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L. Ron DeSantis posted:Is Miami-Dade really that progressive anymore? DeSantis won it last year, and it seems like a lot of the Latino population there is pretty conservative, at least with regards to anything the right paints as socialism. (Though it is funny how many people love Obamacare now.) This is largely based on news reports as I've never lived in that area. South Florida went pretty far into the Qanon adjacent or flat out mainline Qanon conspiracy stuff in the last election. While the Puerto Rican demographic seems to be grounded and more realistic, which makes sense for a number of reasons, the Cuban and South American demo, themselves already conservative leaning and wealthy, bought into a lot of that stuff. Spanish language radio was pushing a lot of hardcore conspiracy stuff as fact and it doesn't help that a lot of these demographics already want Operation Condor 2.0, not the Jackie Chan movie, due to the instability in Venezuela and the constant fear that every new left leaning president in South America is going to be the reincarnation of Fidel. It cannot be understated the level of delusion that exists within the Cuban émigré community is something that will never die and is most definitely getting worse as the GOP tries to grasp something as their demographic hold on FL slides. Since terrorism never panned out for the far right elements of the community, they're just doing their best to copy the Israel lobby but instead of having politicians pledge eternal support to the state of Israel, they're making politicians end all speeches with Cuba delenda est. This is all the while ignoring the anti-Hispanic bent of the GOP by telling themselves they're "the good ones." The good news is that even with the apathy and influx of affluent assholes, GOP control could be flipped overnight and they know it. It's one of the big reasons they go so hard down here despite it being an effectively one party state. The problem is the Democrats have written off Florida because they're thinking they're playing 5D chess or something with purposely losing elections.
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Shrecknet posted:What happens when (if?) Cuba's relations with America are normalized and you don't have automatic one-dry-toe citizenship on arrival in Florida and it becomes impossible to add more virulently anti-communist Cuban expats to the voter rolls? The Alpha 66'ers aren't getting any younger. Most Cubans who came during the Special Period or after tend not to be virulently anti-communist. They're generally not happy with the regime for obvious reasons but send remittances back and see it as something that's not going away. The children of émigrés from the periods before that tend to be conservative but it's skewing more left as they stop believing that there's a plantation waiting for them in Cuba the second the communists lose power. Good news, wealthy Venezuelans and Brazilians are doing their best to fill the empty spots. Miami has always been the landing spot for former Central South American dictators and death squad leaders. Miami itself was pretty much built on CIA money and money going to and from School of the Americas projects. It's always going to have a hard right element in it that you don't see unless you speak Spanish or Haitian Creole. Spanish media mainstreaming Qanon stuff also isn't helping so while you won't get people going ultra MAGA or whatever, they will definitely think twice about voting for the "pedophile elite." It's making the already right wing go crazy and the moderates to left leaning people quiet up because there's a history of politically motivated killings in Miami that for some reason go unsolved by the Miami PD. 
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