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brb gonna work on my gopherhole IYKWIM 
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why don't you gopher a walk out of yospos
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nvrgrls posted:why don't you gopher a walk out of yospos do you still gopher a good dj mix
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spun up a gophernicus server this weekend and spent a little time today farting around with it, it's pretty cool and really not that hard to setup
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HamAdams posted:spun up a gophernicus server this weekend and spent a little time today farting around with it, it's pretty cool and really not that hard to setup why don't you gophernicus self
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1611668 the duality of man
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Let us hope 2024 will be the year of Gopher in the browser. It is true that Gopherspace is growing.
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echinopsis posted:jopher
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A slide from the recent brcon23, demonstrating the growth or decline of Gopherspace:pre:## Veronica Statistics 2017: 133 gopher servers, 4.9 mio. unique selectors 2018: 260 gopher servers, 3.7 mio. unique selectors 2019: 320 gopher servers, 4.2 mio. unique selectors 2020: 395 gopher servers, 4.5 mio. unique selectors 2021: 361 gopher servers, 6.0 mio. unique selectors 2022: 325 gopher servers, 5.0 mio. unique selectors 2023: 319 gopher servers, 5.1 mio. unique selectors Servers were lost, but selectors is growing again! A huge difference to 2017, when we started! Athas fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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Aug 22, 2023 09:49
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because of this thread I wrote a gopher server for linux it uses some fast stuff that didn't exist in the early 90s like epoll and sendfile and port reuse and tcp corking and supports forking into any number of worker processes I was thinking of going even further and using the cutting edge io_uring stuff to make the fastest gopher server possible
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BattleMaster posted:because of this thread I wrote a gopher server for linux Excellent! Is it available somewhere?
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i think the gemini project faq is a good read. As much as I do love old technology, old protocols do have flaws - usually around security and privacy - and I think its important to acknowledge that and create new, modern protocols that at the same time retain as much simplicity as possible given the modern environments. https://geminiprotocol.net/docs/faq-section-1.gmi like you've all heard me talk up usenet, and I still think its great, but it has some fuckin issues that it just didnt have back in the early 90s. Spam is endemic and there's no good way to fix it and its largely turned usenet into just a weird file transfer mechanism. I think a modern version of nntp is sorely needed, just like gemini is a modern gopher and its one of the few things about computers i really think about much.
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Athas posted:Excellent! Is it available somewhere? I'll share it when I have a chance to make sure it isn't totally embarrassing and also configurable since it's kind of sub-minimum-viable-product right now - but I do believe it conforms to the RFC at least  it doesn't support CGI or automatically-generated directory listings and I guess I need to figure out how much I care about those things at some point edit: leaning toward not doing those things, CGI feels like it's against the spirit of gopher and directory listing gopher menus can be generated by scripts that run periodically if they're desired BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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i think i still have a gopherhole somewhere. haven't updated it in years though
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hbag posted:i think i still have a gopherhole somewhere. haven't updated it in years though let’s try to keep this thread sfw, thanks
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rotor posted:i think the gemini project faq is a good read. As much as I do love old technology, old protocols do have flaws - usually around security and privacy - and I think its important to acknowledge that and create new, modern protocols that at the same time retain as much simplicity as possible given the modern environments. I think that is missing the point. Don't put medical data on Gopher and don't expect your bank to make a Gopher interface. I don't mind gophers (the encrypted version), but for me gopher is a way to LARP a simpler internet where all that complexity is not needed. I don't need everything to be on Gopher, I just need to have nerd fun on Gopher, and I don't need complex security and privacy for that. Gemini is fine, but there is less stuff on Gemini, so I have not investigated it much. Although I noticed that my favourite Gopher client does support it.
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nah, integrity (and confidentiality) of traffic is pretty crucial even to throw-away silly data. if you think tls is only needed for banking and medical data, that reflects more on your understanding of what that technology provides than on the one of 35 years ago.
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probably most importantly pretty good to be clear on whether this is all a funny tech joke that should absolutely not be used in any context where the word "use" is appropriate, or a real thing. because for anything even approaching use defaulting to an implementation done by one guy gleefully applying every available low-level trick available turns from fun and cool to real bad quick.
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Achmed Jones posted:nah, integrity (and confidentiality) of traffic is pretty crucial even to throw-away silly data. if you think tls is only needed for banking and medical data, that reflects more on your understanding of what that technology provides than on the one of 35 years ago. It's not very important to anything I use it for  For me Gopher is not a tech joke, but it is a tech I use when I don't want to worry about all the complex stuff of modern real world protocols. Athas fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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Athas posted:I think that is missing the point. Don't put medical data on Gopher and don't expect your bank to make a Gopher interface. I don't mind gophers (the encrypted version), but for me gopher is a way to LARP a simpler internet where all that complexity is not needed. I don't need everything to be on Gopher, I just need to have nerd fun on Gopher, and I don't need complex security and privacy for that. I know the faq is long but if youre interested in low-power/appropriate technologies you should give it a read, esp the parts where they justify their tech decisions and their philosophy.
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tl;dr is that its less about someone stealing your bus pass and more about surveillance and hijacked content
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