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Computer Serf posted:That sorta seems like the point. Ken is ironically more oppressed by design of Mattels objectification of Ken as more like an accessory. Ken then just becomes obsessed with the bimbofied idea of a horse as an accessory to men, like all he knows is objectification and power dynamics.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Gloria has to introduce the pain of reality into this perfect system because, well… what are the stakes again? That the Barbie brand will be discontinued?
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The movie firmly establishes a heightened reality in which the real life gets directly influenced by things happening in Barbieland, it is thus text that Barbie dolls actually have a lot of power and having toxic Ken dolls have power is bad. This serves to underline the main theme, which is "man this is ridiculous, it couldn't happen in real life, because that is much stupider"
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Jul 31, 2023 00:40
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Loved the speech in Rogue One where they went "I kill Imperials because they are space nazis, and nazis are a real problem in the real world where they too should be exterminated, but the system protects them for profit reasons". Bit simplistic but heartwarming
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The characters in Rogue One are killing Nazis fr. Like, they’re not pretending.
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Sucker Punch rules I watched it twice for the fight scenes and how dark it goesSuperMechagodzilla posted:Like, this only makes sense if you're counting movies where a character turns to the camera and directly identifies the abstract concept of patriarchy as the villain.
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Some of you have been posting in CineD for so long that you forgot that there IS a difference between subtext and text. Fury Road has strong feminist themes, but put it next to Barbie and ask a random person which movie is about feminism, they'll point to the latter 99% of the time. Fury Road is about cars and awesome action first and uses that as a vehicle (heh) to say some very poignant things about exploitation and power. Barbie is about feminism first, and somehow, unexpectedly, only secondarily a pink comedy. That is what people are pointing out here and it's extremely uncharitable to read it as "Fury Road [and other examples] are insufficiently feminist". And it is also valid to point out that more people will see Barbie than, say, Hidden Figures. I don't know what Hidden Figures is. I watched Barbie because it's current and a lot of people said it's fun but also surprisingly clever. That does not mean that I or other people who pointed that out think Barbie is the first good carrier of a feminist message because it finally bluntly reaches the doofuses. That's not the text of those posts, it's an interpretation of what you think they mean. And that brings us back to the initial statement about text and subtext.
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Aug 2, 2023 07:06
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Pirate Jet posted:These are some of the most gender-essentialist posts I’ve ever read all in service of a supposedly feminist film. If you want another "self-own", here's a fun one: when I first saw Starship Troopers it was on German TV in, dunno, 2005. I saw the intro and immediately hated the movie because I thought it was typical jingoistic American propaganda, because post-9/11, you saw the US go crazy from overseas and just assumed that was what they were about. "At least the action is cool". I didn't find out when the movie actually came out or thought "maybe it's meant to be over the top propaganda...for a reason..." until I started posting here.
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Aug 2, 2023 09:36
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Cojawfee posted:I don't know if it really saves anything, because the Kens are still powerless now. It seems like a lot of people are coming at this from the perspective that it's ok to oppress the Kens because men have power in the real world, where the Kens don't live. But don't worry, one day they might have some power.
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Aug 4, 2023 21:26
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No normal person has ever thought about film roll breadth or whatever 70 mm means, the joke would not have worked because of that you tedious nerds
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Aug 5, 2023 09:49
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Vegetable posted:I do feel the gynecologist joke at the end misses the mark. It’s a joke about how Barbie dolls don’t have genitals, yes. But in what’s already a pretty cis movie the throwaway line reeks of gender essentialism. EDIT: my wife said "proctologist! Everybody has an rear end in a top hat - much like an opinion"
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Aug 12, 2023 09:29
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Another, albeit weaker, approach is to take the fantasy scenario and read it as science fiction. Under this approach, Barbieland is subject to physical laws and we can speculate as to how the mermaid ecosystem works when the water is a solidified mass of petrochemicals, etc. What's the mechanism that allows Barbie to hover? You can do this sort of thing, but it just isn't very interesting.
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I'd never heard Push before but it sounded so incredibly generic that I thought they'd just made up a song with nonsense lyrics and a few guitar strums for the movie
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DicktheCat posted:I'm astounded that you didn't at least hear it in a bar at some point. It was a song I heard everywhere for a bit.
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