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Scythe posted:From reading the end of the last thread it sounds like Sony XM4 was the standard rec for things like this. Am I right? What else should I look at, if any? Personally, I think it's between the XM4 and QC45 still, and it's really just a question of which is more comfortable on your head.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 17:59 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 10:59 |
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:In on the first floor of an epic thread. My new Arias sound like $70 should have no business of sounding like. The age of Chinese IEMs is a truly blessed era. i don't want to break your heart but I honestly think the kiwi ears cadenza are just as good at $35
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 18:01 |
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Don’t worry bud, I am enjoying what I have and the price difference is basically a round of beers with the prices we have around here. Next stop will probably be some IEM planars so if you have an opinion on that I would appreciate it. I'm still daily drivin the original 7hz Timeless and loving the heck out of em. They do have some spicy treble wayyyyyy up top that messes with timbre a bit, but I like the effect a lot. Shouer S12 is also very good in that department and cheaper. forum user redeyes has had great success modding them, perhaps shoot them a pm or something if you're interested. I've heard good things about the zetian wu heyday as well but haven't listened to them.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 21:20 |
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Lurks With Wolves posted:tl;dr, I have one question for the Headphone Thread: how low are you willing to go for something that will work long term? $30? $15? Are the modern $5 ear buds they sell next to the cash register good enough for a sufficiently casual listener in 2023? The really great sounding stuff under $50 is all IEMs, but the good news is that price point is getting a lot of love these days. kiwi ears cadenza, moondrop chu 2, crinacle zero red, or even just the good ol 7hz zero are all excellent. the modern $5 earbuds are kind of pointless now imo because at $20 you can get something actually good with a removable cable you can replace if it breaks.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 00:29 |
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Zorilla posted:The earpads on my old headphones seem to be a tiny bit more plush (possibly on account of them being OEM HP-EP replacement pads), but when I tried swapping them out, it made no difference. It's not due to the higher clamping force of the newer headphones either because I can still feel my earlobe pushed up against the inside even when I hold the earcups slightly away from my face. At this point, I'm stumped. there are a TON of aftermarket pads for the m50s as the stock ones famously suck rear end. honestly just grab whatever looks good on amazon. brainwavz and dekoni are both good brands.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 21:29 |
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Palladium posted:sound-wise i like the 7hz zeros better since it has better bass but i like the cables and the fit of the chu more The Chu 2 just came out with better bass and a removable cable at the same price, I think they're much more competitive now. and yeah that SQ vs price thing is skewing even cheaper now that you can get really good tuning for practically no money
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2023 17:55 |
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Mustache Ride posted:Edit: I see some brands that seem cheap like the isotunes that have a similar style. Any of these worth it? I'm okay going to Bluetooth (actually would probably prefer it) but not sure I want to spend more than $120ish. Honestly I don't think so, Etymotic is really, really good at what they do. Except their cables, which are extreme rear end. I think your only real option is a set of ER2XR / SE and a cable from Lunashops https://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=8014, which despite the sketchy rear end website is real. they're on aliexpress as well. If you drop the mic requirement, the ER2 is just a straight upgrade and meets your budget, but i'd still consider a lunashops cable at some point because the stock one is microphonic as poo poo. Mustache Ride posted:This thing worth it? https://a.co/d/6ZNJCkI subjectively, that's up to you since i think it's your only option for neckband wireless etymotics. objectively, hell no lol that price is wild. you could just get a qudelix instead and it would work with everything. and sound much better and have eq and ldac. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jul 30, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 30, 2023 19:53 |
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560S are also extremely good, it depends what you're looking for. 6xx have the magical HD6 series midrange that i still haven't heard any other headphone replicate, 560S have better bass and treble extension, and are far more "jack of all trades". a different vibe.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 19:33 |
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Anti-Hero posted:I think (emphasis on *think*) I'm looking for a pretty neutral sound profile with really fantastic imaging. Googling around it appears like my 558s are pretty well regarded in this aspect, with a bit more bass than you would hear on really neutral studio monitors. I've read mixed opinions on whether the 560S is really an upgrade over them. I think the 560s are a significant upgrade, personally. 6xx are possibly a bigger upgrade depending on what you're looking for. sundaras are better, but more expensive and the fit can be divisive.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 23:21 |
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Annath posted:Is it common to have ear buds where one side fits fine, and the other doesn't? Yes! Bodies are weird. Plenty of people use different sized eartips for right and left.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2023 22:10 |
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Zorilla posted:Open back headphones have their place, but because they roll off quite a bit in the bass region ?????????? what on earth are you talking about e: also dt770 are almost ludicrously v shaped, in no universe are they "relatively flat" i appreciate your enthusiasm but graphs do exist Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Aug 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 06:04 |
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Zorilla posted:I was basing it off the target curve RTINGS.com uses, fair enough. Based on the part of my post you've chosen to quote, are you disputing the idea that open backs have bass rolloff? Everything I've observed shows that they do and that could be an issue when used for movies or games. Here is a raw graph if that's any better: Your two open back examples are the Sennheiser 58X and the HD600, which are very nearly the exact same headphone. Both roll off in the subbass. That does not mean that all open back headphones behave the same way. I don't know why you're basing your entire experience of open back headphones off one model, but try your experiment again with some models from Focal, Hifiman, or especially Audeze or ZMF. Example: Ananda vs HD58x: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-5/graph#891/7917/670 Look at the old Fidelio X2HR for something cheaper. If the bass rolls off, that's a function of the specific tuning of that headphone, it has absolutely gently caress all to do with being open back, especially if it's planar. The HD600 has many, many variants but that doesn't mean it represents all open back headphones. e: also, when recommending the DT770, do not ignore that insane spike at 8K in the graph. it is real. i love mine but in small doses because god drat that treble. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 15:24 |
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Zorilla posted:In practical use, a little bit of sub-bass loss isn't going to be a big deal and may not even be noticeable for most music listening, but my original recommendation to use closed backs for movies and gaming still stands. I greatly prefer my ATH-M50xBTs or DT 770s to my HD 58x for this purpose. Of course you do. The 58x are notably bass light, like most HD600 variants, and both the M50x and DT770 have massive sub shelves. (and wild rear end treble, holy poo poo lol) Here's a comparison between your 58x, the X2HR and the Sundara. Note how the X2HR has a big, fun bump at 60hz. Notice how while the Sundara has less bass volume, it extends pretty much linearly. Like most open back planars, you can EQ this for as much subbass as you want. Yes, closed backs are much easier to construct as bass cannons since you can port the chamber for a resonant bass spike. This does not mean that you can't have bassy open backs, and the quality of open back bass tends to be much better since it avoids all the phase issues that ported enclosures introduce. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 18:21 |
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101 posted:Had no clue there was a new thread. Was this ever even linked in the old one? lol multiple times, yes lol
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 04:58 |
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101 posted:I only see once and tbf you'd usually close the old thread as you post a link to the new one. the op of the thread is MIA and iyg doesn't have a mod so I had to pm an admin to get it closed
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 07:26 |
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Mr. Mercury posted:I've been granted the ability to tidy up about IYG so that's what I'm hoping to do! hell yeah, go nuts with power
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2023 20:08 |
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Mr. Mercury posted:Is there any way I could convince you to report these things versus giving them air? I agree, the name is offensive to give a company; but this is the sort of thing a report or PM to modmin is for is there any way i could convince you to just probe and move on so we don't have to air this out in the headphones thread i appreciate the hands on approach but maybe it's better taken to a PM if you'd like to get into rehabbing posters (don't do that) e: did you just probe yourself? lmao what the gently caress is happening Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 17, 2023 |
# ¿ Sep 17, 2023 07:30 |
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redeyes posted:I was posting just for fun or just to chat about certain tunings. Clearly this is the wrong place. Wont happen again. i mean, do what you want but that guy was clearly out of line. i think your company name is dumb but also i don't really care, same as, i think, most people here. also maybe don't call your company short bus audio if you're going to be sensitive at people commenting on it.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2023 16:32 |
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njsykora posted:Something that came to mind over the last few days, with USB-C becoming more and more standard on devices do you think there's actually a path where the 3.5mm jack actually becomes obsolete outside specialist use in favour of USB Audio? Probably not. Most people who still use wired headphones are doing so either because they're cheaper or they sound better. Adding a dac/amp to a product will inherently increase the cost and can hurt the sound quality if it isn't done well. There will be more of a market for dongles, and cheap headphones will potentially get way better with DSP as we're starting to see, but I don't think public adoption will change much from where it is now. Also, professional audio will almost certainly never do that, so you'll always have at least one segment that isn't using it. Nobody's going to retrofit an SSL console from 1996 with a usb-c headphone port. Or replace their live room distro amps.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2023 16:13 |
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If you really need a built in mic, sennheiser PC38X would be my choice.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2023 17:24 |
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audeze maxwell springs to mind, but if you genuinely don't care about sound quality you can get away with spending a lot less money
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2023 21:36 |
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Zorilla posted:That's actually one of the gripes I have about TWS. There is no way to store them without also charging them. Constantly topping off lithium cells isn't exactly good for them, and ones small enough to fit into earbuds don't have a great shelf life to begin with (doubly so if they're from Sony). I'd at least like a way to limit charge to 80% temporarily or to cancel charging when they're in the case. This is why i won't buy expensive ones. I'm fine trading off sound quality for convenience since I already have good wired options but I won't spend more than I have to on devices with tiny, non-replaceable batteries. That said, most devices will manage the battery so as to avoid the "last 80%" problem automatically.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2023 17:58 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:no we get that, but why does it work? I had always heard that on many modern devices a circuit detects the impedance of a line input and adjusts output accordingly, but I’ve also heard that device manufacturers just try to max out around the correct voltage and maybe you gotta dial down a little bit if it’s too hot or dial up the volume on the amp end to compensate if it’s too quiet depending on where you’re at in simple terms line out is 2vrms (although usually it's more like 1 these days) at around 100 ohms. headphone out is run through an opamp and typically optimized for more power at less impedance so it'll be noisier if you use it as a line source but if you dial the volume correctly it'll work in a pinch. if there are devices trying to combine those two concepts in a single output port i wouldn't buy them, it's either overengineered or lying. e: to clarify, you can't really use impedance detection here since there are plenty of headphones with impedance greater than line level, and conversely if the detection failed with very low impedance headphones it could blow them out. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 2, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 2, 2023 21:07 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:well alright, but you’ve just eliminated all smarphones, tablets, most laptops, etc and also stuff like the Apple DACs which pretty much everybody here recommends for a bunch of different applications no, please read the sentence directly previous to that one. they're not selling those as line out devices, they're headphone amps which is fine. like i said, it works in a pinch. the apple dac works well as a line out because even if you max it out at 1vrms it's still way cleaner than it needs to be. it's just not designed expressly to do that. none of these devices do any sort of impedance detection. afaik. except those new apple laptops with the high impedance headphone out. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Oct 2, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 2, 2023 21:17 |
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i would not be surprised if the guy who died because he tried to "magical thinking" his otherwise treatable cancer away was also an audiophile
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2023 06:28 |
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veni veni veni posted:Uh, wasn't it pancreatic? I think he lived with it for like 7 years, with 9% of people having a 5 year survival rate It was a rare, treatable sort found early, but he refused surgery or any treatment other than literally fruit for 9 months. he expressed his regret for that in multiple interviews.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2023 19:37 |
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I agree that IEMs are in general better than closed backs at this point but I do still love my sennheiser HD25 to death. yes, they're on-ear but mine are so old and formed to my head that I don't even notice i'm wearing them anymore. One of the few (only?) actual headphones around $100 that I think beat the Aria and its ilk.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2023 18:27 |
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AEMINAL posted:Any advice for a basshead looking to jack the bass up with my AKG 371's? I'm using peace/eqAPO and have a harman curve thing set for the pair. Which frequency range is ideal to crank up? Should i use the bass booster effects thing instead? Depends what kind of bass you're looking for. I would ditch the "harman" adjustment and start from flat, the K371 is already tuned close enough to harman that eq probably isn't going to help you get closer without other drawbacks. Start with a single low shelf at around 80 hz and +4db or so. That'll give you a healthy sub boost, you can adjust the frequency and volume from there.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 15:47 |
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i hope that's a firmware problem because if not lmao
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2023 00:11 |
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i have a set of those $25 moondrop space travels on the way, i hear they're very well tuned especially for the price.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 04:12 |
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coconono posted:Has anyone used either in 90+ db environments? jesus christ dude. ANC headphones are not hearing protection. don't end up a story in the OSHA thread.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 17:02 |
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MarcusSA posted:While true what about over the ear protection with some wireless IEMs? yeah that's the pro move from what i hear coconono posted:Well I was hoping for a combination passive and active. you probably want to look at actual hearing protection with bluetooth from a company like 3M or Walker's, which is kind of a different product segment. i doubt they sound great, but with 90+db of ambient noise i don't think anything will, and you need something actually rated to protect you from that.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 17:34 |
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those IEMs don't sound like that. most likely you're using tips that are too big and you're not getting the right insertion depth. you should be able to fully seat the IEM in your ear canal and get a good seal without feeling any pressure. try spinfits.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2023 19:19 |
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Zorilla posted:I have noticed that the outer housing on these IEMs stick out in my ear quite a bit compared to various product photos/B-roll footage showing them in use. Unfortunately, I don't think the ear tips are the determining factor here because even if I remove the ear tips entirely, I still can't insert the IEMs much deeper. The nozzle length and diameter both seem to be a problem. ah, they just straight up don't fit. bummer!
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2023 01:34 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:i have a set of those $25 moondrop space travels on the way, i hear they're very well tuned especially for the price. These are really impressive. The stock tuning is great if you like a really big bass bump. I much prefer the toned down "monitor" setting because the stock bass is right on the edge of me not being able to take it seriously. There's a Basshead setting as well that is completely bonkers over the top if that's your bag. If this was just a good sounding TWS set with no frills at this price, it would be a good deal. What's impressing me is that it has a gaming mode that actually works to cut latency to like 2 frames, pretty decent ANC, and you can remap the controls however you want. I get like 4.5 hours on a charge which is okay at best, and the app is extremely, EXTREMELY garbage, but again, fuckin $25 for all that and better tuning than airpods. poo poo's actually crazy.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2023 22:35 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Well drat. Just splurged on a new pair of headphones, decided to go with the Logitech Pro X 2 Lightspeeds after seeing loads of good reviews. Wanted to try the Audeze Maxwell, but everyone was sold out. But man, these Logis sound loving abysmal. I have an old pair of Sennheiser HDR 180 Wireless, and these completely annihilate the Logis. I still like the Sennheiser, but the battery life is definitely last-gen and even with a full charge on fresh batteries they only get about 8-10 hours. Oh well, I'll get my money back on a return, but what a pain in the rear end. In general, try not to buy headphones from companies that don't primarily make headphones. Except maybe sony.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2023 17:20 |
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qirex posted:I'm surprised that many people have such an expensive DAC but it is apparently one of the best ones you can get and it actually does stuff like EQ and have a good headphone amp unlike most giant R2R audiophile monstrosities. RME is not an audiophile company, they make pro audio gear, so at least it's not exactly a ripoff. That thing has lots of features specific to mastering engineers, and is priced to fit that specific niche. People buying it for home use are wasting immense amounts of money for reasons I can't really fathom but i guess if you're independently wealthy and think they're neat go nuts. eddiewalker posted:It’s objectively perfect and exceeds the limits of human hearing by a huge margin. so does the $8 apple dongle tbf Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Nov 24, 2023 |
# ¿ Nov 24, 2023 08:03 |
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Bright Bart posted:I have been unsuccessful in getting people to check out Sennheiser 280s instead of Beyerdynamics or even more expensive Sennheisers. I've even tried to point out that the Pro in the name isn't a marketing gimmick; that plenty of producers and even engineers use that exact pair. They counter saying no, they use things like Beats. Which is true, lots of producers wear them in videos and documentaries. Because they get paid to. And also they master tracks to sound nice on popular headphones. After recording and mixing on something like the 280s. Oh well... Anecdotally, I've found that nobody mixes on HD280s but they're absolutely everywhere that anyone is recording music. You're more likely to see DT770s in the mixing room for whatever reason, but a ton of studios have a huge collection of 280s for tracking. Also, I've never met a drummer who hasn't owned a pair. I think they're a bit clampy and sweaty for long term home use but they're indestructible and sound good. Also anecdotally, anyone using beats in a professional environment would get extremely laughed at behind their back or in front of it depending on the situation. e: Bright Bart posted:I'm sure the new version solves those problems but I don't know if I could recommend the version I have. But I'm stuck with mine because apparently they last forever. lmao absolutely not, grado is the cranky old geezer of the audio world and will not change anything ever. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Dec 1, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 07:20 |
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DildenAnders posted:If you don't want to do headphones + mic, I once again recommend the Sennheiser Pc38x, good microphone, sound pretty great. Only thing is, they leave a lot of excess budget so not sure if you could find a way to spend the rest of that. Yeah unless you need closed back, this is the go-to. Anyone know where I can get just the brown ety filters without spending 30 bux on the whole kit?
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2023 18:40 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 10:59 |
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AvesPKS posted:I'm looking for a good pair of wireless earbuds. It seems like the B&W Pi7 S2s are the only ones available with multiple drivers. Are multiple drivers that useful, or more of a gimmick for BT earbuds? No, tuning has nothing to do with number of drivers. It's arguable whether they're a gimmick even for wired iems. What do you not like about your current sets?
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2023 07:37 |