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Hello YOSPOS, if dead comedy forums are not dead and obsolete enough for you, then you should take a look at Gopher, an early competitor/predecessor of the web. It's kind of an extremely primitive variant of HTTP/HTML (except not really). Browsing Gopherspace is a lot like browsing early pure-text web pages. There's hyperlinks but not much else. Is Gopher better than the web? Technically not really, although the protocol is much simpler. You can implement a client in thirty lines of code. Gopherspace is fun because there is no commercial activity and everyone who posts there there is a huge nerd with nerd interests, and it's mostly text about nerd things. How do I access Gopherspace? lynx, which nerds mostly know as that funny text browser is actually a pretty capable Gopher client. Just point at any Gopher hole and have fun. Newer clients include sacc and elpher. There may also be some GUI clients, but what is the point? There is also a gopher-web gateway here if you are not brave enough to install software: https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw Where do I go in Gopherspace? One of the fun things about Gopherspace is that the search engines are not very good, so you find stuff by browsing and following links. It's like the pre-Google web, except it's not as annoying as it was back then, because you don't have a deadline and you're just browsing for fun. Here are some good places to start: gopher://floodgap.com/1/new (newest-first list of Gopher servers) gopher://arcanesciences.com/1/ (someone with strong Itanium opinions) gopher://bitreich.org/1 (community/cult that pushes Gopher really hard for some reason) How do I publish in Gopherspace? Put up a server somewhere. I like the one called geomyidae but any will work. Please share your own cool gopher holes and resources.
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"gopher" sounds like the name of another twitter replacement wannbe that nobody will use
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Jul 8, 2023 14:18
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I did not read the op but I appreciate this thread exists
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Jul 8, 2023 14:34
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Sweevo posted:"gopher" sounds like the name of another twitter replacement wannbe that nobody will use you're right in that nobody used it
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Jul 8, 2023 14:50
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when i was in 8th grade, i used veronica to search gopher for facts about lasers because i was doing a report on them for science class.
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Jul 8, 2023 15:05
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Elder Postsman posted:when i was in 8th grade, i used veronica to search gopher for facts about lasers because i was doing a report on them for science class. You should do that again and tell us what is new in lasers since then.
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Jul 8, 2023 15:10
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when i read the title of the thread i thought for sure this was gonna be a rotor thread.
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Jul 8, 2023 15:12
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Isn't gophers what go devs call themselves? more like gophuk yourself
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Jul 8, 2023 15:18
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Mr. Nice! posted:when i read the title of the thread i thought for sure this was gonna be a rotor thread. He is very very welcome.
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Jul 8, 2023 15:24
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I always thought it'd be fun to write a VMRL gopher client but unsurprisingly someone beat me to it https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?=gopher.floodgap.com+70+312f676f706865727672
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Jul 8, 2023 15:36
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Athas posted:He is very very welcome. are you bloodmane
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Jul 8, 2023 15:54
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anyway,Cat Face Joe posted:a million years ago, my mom announced that she had signed the two of us up for "how to search the internet" classes at the library cause she felt like she better "get on board" and it was all gopher protocol stuff for some reason. this was before google but after yahoo
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Jul 8, 2023 15:55
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how can i get my javascript stuff served up and working on this junk? i can’t publish without bootstrap
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Jul 8, 2023 16:49
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fart simpson posted:how can i get my javascript stuff served up and working on this junk? i can’t publish without bootstrap I don't know about that, but the state-of-the-art in user monitoring is to kindly ask your visitors to send you an email listing their favourite brands and hobbies.
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Jul 8, 2023 17:06
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a few years back i made a gopher version of my company’s website, using our internal apis, as a joke it was fun and pure and enjoyable the way building for the web hasn’t been for me in a decade or more most of our employees were too young to get it
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Jul 9, 2023 01:22
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no gophers here op but I did see a couple prairie dogs today
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Jul 9, 2023 03:52
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Elder Postsman posted:veronica aaaaaaaaaaa
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Jul 9, 2023 03:58
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well-read undead posted:a few years back i made a gopher version of my company’s website, using our internal apis, as a joke Sounds fun! One of my friends works at a company where the corporate firewall does not allow them to access Gopher. To give him an argument for why they should the Gopher port, I made a page that would be relevant to his work, where they use OCaml: gopher://sigkill.dk/1/ocaml Sadly, when he opened a ticket asking for the Gopher port to be opened and pointing to this page as a work-related justification, they just pointed him at the Floodgap proxy. 
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obviously i am a big fan of retro/low power/appropriate technology gopher is neat! someone posted a thing about how WAP should have just been gopher, which i thought was insightful. having that kind of reduced interaction ability means your input can just be a d-pad, which is great. But generally its an older protocol that doesnt take a lot of modern things like privacy and security very seriously. You probably already know about Gemini https://gemini.circumlunar.space/ which I think is a great pattern for reviving old technologies - we want the stripped down, ad-free environment with simple interaction, but also with reasonably modern protocols where we dont have to care about weirdo binary wire formats and decades-old security holes. rotor fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Jul 9, 2023 19:20
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gopher could never have succeeded as a mainstream protocol because the incredibly easy “gopher deez nuts” is simply too devastating
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:gopher could never have succeeded as a mainstream protocol because the incredibly easy “gopher deez nuts” is simply too devastating this is of course true and with the benefits of hindsight its easy to see this now, but back in the 90s this wasnt at all clear.
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i could gopher a drink after clicking this thread
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Jul 11, 2023 15:39
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polyester concept posted:i could gopher a drink after clicking this thread
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polyester concept posted:i could gopher a drink after clicking this thread Good news: gopher://mozz.us:7003/1/ It's actually much more pleasant to use than any web cocktail site.
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Jul 12, 2023 10:08
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has anyone said gopher deez nuts yet?
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akadajet posted:has anyone said gopher deez nuts yet? not one person
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gopher and gemini are cool ideas but i've never really found any decent sites on them
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Jul 15, 2023 02:59
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bill murray was good in that movie
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Achmed Jones posted:gopher and gemini are cool ideas but i've never really found any decent sites on them You could make your own. geomyidae requires very few resources. If you are a plang person, here is a way to do that too: gopher://mozz.us:7005/1/
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one of these days i'll come up with a project that uses gopher and/or gemini. love the idea of the internet without http, i just struggle to find motivation to actually write something
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I like internet without ads.
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Jul 22, 2023 03:33
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Well you can have ads on Gopher, but it will just be some text telling you to buy some gizmo.
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Jul 22, 2023 09:45
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im going to rewrite it in rust, op
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The Management posted:I like internet without ads. ads are aids
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Another important resource. The Gopher times: gopher://bitreich.org/1/tgtimes I think a new issue will come out soon, to which I contributed an article.
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Dijkstracula posted:I always thought it'd be fun to write a VMRL gopher client but unsurprisingly someone beat me to it https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?=gopher.floodgap.com+70+312f676f706865727672 JESUS WEPT!
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DaTroof posted:JESUS WEPT! you should reboot your graphical mud as a VRML/gopher exploration space 
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Dijkstracula posted:you should reboot your graphical mud as a VRML/gopher exploration space at least i'd have an excuse for my lovely low-poly models
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