to do the trick, I haven't tried going off of 7-8 hrs of sleep for a while. Also I drink a lot of caffeine during the day.


You probably have sleep apnea. Have you ever had this diagnosis?

I think you said you were currently in a mental hospital right? I wonder if there is any correlation behind your lack of sleep and your other inflictions.

4-5 times a night is gonna kill your sleep and you are probably not going into deep deep sleep if this is every night.


Interesting stuff. You should do a sleep test if it's possible.

Passive Aggreeable
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

You probably have sleep apnea. Have you ever had this diagnosis?

I think you said you were currently in a mental hospital right? I wonder if there is any correlation behind your lack of sleep and your other inflictions.

4-5 times a night is gonna kill your sleep and you are probably not going into deep deep sleep if this is every night.


Interesting stuff. You should do a sleep test if it's possible.

I am and I mentioned that I have fragmented sleep and a past diagnosis of narcolepsy to the psychiatrist when he came by for my certificate of examination, as I am about to see the judge in about a month. He referred me to a physician to refer me again to a neurologist about neuropathy-like symptoms (I suppose I might have conversion disorder) and to hopefully take another mri. I've had a lot of roommates and no one brought up sleep apnea, although one crazy guy who punched me in the head when I was asleep said I was crying out in my sleep.

The Grimace
Sep 18, 2005

Are you a BigMac of imbeciles!?
Takes me forever to fall asleep and then I end up oversleeping aaaall the time. It's rough.

parthenocarpy posted:

I've given sleep advice to people in TCC for a decade. Those people are typically dealing with a drug withdrawal that is causing the sleep issue. This is kind of a collection of advice and personal observations in no order.

1. ) Exercising to exhaustion is the best natural solution you should try first when having issues sleeping.
2. ) Complete 90% of your daily water intake three hours before bed to stop nighttime urination.
3. ) The first thing you do when you wake up is drink water which facilitates the previous step.
4. ) If your stomach is digesting a large amount of carbohydrates, you increase the tryptophan levels in your brain. The only reason I don't really recommend this is that you should always take in a lot of water when you eat, which means nighttime urination in my experience.
5. ) Benzodiazepines initiate sleep better than the drugs in the Ambien family.
6. ) Your body will be disturbed from sleep if you eat a lot of gassy food and have a low fiber intake. A poor diet in general alone will hurt sleep badly.
7. ) BCAA supplements help initiate sleep at nighttime when it is appropriate instead of when you consume them. Strongly recommended.
8. ) You can sleep better in an upright position like a long plane ride if you can sleep naturally on your back.
9. ) There is almost no circumstance where it is good to be sleeping on your stomach.
10. ) The more time you spend sleeping on your stomach or in a position where your face is pressed into a pillow, the more permanent wrinkles your face will have and the earlier you'll develop them.
11. ) Keep your bedtime consistent. The body does expects to initiate sleep at the same time every day even if you feel like you have energy to keep going.
12. ) Stress hurts sleep. A strong skillset of denial and compartmentalization will help you disregard stressors. You guessed it, this helps initiate sleep!

This is really good advice all around. Thanks

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

I've had severe sleep problems since 1987-ish (born 1981). No one cared until I turned 40, just told me to go to be earlier which just led to more time angrily waiting to sleep. Life has been loving garbage, although covid helped because I stopped working and was able to let my delayed sleep phase decide when I go to bed and wake up. But even then, joint pain from a hypermobiliry disorder wakes me up or keeps me up as it always had and I also had a severe anxiety disorder that kept me awake like it had until I went on a high SSRI dose this year after a mental breakdown. I just did a sleep study and I'm going to see someone about potential long-term effects from a childhood brain injury plus probable cervical instability and hopefully maybe someday I'll be able to sleep like a half-normal person. Cross fingers!

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
ขอให้โชคดี
Andrew Huberman's podcasts on sleep science have been helpful for me. That's where I discovered the magnesium glycinate + zinc + l-theanine combo that helps me a lot. L-theanine in particular really helps with anxiety during the day as well, and if you drink coffee try adding l-theanine in a 2:1 (theanine : caffeine) ratio to prevent jitters and caffeine crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aWYjSA1Jc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1TxQj9IsQ


Also, breathwork works wonders for me. The 4-7-8 count (inhale, hold, exhale) pattern before bed helps calm my overactive brain.

5436
Jul 11, 2003

by astral
What made a difference for me was changing my sleeping environment. I realized my mattress was pretty old and not providing the support I needed, and my pillow was... let's just say it had seen better days. So, I made the decision to invest in a better sleep setup.
I got my pillow from [url=]Pluto[/url]. I could really see the difference in how it contoured to my head and neck, providing just the right amount of support without sinking in too much.
As for the mattress, I invested in a Casper. I'd heard a ton of great things about them and decided it was worth a shot. I chose the Casper Original Foam mattress because of its supportive memory foam design that’s supposed to help with alignment and relieve pressure.
With these changes, it took a little time for my body to adjust, but gradually I started noticing positive changes in my sleep quality.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



I sleep really poorly.

I just want to say that if you are taking benzos like temazepam to sleep only take it for a short time because you will not be sleeping without it for a while after ceasing to take it.


I was a poly drug addict. This included benzos. I got clean in 2014. I have had a couple of slips, nothing really major.

After I got clean I started having really bad sleep patterns. Waking up multiple times a night from anxiety dreams that cause me to gasp as I wake up.

Even after a decade I still have really vivid using dreams sometimes that cause me to wakeup in the middle of the night and pace around my room until I can calm down.

I am a very anxious person and I wakeup easily. I live with an alcoholic. Enough said.

Pathenocarpy has it right though. Follow his method. If you snore loudly and wakeup a lot go see a sleep specialist if you can.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
My snores sound like a feral hog being spaghettified, and I stop breathing app. 50 times per hour when I'm asleep. Finally getting the Darth Vader apparatus after far too many years, but I wonder if the damage has been done.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

isaboo posted:

Andrew Huberman's podcasts on sleep science have been helpful for me. That's where I discovered the magnesium glycinate + zinc + l-theanine combo that helps me a lot. L-theanine in particular really helps with anxiety during the day as well, and if you drink coffee try adding l-theanine in a 2:1 (theanine : caffeine) ratio to prevent jitters and caffeine crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aWYjSA1Jc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1TxQj9IsQ


Also, breathwork works wonders for me. The 4-7-8 count (inhale, hold, exhale) pattern before bed helps calm my overactive brain.

gently caress Huberman

Here's a 3 hour video on how to be succinct and a 130 minute interview on why sleep is good. Yeah, I know sleep is good you overqualified rear end in a top hat. It's been raining. There's no sun to look at this morning. gently caress you. (Huberman, not you)

I get like 5-5.5 hours a night because I work two jobs and my wife has a full course load and a job and we got small kids and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

I snore loudly but I only wake up 3/4 times a night based on the snoring app I have (I listen to the recordings). I also don't sound like I'm choking or gasping for air.

I do however feel tired throughout the day. Except for a 1-2 hour period at the start I usually feel like I could go straight to sleep if I wasn't at work/ had other things to do. Sometimes if I'm overstimulated getting to sleep can be an issue but reading almost always helps. Getting up in the mornings is straight up Sisyphus struggle though.

So since I'm obese (243 pounds at 5'9") I'm thinking it might be the beetus instead causing the tiredness.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Been feeling extra sleepy this last week and napping during the day. Now slept only 5 hours this night, so I might be entering a vicious circle.

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

I had really terrible sleep patterns in college, like I imagine a lot of people did. Falling asleep anywhere from midnight to 5 am depending on the day, waking up at all different times, eating and drinking right before bed. I never felt rested and looking back I really think I messed up my health pretty badly for a while there.

Thankfully now I'm on a pretty solid schedule. For the most part I go to bed at roughly the same time and wake up about the same time during the week, I don't eat anything like an hour before bed, and I avoid caffeine as much as I can in the evenings. No real issues falling or staying asleep any more.

On the rare occasion I take a nap I always regret it. I wake up feeling like I travelled through time and space, I'm always hot, and I never feel like I actually gained anything from it.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I've had a hard time sleeping since childhood. The only time I was actually sleeping well was when I was working in ag in the summer and waking up at 430 to work, napping for an hour or two when I got home, and then going to bed for real at 10. It takes being in the sun all day and doing physical labor to shut my brain up.

Now I work a 9-5 and have to take melatonin and cannabis nightly or ill spend a few nights a week just staring at the ceiling

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Not one person has mentioned praying before bed.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

redshirt posted:

Not one person has mentioned praying before bed.

Been sayin this

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

CPAP is great. Get the heated tube. Your body will ask for more sleep and you'll feel so much better in the mornings.

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


I always sleep like poo poo so just assume I didn't sleep well any time I post.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
Don’t have a Philips CPAP unless you like lungs full of foam particles

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Smugworth posted:

Been sayin this

And they wonder why they can't sleep?!

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Don’t have a Philips CPAP unless you like lungs full of foam particles

TOTAL RECALL

AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

I sleep pretty good most nights, but I'd say at least twice a week I have a night where I take a long time to fall asleep and toss and turn half the night, or like last night, feel like I just dreamed too much, poo poo was going on all night and I wake up exhausted.

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

Quite a few years ago I took a sleep study to figure out my snoring/apnea. Turns out I had it in spades but the monitoring showed I was in normal range for interruptions when I slept on my side. I'm not overweight but they found one of my nasal passages is badly misshapen. They wanted to do surgery but I felt like that was last resort.

I tried a CPAP so I could sleep on my back etc but I'd wake up gasping for air every night. Returned it and got this pillow thingy that goes on your back and straps around your waist. After using it for a few weeks I was trained to sleep on my side and have slept way better.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I have anxiety/bad brain/an injury that keeps me up

I only snore if I'm blackout drunk, and then I'm actually asleep too

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
I got one of those memory foam mattresses a few years back and it's not only good for my lovely back but also for sleeping. I've always been a restless sleeper even as a kid so I toss and turn a lot. I also get up to piss a few times a night because I take drugs that make me piss a bit more frequently.

None the less I sleep way better than I did with my old mattress that I kept and just put underneath the memory foam one.

I hope I never get the sleep acknea it is.

dsf
Jul 1, 2004
newest cat figured out how to get my bedroom door open at 2 AM - will probably never be able to sleep for a full night again

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

parthenocarpy posted:

I've given sleep advice to people in TCC for a decade. Those people are typically dealing with a drug withdrawal that is causing the sleep issue. This is kind of a collection of advice and personal observations in no order.

1. ) Exercising to exhaustion is the best natural solution you should try first when having issues sleeping.
2. ) Complete 90% of your daily water intake three hours before bed to stop nighttime urination.
3. ) The first thing you do when you wake up is drink water which facilitates the previous step.
4. ) If your stomach is digesting a large amount of carbohydrates, you increase the tryptophan levels in your brain. The only reason I don't really recommend this is that you should always take in a lot of water when you eat, which means nighttime urination in my experience.
5. ) Benzodiazepines initiate sleep better than the drugs in the Ambien family.
6. ) Your body will be disturbed from sleep if you eat a lot of gassy food and have a low fiber intake. A poor diet in general alone will hurt sleep badly.
7. ) BCAA supplements help initiate sleep at nighttime when it is appropriate instead of when you consume them. Strongly recommended.
8. ) You can sleep better in an upright position like a long plane ride if you can sleep naturally on your back.
9. ) There is almost no circumstance where it is good to be sleeping on your stomach.
10. ) The more time you spend sleeping on your stomach or in a position where your face is pressed into a pillow, the more permanent wrinkles your face will have and the earlier you'll develop them.
11. ) Keep your bedtime consistent. The body does expects to initiate sleep at the same time every day even if you feel like you have energy to keep going.
12. ) Stress hurts sleep. A strong skillset of denial and compartmentalization will help you disregard stressors. You guessed it, this helps initiate sleep!

How do I train to sleep in a new position without being sleep deprived until my body accepts it as a valid way to sleep? I can't fall asleep in any way except on my stomach. I somehow shift to my side during sleep. But would be nice to learn to fall asleep on my back

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vaginite
Feb 8, 2006

I'm comin' for you, colonel.



If you're doing speedballs I recommend instead doing the stimulants in the morning and the downers in the evening. It's done wonders for my marriage.

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