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Stink Billyums posted:I liked guessing whether an episode would take place on wet sand dune planet, rainforest planet, or gravel pit planet Hey now don't forget Sandbox planet
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EvilHawk posted:The Tollans are assholes but they are completely right in not getting involved. SG teams show up and immediately get involved in whichever conflict they find (or inadvertently cause). The season 4 episode 2 episode "The Other Side" really shows how silly this is when they end up nearly giving support to a genocidal group of lunatics. Meanwhile the Tollans, when encountered with anyone they (rightly) judge are technologically inferior, say "no, gently caress you, you morons. Deal with your own poo poo." They don't get involved with anyone's stupid conflicts, and become best buds with the cool hippy race. Until they get wiped out by their own snotty attitude
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If the Tollans had had any sense they would have realised the only thing standing between them and the Goa'uld was SG-1 constantly pissing off the Goa'uld, and they would have taken a policy of "better them not us" and given earth just enough tech to make them more of a pain in the rear end to the Goa'uld. They should have realised that the war they were in was a war of attrition, even if it wasn't explicitly stated. The Goa'uld believe they are gods and want to rule the entire universe. They have incredibly long lifespans, which means without SG-1 it was only a matter of time before they couldn't stand the thought of Tollans being out there and possessing power they don't have, and as an extension to that, only a matter of time until the Goa'uld found an archive of the ancients or a superweapon left behind by them or something else that gave them enough power to wipe out the Tollen and take their technology. Despite the lethargy of the Goa'uld upper class, it was only a matter of time before one of them wasn't just satisfied with the status quo. Even though it was post-Tollen, this is exactly what happened with Anubis. alexandriao fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Aug 24, 2023 |
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Rappaport posted:It is a feel-good show, and we're meant to think that Hammond, of Texas, and SG-1 are good and competent. Kinda, yes. But they also make very clear that the SG teams are lucky that that specific man is in charge, they also take potshots at the rest of the us military/air force/pentagon stuff when they can. Like, in the first episode Jack has to convince the rest of the SGC to not throw a nuke through and be done with it. Also comes to mind the episode where Hammond is replaced and the first thing the guy does almost nukes the SGC.
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Also, SG-1 predicted Trump, down to the mannerisms.
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Yeah NID is pretty clearly them taking potshots at the CIA and it's extra judicial authority. And yes, while the scripts were run past military advisors, IMHO they do a fair job (compared to, say, Trek) under those constraints of questioning the neoliberalism inherent in their mission.
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Aug 27, 2023 01:59
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snergle posted:i started trying to watch this and the pilot is so good for 35mins but some of the episodes are very poo poo immediatly afterwards. looking at the mongol episode and the heart of darkness episode. the others have been decent. so im going to try to stick with it lmao those are some of the only episodes in the show id recommend that people just dont watch on their first run-through lol
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Jack liking the space Nazis was a criticism against Jack and his faith (however weak) in the military, while also being entirely logical from a character perspective. My view of this show is that essentially while the writer's team were bound to have their hands tied, it is one of the few 90s sci fis that effectively criticises a lot of US policy and outright criticises the military. Like — the first two episodes is just Jack arguing with the military hierarchy to not nuke a bunch of civilians, they have multiple episodes where they made drat clear that we are lucky Hammond and Jack are there, otherwise the air force and co would just be destroying planets willy nilly, slaughtering a shitton of folk, and dissecting aliens. Teal'c's adventures with almost being abducted and dissected, the time Hammond steps out and they just outright destroy an entire world and almost the earth too, the NID, Trump analogue guy, etc. They are all direct criticisms of the American political and military structure and IMO a lot of them are shots that contemporary Trek could not take, and they're even more impressive for being done while the scripts were being amended by the Air Force. Unfortunately it does give the show a bit of Trek Admiral disease. So in this case I like to think Jack liking the space fascists, while from a character perspective it was very clearly him going "holy poo poo we might get to take home some weapons to blow up the goa'uld and save Earth" — from a scriptwriting perspective I also feel it is a direct criticism of people like Jack, how easy it is for them to fall into fascism, and how important people like Daniel within our society are for maintaining vigilance.
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redshirt posted:Firstly, I just love all your comments. Thank you!! I try my best  Yeah I think the term i saw in the Trek thread was "Competency Porn" and SG1 fits that niche really well too in a way that a lot of other shows can't. Weirdly I didn't get a competency porn vibe from BGS or The Expanse, I think it has to have a little ham and cheese for it to work right I think theres not many points of it that you can look at as openly, flag barfingly patriotic like a lot of usmil tampered things, except from maybe in a lot of the russia related plots
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snergle posted:also im starting to realize all the "historically non white" races gods are gould but the white supremists gods arent. im sure its unintentional but like mix it up. like have a gould be pretending to be jesus and some cool hindu poo poo be another asgardian race for all i know t hats gonna happen soon though. im honestly suprised with how many iron age civilizations they havent run into a dark age europe one. So theres a stack overflow answer but it has spoilers (https://scifi.stackexchange.com/a/46829) so ill copy out the parts and despoiler them for you so you get a choice In the full ten seasons of SG-1 the following religions and mythos are represented:
This SE answer misses the obvious Asgardian ones but ehhh Also worth noting that the Romans and Greeks plagiarized their gods from a shitload of places and then you have the silk road doing the same. Cool fact is that one of the reasons statues of Buddah exist in the first place is because contemporary Buddhists saw statues of Apollo everywhere, imported via the silk road, and saw it led to success and proliferation of the religion so they were like "well fine we can do this too!!!! " alexandriao fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sentient Data posted:Voyager crossed with new BSG. I wonder if a pitch with that kind of content existed at the time and what we got was the watered down result. Enterprise is great for this tbh
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Part of the show's fun I feel is that humanity does actually make a sizable dent in the Goa'uld pretty early on. Like maybe halfway through the show's run they not only have permanently altered the power dynamics in the universe but have exterminated hundreds, thousands of goa'uld if we count larvae too. I can absolutely understand why the Asgard were so drat impressed with them. Like this tiny little species who dont even have energy weapons, their weapons fling metal at the enemy, who haven't even got to interplanetary colonisation yet, is suddenly keeping the impossibly overwhelming goa'uld force on the backfoot after 2000+ years of goa'uld domination, all within a handful of months - years. wowee. They barely have a space program but somehow they managed to blow up Apophis' invasion force?? lmao imagine reading that internal communique — it's probably the first time asgard internal security has experienced a leak in millenia hahaha I mean sure part of that speaks to insurgency tactics but still! alexandriao fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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I really like this, but it's an XCOM/Xenonauts styled thing. Same premise but more focus on the basebuilding and deployment kdrudy posted:Nope, these two I absolutely love John Billingsly in this and it's contemporaneous with his Trek appearance, too, which just makes the whole character a cherry on the top lol Also I really loved him in Man From Earth
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itry posted:Sometimes burying works like that, but sometimes Teal'c just comes in with a gas mask and a pickaxe. Ok so: A gate can only be connected to if the DHD is in range. The earth gate was buried away from the DHD. Actually I suspect the DHD was connected to the second earth gate, and there wasn't another DHD.. The second earth gate was notably right next to it's DHD, but they just couldn't quite get at it. A buried gate can connect if the DHD is close, and the woosh happens and carves through any surface there. However, if the material is soil or sand then that's probably going to fill up depending on how the material is packed
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redshirt posted:It's pretty funny that not only do Star Trek and Star Wars exist in the SG-1 universe, but so does MacGuyver, which opens up a whole bunch of questions. I have heard of a place where humans do battle in a ring of jello
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Armacham posted:I'm watching the documentary episode right now. There are definitely some good lines. 
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I figured that the iris opening sends a signal back that its safe to proceed
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EvilHawk posted:the Tok'ra have Jack/Daniel someone should get them better whiskey
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pixaal posted:I like the time Jack yells I've done it again after using the fron grabbing machine. That entire arc is hilarious and I love hologram o'neil playing with the lights. Absolutely one of my favourite moments in the show https://youtu.be/8AS6z76vNBI https://youtu.be/OAgf4KfmotU alexandriao fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 27, 2023 |
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McKay grows on you and by the end of SGA McKay was one of my favourite characters. I really love Hewlett and it's a shame he hasn't got more roles
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I felt the Ori were kind of Meh, but then I also didn't feel that they needed a new big bad. The big bad could just be social and technical problems related to humanity establishing itself as an interstellar empire
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Also it broke my heart in the last episode when the knowledge of the asgard was lost 
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:The problem with the Ori is that they are just the Goa'uld without any of the things that make the Goa'uld interesting or fun. They are just "sufficiently advanced aliens pretending to be gods." The Goa'uld were fun because they were all eccentric assholes high on their own farts who committed hard to the bit and/or came to genuinely buy into it. The Ori were not really seen and their servants were boring true believers. Yeah this exactly!! 
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redshirt posted:Don't they standardize on SGC time? Like for instance in that episode when Jack and Teal'c are on that runaway 301. Zulu means UTC, as in 2023-11-04T11:18Z as a short form for 2023-11-04T11:18+0000
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FFT posted:That's why you standardize to the planet, it makes no sense to "standardize" to a different planet and then also have more hours in a day. Actually it is. On DS9 they explicitly mention bajor has a 26 hour rotation and they standardise to a 26:00 clock. Odo explicitly says "at 25 hundred hours last night" lmao https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/280522/in-ds9-is-the-25th-hour-ever-explicitly-mentioned alexandriao fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Nov 5, 2023 |
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Yeah I think the key is that he is seeing the hero worship of the Tau'ri as liberators and having flashbacks to the Goa'uld worship and worrying that they may have won their freedom, only for EarthGov to slip in and bind them once again. The thing is, it's not a completely unwarranted suspicion. By the late seasons we have a handle on the Tau'ri as not wanting to bother governing a foreign interstellar empire, but like, at the same time, historically...
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Also worth noting that republics were an ancient idea but it took about 800 years between conception and the first successful and stable republic. The Goa'uld are pre-republic, and the Jaffar have only ever seen Feifdoms. So like obviously they are going to hold Qualms about some aliens coming up and being like "oh Interstellar Feudelism is so gauche!! Here try our Democracy(tm). Oh also we dont have Any hidden motives here AT ALL, I PROMISE" It's like some Aliens coming to Earth and going "Oh try Communism!!! Never mind that every example you've seen has immediately fallen into totalitarianism and hero worship, neoliberalism is just so gaudy!! Also we don't have any hidden agendas here we just want what's best :')". Like... i don't think anyone would believe them lmao alexandriao fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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I actually hate the Lucian alliance just for a) how it comes out of nowhere (there's no good establishing episode for them??) and b) a lot of other things my brain is blanking on aa
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FFT posted:Nah, Proving Ground (S5E13) is the second and final appearance of Jennifer Hailey after Prodigy (S4E19)  Theres also the Foothold episode e: oh that IS the foothold episode huh!!!! goddamn alexandriao fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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ChairmanMauzer posted:The Stargate / Star Trek crossover we've all been waiting for: (quantum leap intro music plays)
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McSpanky posted:Felcher shows up one more time but it's not quite as bad as the first time. I agree though, Felcher is such a broad stereotype it's difficult to believe he wasn't shitcanned/sent to Russia years ago. yeah he really felches it up.
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we need a memeit.so for sg-1
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redshirt posted:What's a memeit.so? Frinkiac but for TNG https://memeit.so/ The current star trek thread is putting together dril quotes and trek and i assume that's where the majority of screencaps are coming from alexandriao fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 22, 2023 |
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the history channel drinking game: every time they get something kinda (handwaves) right but then jump in the wrong direction, take a drink
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redshirt posted:Yeah, an odd ending, but it's the Unas's idea to work the mines. I just watched it the other day, the reaction of the various SG people is like..... well, we didn't expect that, but if you want to..... This, it's not slavery. The Unas know about the Goa'uld, and they want to help in the war. Maybe in the long run they'd join up as soldiers but our cultures are too far apart and we barely understand their language and culture anyway, but they still want to do what they can to assist, soooo
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Yeah I skipped both Emancipation and the Broca Divide on a watch with my one partner because like those are poo poo episodes that are barely redeemable. The thing that gnaws at me about Emancipation is they only do non-Ancient Egyptian culture a handful of times until the Ori show up, and on top of that it's really, really rare to see Mongol (Mongolian? I'm not sure of the proper term ahh) culture represented in this kind of show. All of the ingredients for a really good, quiet episode of SG-1 are there, and it bugs the hell out of me. The Broca Divide had an interesting concept and at least one good part but the rest is pure trash.
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redshirt posted:Call up the Tok'ra, get a stasis chamber ready, everyone is on standby. SOS means Save Our Siler
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