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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
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Disco Pope posted:

I spent a lot of the movie a little concerned that it was going to go for the whole flipped patriarchy angle, which, yeah, is damaging for the reasons you quote. I started to appreciate it more when the Ken's started fighting each other and subsequently are encouraged to define themselves outside of their relationships and achievements as it started to play with how the patriarchy harms men too.



It was also smart and funny that when Ken discovers patriarchy his kind of dumb assumption is that it means he has to do literally nothing to get whatever job or status he wants, not that he just has huge advantages. So even other men in the real world are telling him that he can't just stroll around being a loser and expect to run things, even the men who benefit have to have some semblance of qualifications or skillset. So he retreats to Barbieland where he kind of can act out his laziest, most entitled version of patriarchy just by the magical nature of Barbieland manifesting items they think of. It is a funny bit, and also it is a more nuanced point than just "Ken/Men drool"

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
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Bananaquiter posted:

I liked the movie but the snapping the barbies out of being brainwashed with a speech didn't make sense because none of the Barbies in Barbieland could relate to any of that. They had the easy life.

One of the first things the movie establishes is that there is a link between the experience of the girls/women who played with barbies and the feelings of the barbies. So it makes sense that someone laying out something so explicitly, something that their human counterparts have experienced, that it would land with them even if those feelings were never quite enough to mess with them the way it did with the main character. Especially after experiencing the beginning of the Mojo Dojo Casa House era

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