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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021


Ben Nerevarine posted:

there’s nothing quite like that first run through a newly released Bethesda game, dodging bugs and broken saves like a warrior monk

yeah, which is weird because fallout 4 launched relatively bug free.

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

silentsnack posted:

yeah fallout2 came out several years before the whole ["your choices *matter*"] idiom came about and writers started showing the downstream consequences of player decisions reflected in-game. F2 the most resolution you get for quests is a different line of dialogue like "well I guess my turd farm is safe from raiders for now" and then you leave and never have any reason to return to that area afterward, so why bother updating NPCs or whatnot

people who jerk off over fallout 1 and 2 haven't played the games my guy. They play New Vegas, hear its like the old fallout games and then project that backwards into the interplay fallout games. Todd howard's biggest crime was resurrecting that franchise so now you get to be inundated with annoying people who got strongarmed into voting for joe think they are revolutionaries for choosing the Yes Man ending.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
yeah, I am waiting for fallout london instead. At least its coming out.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

croup coughfield posted:

theyre all going to come out, actually, and be fun, andim going to have fun playing them

no bro, microsoft should give fallout to obsidian (please ignore outer worlds. Todd howard bullied them into making a breadtube video for a story)

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

i know they didn't do it for engine reasons and lovely console per-core performance but i'd have enjoyed and been much more sold on the plot of fallout 4 a lot more if in the minuteman (and maybe brotherhood) playthroughs you went into open war with institute forces and synths after settlements you don't control (or left alone for long enough) eventually got slaughtered by the institute as they're implied to have been doing the entire time

20 settlers with inexplicably powerful .45 carbines vs 30-50 feral synths would have been loving amazing to play through

you nuke the institute. Hard to do an open war afterwards if you blow up their base. The game's biggest crime was not allowing us to invade nuka world as a postgame option. Just rebuilding america with strontium laced coca cola.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
its anticapitalist in the epic gen-x "I don't even care way" which means not at all. Fallout 2 also has the 90s equivalent of memespeak and incessant pop culture references. New Vegas' big opposing factions are a somewhat corrupt miniature USA and a bunch of literal football rapists and slavers. I really blame hbomberguy's video essay on fallout 3 for this current outbreak though.

Bethesda of all people actually put some actual thought into their game. The epic capitalist deathbot liberty prime that spouts red scare slogans? You use it to laser the remnants of the US government and give people access to a critical resource for free. The NCR equivalent in fallout 4 requires a literal deus ex machina in the form of the player to bring them back to life. The most morally upright main faction in the game has you be the equivalent of a partisan in a blasted hellscape. The bad guys have mechanical incentives that tempt the player to join them in the game for added benefit.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
yeah you put the lucaria parry enchantment on your shield and spam the parry button.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Whirling posted:

I do think that Fallout: New Vegas definitely is the better RPG of the 3D Fallouts, but yeah, it is weird how people have turned it into this rose emoji banner when there's no actual anti-capitalism in it either. Its fine to like things that aren't purely socialist, so I don't know why people need to do mental jujitsu to say that going down the Yes Man route means the Courier will implement socialism in the Mojave, rather than things being run by the gleefully capitalist ex-tribals that House brought in to run the casinos.

BGS made that explicit lol and got a lot of butthurt from trve fallout fans for the same reason. You side with the institute and it requires you to kill both the brotherhood and the railroad. Then their post game content is you doing the same poo poo while gamers cried about bethesda not giving agency to the players. No, you chose to side with the reclusive and imperialist faction and now have to enforce their code.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
you could simply ride on by and take the longer route to the godrick castle.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Regarde Aduck posted:

yeah i always go the long way on replays just to get more xp on the way

eh you need a failsafe option otherwise you may get softlocked from ending the game.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Lostconfused posted:

I exercised my agency of not finishing Fallout 4.

Bethesda could have made a better game, but they didn't, oh well.

the gameplay is straight up better

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
if only they had the cutting edge of outer worlds made by the creators of fallout an NV

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Halser posted:

It makes sense that a world where communism isn't an option just continuously destroys itself while just changing the names of the factions doing the destroying.

And communism isn't an option because you're living in the remains of an ultra capitalist US where McCarthyism lasted 200 years and then everything got bombed back to the stone age. There's no chance anyone would find remnants of that ideology anywhere that isn't silly chinese ghoul soldiers.

There is a chinese ghoul soldier in Fallout 4. You can ree at him for being an evil red or help him out because its the nice thing to do. The entire minutemen plotline is doing mutual aid to other people who pay it forward, even mechanically. The last remnant of prewar US institutions explicitly does colonialism and slavery to maintain their higher standards of living.

None of this poo poo matters because its a goofy videogame where you can maximize your luck so you can punch people in their head and coca cola bottlecaps fly out of their rectums.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

What popular media, let alone video games, outside of DE and NV, even acknowledge that Karl Marx existed? It's an absurdly low bar.

dunno, its there in all the victoria games and you get to put big lenin statues in workers and resources.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Grapplejack posted:

I appreciate that it's an option to go "none of this poo poo matters anymore man" and you can just help him and let him go

Also if we're talking communism it's in atomic heart and I thought it was an interesting choice to have the main character basically be gung ho about communism, he mostly just bitches about specific people not doing enough for the common man

atomic heart being soviet themed fallout was cool.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
no however you can gently caress a bear who is acktually a 200 year old druid so its totally legal and cool dood.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
are there moogles in ff16?

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

RandolphCarter posted:

looking at a guide to install viva new vegas, my eyes glaze over and I decide to just not play new vegas.

its idiotproofed. cmon mack.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

loquacius posted:

Then why in the gently caress did they buy Activision lmao

phil got tired of waiting for warcraft 4 OP.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Whirling posted:

I’m enjoying Jagged Alliance 3, although the UI is really confusing to me as I have not touched a single one of these games.

also enjoying heavily modded Fallout 4. Unemployed life sucks and I hope I get a job soon, but there is something to being able to have time for all my hobbies.

what modlist?

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
lmao, todd howard wins again.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Lostconfused posted:

But seriously, there's going to be launchers within launchers forever because everyone wants their own thing that they can manage.

You still need 3 different launchers for a Bethesda game because of mods.

you need one lol. MO2 has come a long way.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Epic High Five posted:

The correct approach is to have communication be a part of it but you can only select from a list of possible messages. This could be on a wheel in combat, and for anything outside of combat like outfit recruitment or organizing it can be a more expansive Souls-like system. A well designed multiplayer game shouldn't have boxes for text input after the password.

Was Gundam Evolution the one where it feels like you're just a regular guy in a dumb suit because they just used bog standard shooter maps and told everybody to theater of the mind that these walls and ramps and boxes are like 10x bigger than they'd normally be?

the souls system of everything being But Hole? lmao what the hell.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Grapplejack posted:

I like that you left Amazing Cultivation Simulator unexplained

ACS is rimworld but sometimes your pawns dab.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

DrManiac posted:

Man, I wish a Western dev with a lot of resources would try something like amazing cultivation simulator. The sense of accomplishment you get when you finally can make the complex rules of the world for you was huge.



[E] I was expecting not buying Diablo 4 to pay off, but not this soon. Did they really nerf 70% of everything? Lol

you can just play rimworld lmao.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

turn off the TV posted:

morrowind has better combat than oblivion or skyrim. none of them are fun action games but morrowind lets you juice your stats into the thousands and then cast a fireball so large it wipes out every loaded NPC and/or crashes the game

modded skyrim is straight up an excellent action game and even the base vanilla game game was better than witcher 3.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Augus posted:

i'm sure its but trying to set the game up like that is such a convoluted shitshow of mod dependencies that I will never be able to get through

lol nah

its combat certainly was.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
can you run around butt naked in the game?

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
starfield is pretty good so far. The first dungeon was pretty neat and if you explore the rest of the area you have a pretty cool conclusion and free stuff. Liking the character creator a lot too.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
if you think starfield's combat is worse than fallout 4 then I don't know what to tell you.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
it generates skyrim sized maps with the somewhat sparse POIs you can visit. There's plenty of sidequests in the main cities and the game now has a working DLSS mode thanks to modders. Oh you can acquire it for free too. There were certain design decisions that were weird but hopefully they get fixed.

People are gonna be playing this for years.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
thats only true for when they generate the world's surface. The procgen planets seem to be strictly extra stuff you can do IF it takes your fancy.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
exqueeze me. It doesn't have someone look at me dead in the eye and say capitalism? More like Crapitalism.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
look heres whats going to happen. Everyone will agree that the game sucks and is bad and bethesda should use UE5. A large number of people will continue to play it and the consensus will be that modders are literally saving bethesda. Meanwhile the average modder will make mods like "space realism mod, make barrett white mod etc." Someone will pop up and say that outer worlds was better and so on and so forth.


crepeface posted:

i feel like im being gaslit about a bethesda game
you can literally try it on the PC and buy it on a sale lol.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

crepeface posted:

im gonna try gay sex instead

have a good one!

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

KirbyKhan posted:

I am CONFIDENT that BG3 is a better gay sex simulator.

for now

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Cuttlefush posted:

im guessing its more like the people who make the list of things to implement probably don't know it's an autoimmune thing and think it's just like freckles or something and anyone who does know knows better than to bring that up to the people who make the list

yes. the character creator is very, very very detailed and the game characters are generated the same way you make your own characters.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Frosted Flake posted:

I think a bunch of companies have had models with vitiligo recently, maybe it’s that?

I forget how early it was in the game that something mentioned the UC’s free market society, but that would explain the fat, autoimmune disease future utopia where service guarantees citizenship.

they also have created their offbrand xenomorph and they run around killing people.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

evilmiera posted:

So what is the most subversive faction I can join that isn't just "Us murder, us bad!"

just play the main quest. Its literally the safari club

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Frosted Flake posted:

Yeah I’m only two hours or so in but the game can’t expect me to like the UC, right? I’ve already run into quests to join the Ulster Special Constabulary and the Ulster Defence Regiment as Security Auxiliary or Vanguard, nearly as soon as I landed and through a main story quest.

they also have their own mujahideen who are going feral.

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